WASHING MACHINE-which brand is good?

[washer_specialist]

Mitzi,

WFB 1061
6.5KG 1000 RPM
Made in China

I would rate this machine as the most worthy machine amongst the CHINA made ones.

I am not a keen supporter of CHINA made machine as i personally feel that the quality is definitely overated.

An advise on this machine for anY interested buyer would be to take a close look on the opening and the closing of the door. You can see such a big gap that you will wonder whether is it close or not. Another thing to note is that the drum size is even smaller or as small as those of the 5.5kg/6kg machines produced by Electrolux,Bosch or even Brandt machine.

But pricing wise is SUPERB!!!

 

[hks_swift]

Hi TWT and Ridz, y dun u two buy and test it b4 u two gave comment??? It's better to convince the people here...

 

[ridhwan82]

anyhow for your information i do own a miele washer and also a miele dryer myself of course i know its good and i have used thomson for more than 18 years and i know its also go. But compare the two miele is definitely much better albeit the higher price tag.

So what other convincing do you i need to prove? perhaps a home demonstration?>

 

[hks_swift]

maybe is good for the people here to see the real thing... rather then they juz hear advise here...

 

[ridhwan82]

Well we all are just providing some insights arent we? Just to inform and also share views opinions as well as reviews on machines.

Anywhow,
People can just drop by miele showroom and they will be glad to give you a full product demonstration for all the range of products from washer to dryer to hobs, hood, ovens, coffee machine to even the press machine and vacuums.

Its located at windsland house the building just beside where the kiliney post office is. just up further towards the old cockpit hotel.

You may look for Taferine she is permanent there and i have known her for years. Though its a sales floor where you may place an order but they are more keen to demonstrate and attend to your queries than in the business to just do cold hard selling.

cheers

 

[bb_queen]

Ridz

I do believe Miele is good! Just that it is out of budget, considering we have so many other things to buy for a new house. I believe the others wun have doubts of yours and TWT's advice.

 

[ridhwan82]

thanks BB queen for your assurance.

Yeah i know miele might not be able to be within reach especially during initial stages. its really a bomb seriously.

Hence striking a balance between quality vs price would be best bet.

I would think that your decision in choosing electrolux or brandt is a wise one. Bosch can be considered too but when compared to specs with specs.. electrolux and brandt stands out more for the price .. so yeah. good luck yeah.

what are the other white domestic goods you are looking out for?

 

[skywolf]

Hihi,

For Electrolux models, are there top loaders? So far when gg around for other stuff, only saw front loaders...

 

[ridhwan82]

For electrolux they used to have but it was discontinued.

For top loaders the champion in top loading CONTINENTAL machine would be thomson. Or brandt.

But do take note that top loaders are typically 5kg only and max is 6kg only.

 

[bb_queen]

Ridz

We have sort of decided on the Brandt.

Ours is a new house, so we need everything from hob, hood, fridge, WM, heater, Vaccum cleaner, iron to aircon etc...

 

[froggie]

I saw this model in Miele web-site: W 3574 WPS AllerWash... Is that good? worth the money?

 

[froggie]

Any comments EWT1090 from electrlux? Are all electolux made in Thailand?

I am looking for a 8kg VM. Any recommendations?

 

[ridhwan82]

BB Queen,

I see well what have you gotten and other do you need help or questions, etc for hob? hood? vacuum? air con?

brandt.. is value for money thats for sure. anyway which model is it that you have finalised?

cheers

 

[ridhwan82]

hi Froggie,

Well the Aller Wash is one of the range available under Miele washer that is targeted at allergy sufferers.

Its a 6kg washer with hygiene wash features. Some key difference between its normal ranges would be
1) The hygiene Plus wash at 60 or 95. During this cycle there during the main wash cycle, the machine heats up and maintains the temperatures for a longer holding period to really eliminate dust, bacteria or what have you that may cause allergy.

2) it also has a pillow hygiene wash programme same at 60 and 95 degrees. This programme has an initial saturation run where it will run water into the drum for water to wet the pillow then it will perform a short spin to properly saturate the pillow and then only will it fill from the detergent compartment and being the main wash

3) the amount of water for the rinse cycles o the hygiene and pillow is higher. and also it has a minimum of 3 rinses and you can add a rinse plus option to increase the number of rinse to 4. you can also customise the number of rinses to be a standard 4 so that when you press the rinse plus option it will add a 5th rinse to be really really sure that all detergent, etc will be removed before end of wash programme.

4) there is also a first wash programme. this is useful for allergy sufferers as this is a sorta rinse. when you first buy clothes you put inside the machine and then start the first wash programme to rinse out the chemicals, dirt out etc before you dry and then wear for the first time.

other than these the rest of the features are the same, honeycomb drum, water control plus system, cast iron support, the assembly is assembled around the drum so that the drum wont ever knock around and also its maximum spin speed is 1600rpm.

but i think the price tag is before the gst increase and according to my catalogue is 4880 so now it should be around 5k plus or sorts. not too sure if they still bring in that machine in for singapore though.

