Devastated....Failed Marriage

simpleman

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Yeah, if you are rich that is a different matter. Or your ex-wife is after your money. Otherwise, for most people, divorce is definitely cheaper. If you are rich, marriage expenses are really just peanuts.. not worth mentioning.

tiger woods - more of his infidelity that hurt him more than just his divorce. It affected his mental and physical as well. So much so that he can't really play what he is capable of.
 


yeah luckily my current marriage did not cost a bomb compared to my previous marriage.... this time i might spend a small bomb on filing but still feel it is such a waste of my youth for the past 6 years yet to face this betrayal. this time i decide to make a clean break but the husband wont agree n instead ask for more time, say 6 months which i felt too long for me to waste some more. I wanted a clean break after considering for past month upon discovering his affair.

He claimed he need tome to reconsider whether he wants end with the other woman seriously. Sigh he dun seem to get my point clearly. I rather end this marriage asap before he can carry on with his affair with the married other woman if he still thinks the married other woman is his "wonderful soulmate".
 
And the other reason is i have a similar problem that sgbabydoll used to face in her previous one if she n few readers knew abt my previous postings here long ago.

I am very mentally exhausted to help him alot in the past few years and finally decide i have enough of his lies.
 

simpleman

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You are just dragging. For a relationship to continue, both need to agree. For it to break, one party is enough.

How about you insisting that he break off with the girl first before staying together. You are not dealing with the problem. 6 months later still back to square one.

Tell him he cannot insist. If he insist then you can just walk. But if you are willing to wait 6 months - that is your call as well. If you are not willing you have to take action and not just passive acceptance.
 
the problem is he insists on staying together n still in contact with the married other woman..... he claimed n insisted that he need time to think thru what he wants.

Sigh i decided to file for divorce based on unreasonable ground after next april if he still dragging on.. I do not want my son to be confused by his father's acts.
 

sgbabydoll

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"And the other reason is i have a similar problem that sgbabydoll used to face in her previous one if she n few readers knew abt my previous postings here long ago."

Blur, what you mean here?
 

simpleman

Active Member
blur, You are just being nice to him.. and he is taking advantage of it.

There is no such thing as staying together and still in contact with the other woman. It is mutually exclusive.. A marriage in SG is exclusive. Can't allow for 3rd party. If you allow for him to still have relationship with the woman - you are telling him it is ok. If it is 6 months, why not longer and forever. A day also cannot. You can give him a week to resolve - that is the most i will give. Either he comes back together with the family or the family is going to split - don't give him choices. If you are willing to wait till april then you have to bear the consequences. Come april, the chances are things will remain the same - you have to be prepared for this.

Everyone in affair is like that.. men or women, young or old, 30s or 20s or 40s.. it is not just your hb. Everyone wants to have best of both world.. the best is spouse is blind to it..

Once the affair is exposed, they have to make a choice... and they may not have thought about it. That is all.
 

simpleman

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If you are happy in your 6 years of marriage then it is not a waste of time. If you are not happy at all, then you are really wasting time.. but who to blame? You did not resolve it when you are unhappy. If you are unhappy with a situation and did nothing, you are responsible for it. Don't try to shift the blame.

Like now if you agree with the 6 months, don't blame him 6 months later for wasting your 6 months. He can insist but you can still do what you want to do. If you agree with him, you are responsible for it.. and don't regret 6 months later.
 
SM, exactly i had moved on past the grief stage but right now, he keeps on finding out things abt the married other woman from me.. I see him being too obessed with her since i knew her n was my friend for years. sigh very difficult road ahead now.

for now i see at night he did come home early or usual 9pm or later and i dun keep track of his sms log.

He got my firm answer but he is not ready to make his decision yet n ask for time repeatedly.
 
Were happy for the first 4 years but somehow he changed n drifted further n further from me after he got into serious trouble. He started his affair last year.
 

simpleman

Active Member
You still don't get it, do you?

