Master David Tong's Advice Corner (Geomancy and Fengshui)

Hi Master Tong,

Thank you very much for your prompt reply.
Since 30/10/2010 is not a good one as it clashes with Groom's dad then how about 24/10/2010?

Bride - 15 Sept 1986 (Tiger)
Mum - 1957 (Rooster)
Dad - 1953 (Snake)

Groom - 25 Dec 1985 (Ox)
Mum - 1954 (deceased)(Horse)
Dad - 1955 (Goat)

Pls advise. Thank you very much.
 


Hi AD080809,

Yes that is correct. The 7am-9am timing means the groom will have to step into bride house at 7am, fetch her to groom's home and complete the tea ceremony by 9am. After that, it is "free and easy". The timing to go back to the bride's home for tea ceremony is not important.
 
Hi Finnie,

Thomas has answered for me your question. Thanks Thomas
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Let me put it this way. If after ROM and before your AD, both of you decided to split, it is still considered a divorce right? In the old days, there is no such thing as ROM. Everything is done in 1 day, hence AD is important. BUT that is the past...we are now into 21st century. And now, wedding is split in ROM and AD. As Thomas had mentioned, ROM is the day both of you officially and legally become husband and wife. AD is just a tea ceremony and banquet. So, if you think from this perspective, which do you think is more important?

Anyway, regardless of which is more important, as Chinese, we want good dates for everything. So if you can, choose auspicious dates for both!

You can get married in 7th month or Qing Ming, nothing will happen. Date selection does not take into account chinese culture. But i will generally avoid choosing dates in these months unless you specifically want to do it and let me know. Reason being so far, even if both of you agree to do it in 7th month, 99% of the time, your parents will not agree to it. So if you really want to do it in 7th mth, get the approval from your parents first before choosing. It will save you headaches next time
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An auspicious date is basically a date whereby the Qi for the day is good and favourable for both of you, in according to both your Bazi. Everyday, there will be someone in good and bad luck. All these luck (ie when good and bad etc) can be determined using your Bazi. From your Bazi, we will know when you go thru good times and bad times. But this is more of Destiny analyis, not marriage. But the concept is similar. For wedding, we want to choose a good day so that events for that day will proceed more smoothly and most importantly, if there are anything bad in the Bazi about marriage, it will pacify the intensity and sometimes save the marriage (depending on how bad it is). This is why we need a good date for our marriage.

For ROM, you can use 18th Oct as well.

Hope this helps.
 
Hi noob,

If the person uses your Bazi to determine the dates, perhaps he choose this day for a reason or maybe it is really very auspicious for both of you.

Within the day, the timing is also very important. Try to use the good timing if possible.

As for why ROM is more important, I've just answered a thread above.

Hope this helps
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Thanks for the explanation Master Tong & Thomas!

For Bazi Reading, Other than the birthdates & time of the couple. Do you need the birthdates & time for both parents?

How long do you need to do a proper Bazi Reading?

Please advise. Thanks! =)
 
Hi Master Tong, my HTB and I had chosed 28/11/2009 as our AD and Solemnisation day together.
My HTB is an Ox and I'm a Monkey. we didnt consult anything beforehand as we actually chose the date based on the hotel's availability.

Can you help to advise if this date is actually ok?
If not, is there any auspicious hour which we can still go through the ceremony?

Thank you!
 
Hi Finnie,

For selecting of wedding dates, I need the birthday and time of birth of the couple and the animal signs of the parents.

How long it takes will depend on my current schedule and also your available date and time.

Hope this helps.
 
Hi Vernica,

The day also clashes to the groom's dad, so by right if you can choose, you are not advisble to choose this day. If the groom's parents check the Tong Shu, it will be "Xiong" or bad for him on that day.

This is the Qi governing the day. You cannot do anything to avoid it. The best is to avoid using this day.
 
So if the master chooses this date for us it means that it is very safe if we follow the timing despite this date is not a generally good date for marriage? I also got read the tong shu they got mentioned the word marriage in it so why is this date not considered a good day? Very curious. So do I still need to change a date or just follow the timing u recommended? Thanks.
 