If you are asking me if its worth it.. hard to answer you lei. its preference. to me miele is a very good machine. and this is definitely one for a serious allergy sufferer they wull definitely appreciate the featyres.

 

[froggie]

Hi Ridz;
Thanks for the very informative write-up on Allerwash. I have a daughter who is allergic to dust mites. Thus, looking for one WM with temperature control. Then came across Allerwash but not aware of the high price until i saw your posting.

I am torn between Electrolux (EWT1090- 8kg) vs Miele (W562- 6kg). Main consideration is there are 5 persons in my household and would wish to wash my clothes every other 2 days. By the way, when the specs says the max load is 6kg, does it mean that I can load the WM with 6 kg of dry clothes only?

Any advice?

Any idea why the max load for Miele WM is only 6.5kg only?

 

[mitzi]

Went shopping, with intention to buy Samsung washing machine, ended up buying an Electrolux model...Guess I'm happy with my purchase hee....

 

[ridhwan82]

hi froggie,

well now it really a choice you would have to make i guess. Cos personally i feel (no offence okie just an honest opinion)

If given a choice i would choose a 6kg soild washer over an 8kg washer. i dun mind washing a little bit more often. unless i have a lot of single big items to wash like curtains that requires bigger drum then i would go for 8kg. Though i still think that the 6kg can manage for me.

Like for my household though i have 7 people, i am only using a 5kg miele washer. and it works really well though cos of my house i think its a like a clothes factory with the amount of laundry i have to do everyday. typically 3 x 5kg load every day whole year round. But i put it into dryer after washing.. iu havent been using the clothes line or poles for like years already. but i think its fine.

and machine like miele so far no break down etc. its super realible. i chose miele over others is precisely of its realiabilty and durability. cos imagine machine keep on dying i can i cannoit take it with just one day without washing. so having a reliabily and durable machine is PRIORIty for me as with Quality washing also.

well for miele yes max load is 6kg means dry weight of items that can be loaded is 6kg dry weight yeah.

depends on your need seriosuly. cos 6kg and 8kg drum difference not that huge lah.. so your choice yeah?

 

[ridhwan82]

OH yeah just called up miele and also electrolux

Electrolux 8 kg washer their volume of drum size is about 63litres and miele washer 6kg drum volume is about 55 litres. difference is about 8 litres.. difference not that much.

cheers

 

[bb_queen]

I am getting 08771A.

I have decided on Fridge, hob, hood and heater. (Phew) If you have any advise for TV, VC and iron, that will be very helpful as well. You can PM me so that we will not "mess" up this thread with other electrical items.

Thanks.

 

[steventay]

how is EF n ELBA washing machine...

ELBA - EWF 1071 7kg $590
EF - WF 7100 7kg $669
EF - WF 7121 7kg $769
EF - WF 7141 7kg $988

EF http://www.ef.com.sg
WF 7100 $669
- 7 kg Load
- 1000 Rpm Spin Speed
- Electronic Control Type
- Big Door with Button: 180° Opening
- Quick Wash
- Anti Creasing
- Spin Speed Selection
- Rinse Hold Function
- Child Lock Option
- Energy & Washing Rating: A
- Energy Consumption: 119
- Water Consumption: 45
- White
- W600 X H850 X D590 mm

ELBA http://www.elba.com.sg
EWF 1071 $590


- Loading Capacity: 7 kg
- Up to 1000 rpm Spin speed
- Electronic With Led
- Big Door 30cm Porthole : 180o Opening Angle
- Quick Wash
- Anti-Creasing
- Spin Speed Selection
- Rinse Hold Function
- Child Lock Option
- Energy & Washing Rating : AA
- Colour : White
- Dimension : W600 x D590 x H850mm

 

[washer_specialist]

Hi,

EF and Elba are 'brother' and sister company.

WF 7100
This particular model is almost similar to the one by Brandt(wfh10771). Going by specs, this is defintely worth buying.

One point to note that the catch to the opening is a 'plastic' catch. If you have actually look at the machine itself, it is not as solid at those made by Brandt and Electrolux.

As for the remaining models, the difference are the rpm.

Branding wise, it leaves much to be desired but who knows??

As for Elba,8 yrs ago, their machines were amongst the best for white goods. As for now,i rest my case. Dont wish to type any more. I can only say i would rather purchase a Samsung front loader.

ps: This is just my personal opinion. Pls dont 'bomb' me.