It is not your answer. But your decision. If you decide to file, file it. Don't wait. If you decide to wait 6 months, meaning you are accepting his indiscretion - so be it. It is still your decision and not HIS DECISION. His decision is immaterial. Your decision is important. You can choose to walk and to file. If you choose otherwise, don't shift the blame later on.
 

simpleman

Active Member
So you see.. you wasted 2 years. And you tolerated his affair for a year? You made the decision to tolerate.. so it is still your decision to be unhappy for the last year or so.

Be very clear about this. The sooner you can get hold of yourself, the sooner you can be happy.
 

oneder

New Member
Blur, if a person has an affair because he doesn't know what he wants, seeking for thrills, looking for emotion support or whatever reasons or excuse he might want to give himself. I wouldn't be sure whether he wants to make it a long term relationship.

But if he is unsure about who to choose even AFTER the affair is being expose, i really think you should forget about it. Any person who still have a second thought in holding on to the affair doesn't deserve a 2nd chance. And if the impact on being exposed isn't great enough for him to give up the affair, most probably he never will.
 
Totally agree with Lee... Oh people, currently filing my separation papers. That's all about what it is for me. When things are better will share more.

Cheers!
 

_bb

New Member
blur, leave ur hubby! every second counts. and i dun fathom why ur friend is so heartless to be the 3rd party.

doubt she is a true friend. true friend doesnt lay her finger on her buddy's husband.
 
BB_ yeah now i am searching for the cheaper div rate . o_O

any recommendation n pm me if have or anyone can lead me in filing paperwork on own with the family court?

After what happened, i no longer see her as my friend now but still on my friend list in facebook.
 

simpleman

Active Member
We don't have to debate about whether it is true friend or not.. really immaterial. When it comes to affairs of the heart, what is there to say heartless or whether our friends betrayed us?

If we don't feel comfortable being friends - just don't be one. Friends list in Facebook can be removed. MSN can be removed. Phone contact can be removed. We can also stop thinking and talking about this friend.
 

_bb

New Member
blur, sorry.. i have no contacts about filing paperwork..

tc okay? be strong!
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I feel like utter failure and can never forgive myself... I hate myself for alot of things and since my last post, more things devastated my life apart from this....

I will never forgive myself for the rest of my useless life.... I succumb to failure regardless of whatever pride is left inside me...

People, don't take anything, life, work and love ones for granted.... Never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
how can someone working as a business development manager at a bank, be useless ?
unless you are still a career driven fellow when you're married ?
remember the fault of this failed marriage is not entirely yours.
is all too easy to blame yourself in this mess.
 

darine_gal

New Member
this phrase is on everyone's list.. let go... move on.. but how exactly does it work... i wanna do it... but the pain keeps haunting me... i dunno what to do or what to think.... i cannot think of him... yet he creeps into my thots all the time.... can anyone tell me what to do....
 

cococherry

New Member
one day u will get tired of it & realize its better to spend your time doing meaningful tasks than wasting it on thinking about him.
 

darine_gal

New Member
when is that one day chocolatte... i'm so scared before that day comes, i would have collapsed...
i didn't want the divorce really... denial i guess.. no matter how terible a person he seems to be...
 

scopefun

New Member
Darine_Gal,

Divorce is only by laws... if you are really fated to be together, you can marry again. ^.^

Why collapse?
 

darine_gal

New Member
i wanna be strong and positive for my beloved family who is so worried... there should be no reason why this person should hit me down the way he did right?
 

_bb

New Member
darine, u are still thinking of him dearly despite of his awful acts is becuz u love him truly.
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scopefun

New Member
Darine,

You don't sound positive and strong hor...

You want is you want...

It takes alot of maturity to be strong, and a lot of reasons to be positive. Right?
 

cococherry

New Member
Darine,

What happen to your marriage? How bad can divorce and being alone be? it's only back to square one and u can always start all over again.
 

darine_gal

New Member
Thanks all.... Anyone knows if there is a support group that I engage in? I really wanna get out but I fear being alone....
 

scopefun

New Member
I have gotten through sh|ts alone for too many times... Learn to be alone will make you extremely strong in time to come...

But if you really need pampering, you can join me for a walk. LOL~

Actually, you can sign up a class at CC, you can join many activites paying some money, make friends, go karaoke also can.

But beware of internet creeps... and predators.