Hi Pino,

For your AD dates, the tong Shu for 2010 is not out yet so i will not be able to check for you till it is out. The only way and corect way to do it now will be using Bazi to calculate the way to ensure it is specifically good for both of you only. Tong Shu is for mass consumption only.

I can help you with the 2009 dates. Will your ROM be in 2009 and which month are you looking at?
 
Hi noob,

It depends on which Tong Shu you buy. From the few Tong Shu that i have, this date is not reflected as good for wedding. So this again proves one point...Tong Shu is inconsistent. Different publications of Tong Shu says different things. One date, different Tong Shu, some may say good, some say not good. If you don't believe me, you can go to Popular bookstore and grab some Tong shu to check it out
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And furthermore, if you read your tong Shu further, there is a "Chu" word in the Tong Shu for this date. This tells you this day is good for what purpose. This is another layer of filtering many layman or amateurs do not know about. And "Chu" day is good for surgery, for sacking someone, getting rid of someone, and even divorce. Hence, you can see that the purpose of the day is wrong!

I know it gets technical here and not easy to understand, but this is the best i can explain to keep it as simple as possible
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As i do not know how the master selects the date, frankly, i can't adivse you whether to keep or to change coz he probably did take your Bazi into account.

Hope this helps.
 
Hi Master Tong, the details are as follow:

groom (ox)
both Parents (dog)

bride (monkey)
Father (rat)
Mother (rabbit)
we are looking at 28 nov this year.

Thank you once again!
 
Hi Master Tong,

My HTB and I intend to customary in 2011. Are you able to list out some of the good dates for us in 2011?

Groom (Rooster)
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Mother: Cow
Father: Cow

Bride (Pig)
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Mother: Tiger
Father: Mouse

I saw in your earlier post that 2011 clashes with Rooster.. does it mean it's not recommended to customary in 2011? is the Tiger year better?
 
Hi Pino,

You can use the following dates (general dates only) for 2009:

- 03/10, 08/10, 13/10, 25/10, 18/11, 30/11, 06/12, 07/12, 19/12, 31/12

Hope this helps.
 
Hi Xinyi,

This is not a general Tong Shu good day for marriage. However, if the day is compatible with the Bazi, it can still be used and is a good day, and vice versa. This day clash to Goat, which is none of you.

Hope this helps
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Hi Stickytape,

Yes those born in year of the Rooster is not recommended to get married in 2011.

For 2011, the Tong Shu is not out yet hence i cannot give you the general Tong Shu dates now. It will be out next yr July/Aug period. Right now, using Bazi to select 2011 is the way to go and in fact, there are already many couples going for 2011 dates already.
 
Hi Master Tong,

Thanks for ur help. So if my master selects this date for me means that this date is still good despite some tong shu claimed is a bad date? M i right? He also mentioned that we need to follow the timing strictly which means that only this time is auspicious for wedding ceremony?
 
Hi Master Tong,

Thank you very much for your prompt replies.
Since both 24/10/2010 and 30/10/2010 are not good dates for us.
can you kindly let me know which dates in Oct/nov 2010 will be good?

Bride - 15 Sept 1986 (Tiger)
Mum - 1957 (Rooster)
Dad - 1953 (Snake)

Groom - 25 Dec 1985 (Ox)
Mum - 1954 (deceased)(Horse)
Dad - 1955 (Goat)


Thank u
 
Hi Master Tong,

I'll be getting married on 25 Oct 09. What is the auspicious time for fetching the bride?

Bride: 13 Nov 1982, Dog
Father: Dog
Mother: Rat

Groom: 20 July 1982, Dog
Father: Ox
Mother: Monkey

Thank you.
 
Dear Master Tong,

Need your advice again.

My sister-in-law going to give birth around my customary wedding.

Question..

If she give birth before my Actual Day, can my brother attend my day time ceremony ?

and

Can we visit my sister-in-law after that ?
 
Hi noob,

Yes. If your master uses Bazi to calculate the dates, despite the Tong Shu says bad, if the date is compatible with both your Bazi, it is still considered good (specifically good for both of you), so not to worry. And yes, you will need the auspicious timing for fetch the bride and ROM etc.
 