 

[ridhwan82]

hi twt,

yes i agree with you in fact i second you on the fat that its not so good these days as compared to last time at least its in one of the desired league of machines.

and also for purchase id rather get a samsung vs the ef and elba wahaha..

anyway its personal remark also... and its just voicing opinions.

take it or leave it hehehe.. cheersR

 

[steventay]

is samsung washing machine good...
WF-B1061 6.5kg cost $559

my parent purchase samsung top load 3yrs ago.. stil using now... but always torn clothes n curtain...

so i wnt to get front load....

 

[washer_specialist]

Steven,

Samsung washing machine WFB1061 is confirm good. Just imagine 6.5kg with specs of 1000 rpm and many other fuctions. Where to find such specs. Imagine it comparing against Electrolux ( EWF 1084 Selling at $999/-), Bosch WAE 20260 ( $1199/-) or Brandt ( $1289/-).

But pls remember your reasons for purchasing a front loader. You expect it to be efficient and efficient is really defined in a broad range. At least the Samsung front loader wont tear or damage the clothes can also be define as efficient.

However, if you are mentioning about efficient, then i can tell you safely that in terms of water and energy, it is a far cry. Not only that, the make from the outer body to the inner drum definitely leave much to be desired.

Worst of all, CHINA make. I think i really have a big problem with CHINA make front loaders.

My conclusion, stick to the top loaders if you intend to purchase a CHINA make front loader.

I hope i am not plucking any feathers here.

CHEERS!!!

 

[ridhwan82]

well for samsung front loaders. if you compare it to front loaders.. definitely we are compareing 2 different types of washing and that the front loading one with its vertical washing as you may call it.. is far superior hence if you say samsung top load vs samsung front load its definitely better.

However if you were to ask me to compare front load electrolux vs front load samsung.. then that paints a different story. yeah

 

[ridhwan82]

oh yeah one more things.. when you are looking at samsung washers.. do take note of their ratings.

they are not using the EU rating for 6.5kg hence their drum size if you compare 6.5kg rated samsung you are looking at the equivalent size of say a 5kg washer of european counterparts which measures underguidelines of the EU ratings.

so their 8kg it similar to a 6.5kg washer of european okie?

 

[steventay]

so which front load are cheap and good..

 

[washer_specialist]

A little Update on Elba's latest washer

EWF 1071
Made in Turkey ( SAME FACTORY producing the Brandt washer)
Door handle is almost similar to that of Brandt WFE 676.
Metal Catch
AA rating

First feel of the machine is that it is definitely not as solid as compared to those of Brandt's 7kG MACHINE.

It does not contain Brandt's Opti 45 mins wash. Nor does it have the A+ rating.
It only comes with a 40 mins wash which is almost similar to a half load function. equipped with LED display.

The door after closing was 'horrible'. To my surprise, not as tight if you were to use your finger to press against the door.

Finally i understood the lower cost of the machine. For this i rate it higher then Samsung's WFB1061( but i will still choose Samsung machine) ( a bit contradicting) but still lower then Brandt's WFH 10771A.

Just my 2 cents worth after 'feeling' the machine.

 

[steventay]

Hi,

if i decide to get Top Load around 6kg which is good..

 

[ridhwan82]

top load meaning??

Top load Asian syle washer or top load continental style washer?

 

[steventay]

top load washing machine....

what is the different "Top load Asian syle washer or top load continental style washer"?

 

[ridhwan82]

refer to my previous post

http://www.singaporebrides.com/forumboard/messages/409/232321.html#POST2105831

 

[steventay]

so for Top load Asian syle washer, what brand is good?

for top load continental style washer, does it has soak?

 

[ridhwan82]

for asian top load,

well typically one of the better ones would be fisher and paykel. GWC 12

7.5kg washer with 1000rpm.

Not too bad.

Anyway for the top load continental washer, it usually is called a pre wash. what it does is that it will fill with water and detergent and then agitate the drum ocassionally for say 12-20 mins then pumps out the water and then it will fill with water and detergent and this is where they will start the main wash then will contniue with the rinses etc.

 

[steventay]

so is Samsung Top load Asian syle washer good?

 

[ridhwan82]

i wouldnt say that they are not that good.. but they are other better ones..

in terms of asian style washing im not all oo familiar but by the wash quality that ive seen at my frens and a few of my cousin's place i would think that fisher paykel is better and also its quite heavy duty.. so far my aunts place around i think 7 years already so far so good no problem whatsoever.

but of course not warm or hot wash. and the spin speed of 1000rpm is good especially if you are using dryer.

and cos of the agitator in the centre, the quilt that my fren wash is also clean unlike normal drums where in the centre there is not agitator and it just merely tangles and not that clean...

one complain i think would be that it lacks on the number of rinses that you can add into the wash.

 

[steventay]

so for top load some brand in the center have a pole.... is it good?

what u mean "the spin speed of 1000rpm is good especially if you are using dryer."?

 

[ridhwan82]

i would say the only brand that has the center agitator is fisher paykel.