No matter how touch, if it doesn't kill you... it makes you stronger.
 

darine_gal

New Member
It was heaped on me.... He came back from a biz trip and initiated it.... So sudden... And I just lost a baby.... When I'm still grieving over the lost of my baby.... And now this....

My pain is felt more so coz memories of thE times we spent together keeps hounding me.... Why am I the one to suffer the pain and left behind....
 

scopefun

New Member
Darine Gal,

Simply...

You chose.

Why can't you women choose someone who suits you seriously rather than to end up complicating things for yourselves?

I don't understand.

But what happened happened, look on the bright side, at least you now know the man, you can leave in peace. At least he's not entertaining you on and on and on...

Don't need to collapse... Making a mistake is only part and parcel of life. Find that man (the One) who suits you, and build a future with him.
 

darine_gal

New Member
scope guy.. tell me how does the thot process goes for a guy? doesn't the fond memories comes back? how can one just archive the past so easily? what happens when something, somewhere or some sights reminds u of the other person? how do a guy take it? what is his thot process?

chocolate... he came back from a biz trip and tells me his heart is no longer with me...
 

cococherry

New Member
darine,

do you think he's seeing someone else? because it seems like someone else have replaced you in his heart. most of the time spouse tend to drag on an unhappy marriage until they met someone who gave them the courage to spell things out.
 

darine_gal

New Member
yes i suspect so too... but he denys... then again.. the real reason doesn't matter... he is a changed man and i have to accept it... that he no longer wants anything to do with me...
 

scopefun

New Member
Darine Gal,

Guys are different. The only similarity amongst us is the sexual instinct.

For me, I'd always like you... think about the sweet things in life about her and her and her... bla bla bla... And yes, it's very hard to let go... for me. It's really why I am in trouble because I invest too much love in girls when I definitely shouldn't.

But to other guys... the thot process may not be so complicated... After all, guys are built to fock... to score. See? And it doesn't mean marriage would stop anything, especially the libido.

So you asked me, you asked about guys, I can safely tell you... given normal girls... Don't EVER speculate a guy. Also your kind of expectation of a good guy may not be that of an actual good guy.

I know you are hurted... the memories were good, that's why you are married. BUT...

Dear, you have to realise that you have chosen wrongly, and you should pray and rejoice because it happened, and you can wake up... and you can embrace a new life, since you sound very young.

For a guy to forget the past is simple... if he is that type of... person. He can simply lust after one chick, and you'd become liability, and you'd need to be ditched, and you WILL be ditched. It's not really thot process, it's the sexual need... to simplify things. Of course, there are guys who r out for love, like myself.

So... take this experience as a good lesson. Don't just jump into marriage again speculating your partner. You MUST know your partner well in REAL. Every guy will tell you he is after love, but if you use your brain, you'd be able to tell who are the guys with what thot process.

I'd bet a copi with you, once your guy hugs and makes love with the next sweet young thing, all those fond memories you so treasure could be well incinrated on his side. LOL~

I don't understand, why after marriage then you are so interested to know about the thot process... Isn't this something you should know BEFORE marriage?

Don't trust words like "My heart is no longer with you..." This is bullshit. To a man, if you are the One, you will ALWAYS be the One. If you are just a partner, married or mistress or KTV... you will always only be a partner.

So said, his heart is hence with you or never be. It's never 'no longer'.

What is the difference between feelings and quantity? See?

Hope this helps.
 
*Without Prejudice*

Scope guy, you seem to generalise man with your statement though I have to agree on certain points but I beg to differ on some.

You seem to sound like a lover than a high male testosterone man which you pointed out yourself. Well, you are brave to identify yourself one.

However on the contrary, I can't say you are right or you are wrong and vice versa for me or anyone for that matter. No one is the same however given that many advise out there by friends and etc, it seems to point that we end up doing what the majority is pointing us to do. A broken heart person maybe easily convinced or sway or well, to some extend but look, we have to know if we can or cannot do and take comments in a constructive way but never applied fully because no one knows except yourself what the memories are, the love he/she had and the character between the two.