Its cleaner i must say and so far according to my aunt and friend the clothes has never tsngled so i would reckon that its good.

Well if the spin speed is 1000rpm, at the end of the final spin, the residual moisture left on the clothes would be much lesser than clothes that are spun at say 800rpm.

And in that instance of the dryer, means that the dryer needs to work less to dry the clothes and that means it will spend lesser time and electricity.

Cos dryer uses quite a bit of electricity, say around 2.2kwh that. so if the clothes are spun at 1000rpm for exmaple it might only need 60mins to try so the electricity usage is only 2.2kwh

but if the clothes are spun at lower speed say 800rpm, means that its has more moisture and probably would take the dryer around 1.5 hour to dry the clothes hence now the totla electricity usage is 3.3kw that is more expensive.

So if you are going to buy a dryer, i must say that the higher the rpm on the washer the better as the clothes will be less wet. the standard for today is min 1000rpm. anything less would be yesteryear standard and thus not advisable.

some machines like miele have spin speeds of up to 1800rpm, in which case the clothes that come out form such machine would require even shorter time in the dryer.

 

[steventay]

anyone use fisher paykel top load...

please comments....

 

[rong]

Went to a neighbourhood shop and the person recommended Fisher and Paykel's MWC12. I've always been eyeing for front load washers. Is it a good choice to get this MWC12? I'm looking for energy and water saving features especially. For the moment only my husband and my clothings and occasionally a queen size bedsheet set without quilt.

 

[steventay]

Fisher and Paykel's MWC12 i think dont have soak feature...

http://www.fisherpaykel.com.sg/laundry/

 

[rong]

Ya..it's the lower end of the range. I'm fine with the features as I'm not a "heavy-washer". Just that I don't know whether it's good generally. I always hear people talk about electrolux, Brandt etc.

 

[washer_specialist]

Meirong,

Its rather unfair to compare a FRONT LOADER with a TOP loader.

Other then pricing which will be cheaper for a TOP LOADER, everything points to a FRONT loader for a 'complete' wash.

 

[steventay]

so front load clean better or top load?

Thomon n Brandt Top Load is not cheap....

 

[ridhwan82]

Anyway please do not get yourself confused.

You are talking about 2 seperate types of machines.

Main category is CONTINENTAL washer, and ASIAN Style washing.

Asian style washing is those where the drum turn horizontally or round and round. THEY ARE available in TOPLOADING. E.g. Toshiba, sanyo, sharp, etc

Continental style washing is those where the drum is vertical and it tumbles clothes up and down.

NOW CONTINENTAL Washer can come in 2 configurations the front load which is the typical ones or it could also come in top loading like in the likes of THOMSON (champion in this arena) or brandt, bosch and also used to be electrolux.

so when you are looking at Top loader which one are you referriong to? Top loader with asian style washing or top loader with continental style washing.

as i might say the difference please go to my previous post

http://www.singaporebrides.com/forumboard/messages/409/232321.html#POST2105831

thomson and brandt are continental style washers but top loading. hence its continental pricing.

and if ytou are asking cleaner i would go for continental style washing is cleaner and more gentler on clothes.

 

[rong]

twt,
I was told by the salesman that F&P MWC12 has a smart motor that's better than those front load one such that when it spins at high rpm, it'll not hurt the machine so it'll last longer than the front load washers. Is it true?

ridz,
thank you for your explanation. I now understand better. I'm wondering how a top loader can have continental wash.

So is the F&P MWC12 worth to buy?

 

[washer_specialist]

Meirong,

For Motor's durability,i really have no concrete idea which is better. However, if a so call 'smart' motor is more durable, then its always up to individual to believe.

Let me just share with you my knowledge of several reasons why machines break down.

If the lid of the front loader is being opened up for viewing, we will understand that the motor/drum of the front loaders are being protected either by rubber or a big piece of concrete. This is to prevent it from trembling or 'dancing' when the machine is in motion.

All the movement will subsequently result in wear and tear and this will most likely determine the machine's durablity. Of course the supporting cast to the machine is also important as well. Underloading or overloading will also cause machine to break down.

Of course there are other reasons as well but these reasons which i have mentioned are definitely the main causes of the machine breaking down.

I don't quite buy the salesperson explanation on high rpm hurting the machine.

 

[ridhwan82]

yeah i dun quite get the salesperson explanation on high rpm. Miele machines are running at 1800rpm and that its reliability and durability is still maintained. hmmm

 

[rong]

twt and ridz,

thanks! I think front loaders are worth investing. The salesperson said if want to go for front loaders, get whirlpool....I've never considered this brand before. His recommendations are so different from the forum. Haha...

 

[washer_specialist]

Meirong,

Pls note that we are not sales person. What we are informing the forum is definitely based on our experiences or our knowledge of the particular machines.