It has always been a paradox when it comes to this subject and I am still trying to manage my emotions. Let me tell you that indeed it took 2 hands to clap and a marriage is about this:

- Compromise
- Proving Love and the worth to keep each other
- Understanding each other
- Forgiving and Trusting
- The most difficult one..... Patience

Only if those above can be done and achieved by 'YOURSELF' then yes, it will eventually lead to faithfulness and honesty and not the other way round. Try asking for honesty and faithfulness without doing anything, will it work? You answer this yourself.

Go ponder what I say but again, it may not be right or wrong, the answer is in your heart but that answer may not be right because given the attitude towards facing a problem and the million dollar question in Love 101 is...... Can you be forgiving and offer your patience to chase back a love you think it's worth to keep? Then define what is worth to keep yourself, this cannot be asked or advised by anyone but yourself. Remember, don't keep harping on the one mistake(s) that will make you say "this is it" and make decisions based on that...

What is worth to keep cannot be answered in a split second and what can or cannot forgive depends on individual. But a little note and the so the saying goes, to err is human and to forgive, divine. Not witholdstanding that I am asking you to be divine, but your other half may have and had made certain mistakes (given he/she was unfaithful or committed betrayal) but are you going to crucify him/her without judgment and a fair trial with time and patience for yourself included? Haven't you make or made any mistakes even if you had been faithful, a mistake is a mistake in the context of love. We aren’t talking about governing laws anymore but simply, love. Taking your other half for granted and neglect at times maybe as hurting to him/her because he/she may deem the same mentality as you as well, where has the real love gone? Then assumptions and suspicion sets in...

If no chance then why think your 1, 2, 5, 10 or even 30 years of marriage is worth it or not, just move on and if you are the latter like what I have just mentioned, then you yourself is not forgiving yourself to forgive others. Then don't blame it on the other half should the divorce goes through. Again, how you walk into a courtship took 2 hands to clap, how you walk into a marriage took 2 hands to clap, how you make or made mistakes also took 2 hands to clap and how you manage this predicament and problem also takes 2 hands to clap and if one person choose to close and end the marriage, does this constitute to taking 2 hands to end the marriage? No, unfortunately, it only took 1 to end it and not 2...

Remember, assumption and cornering each other to make a decision now will never work for either parties. It's more to it but I doubt I can finish this topic in one post so let's just look at the latter in a very open hearted way and ultimately, you got to cross your own barrier to look at love in a less haste, compassionate, gracious and passive way. Forgive yourself first before you can have faith again...
 

scopefun

New Member
Torn Guy,

You think too much.

Say, a perfect wife can do all you have suggested, and yet her man can still stray.

LOL~

A man can also try his best, but the wife will still stray.

What is the marriage vow, Torn Guy?

You don't seem to understand what you are driving at. But I do hope you take your issue as a lesson in life.

For your One and build a home up together. You really think too much.

I have to generalise men and generalising them not only in their best ten years, but for their entire marriage life.

You are not wrong... all my women said I am a great lover. So I cannot refute this point. And I am also looking for a great lover too.
 


Scope Guy, without prejudice again... You have your point and to each it's own and I cannot say you are right or wrong for you but in my perspective, I would definitely again, beg to differ.

It's not about thinking but rationalising passively, calmly and unconditionally. There again, I ain't saying the other half is and will ever be perfect. Are you yourself first? Sorry, aren't going to probe further because I don't know you in person but even if I do as a friend or good friend for that matter, I won't know what you and your other half did or do or the memories involved and even our own parents won't know what the full context of how we feel for each other because unless they are part of us, they never know everything.

Marriage vow(s) indeed includes unconditional love. But, who is to say that unconditional love means you have to stop forgiving when he/she did something wrong or committed something terribly wrong? Then? You already mentioned "LOL~" which proves a point, your unconditional love stops when mistake is made then let me throw this question back to you, what and how you comprehend marriage vow?

Don't look at love in one way but many perspective. It is definitely a lesson for me in my life but is it for you?

Well, good for you if all woman says you are a great lover and since you are, you wouldn't have made such comments in the first place and encourage people to look at salvation than to move on as per how you narrate your advise and comments.
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I rest my case...
 

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