Hi Vernica,

The Tong Shu for 2010 is not out yet, hence i will not be able to provide you with the general Tong Shu dates for wedding. Right now, the only way and correct way to do it will be using Bazi to select dates.
 
Hi Shaling,

Your brother can attend your wedding but you cannot visit your sister in law. For the wedding couple, 3 months before and after your wedding, you are not suppose to go to other people's wedding, funerals/wakes and child birth.

Hope this helps.
 
Hi Master Tong,

Thanks for your wonderful explanation and clear my doubts. Ya I also having the same case as Shaling which my sister also going to give birth around my wedding date. If my sister give birth earlier can she attend my wedding if the baby already one month old? How abt if she havent give birth by my wedding can she attend my wedding? Thanks
 
Hi Master Tong,

Sorry still got a question to ask. You mention "For 9am-10.59am, what this means is that the groom have to step into the bride house at 9am, fetch her to the groom's home and complete the tea ceremony by 10.59am."

The tea ceremony in this case is it mean that the tea ceremony at my parent's house or the whole tea ceremony including at my wife house? Then is it by 10.59am i have to leave my parent's house? I heard from some ppl as long as i bring the bride to my parent home by 10.59am i am very safe liao excluding the tea ceremony is it true?
 
Hi Master Tong,

Thanks for timing. That date was one of the few dates given to my in-laws by someone at the temple. It cames with the timing too but its something like from 9am-12:55pm which i find its kind of late. How would define a good date or auspicious timing? Now, I'm a bit confused.
 
Hi noob,

If she haven't give birth, of course she can attend your wedding. If she already give birth, she can also attend your wedding. But you cannot go to her childbirth or one month ("Man Yue") celebration is it falls within 3 mths of your wedding.

>You mention "For 9am-10.59am, what this means
>is that the groom have to step into the bride
>house at 9am, fetch her to the groom's home and
>complete the tea ceremony by 10.59am."

Yes that is correct. The 9am-10.59am timing means to step into the bride's house, fetch the bride to the groom's house and complete tea ceremony to the groom's parents by 10.59am. After which, going back to the bride's parent's home for tea ceremony is NOT within the timing. There is no need for timing to leave the house. It is "free and easy' after tea ceremony to groom's parents. Best to complete the tea ceremony by 10.59am, and i don't see why this cannot be done coz even if one stays in Jurong and the other in Pasir Ris, it still can be done.

This is our chinese culture. There is no right and wrong answer for this coz this is not part of feng shui or chinese metaphysics. It is simply a culture we follow. So long as you and your parents are comfortable with it, it is ok.

Hope this helps
 
Hi Jing,

1 "shi chen", which is one chinese hour, is 2 hours. So for eg, one chinese hour is from 7am-8.59am, 9am-10.59am and so forth. It is not right to give timing from 9am - 12.55pm. It makes no sense at all ...

A good date for wedding is a date that is compatible with both the couple's Bazi (and NOT based on the Tong Shu alone..that is too generic) and won't clash to the couple or parents. It must also satisfy some others date selections formulas, which is an astrological system formula that is able to define which day is good for wedding, but that gets way too complicated to describe here.

If i am not wrong, the date that they give your in-laws are based on the Tong Shu. To be able to select a date based on Bazi, that person must be able to read a Bazi Chart. Knowing how to plot a Bazi chart is not sufficient as this can be easily done with computers. You must know how to read and interpret it (and this is not something that can be self taught or programmed to be interpreted by a computer software! No software is able to interpret a Bazi chart accurately)

Btw, fyi, getting your date of birth and birth timing doesn't mean that person knows how to read a Bazi Chart. I've done many second opinion consultations and i realised that although some may get the couple's birthday and time of birth, he didn't really use it to plot out a Bazi chart. All he derived from that info you gave is your year of birth, that's all, which of course is not correct.

I hope this clears up some of your doubts.
 
hi mr david tong,

previously, my husband and i consulted his friend to count the date for us.. he gave us 25.12.2009. lately another geomacian say its not a good date.. we are stuck, we have book everything... am very sad..

please advice..

my husband - goat

myself - dog

regards,
soh
 
Hi Sze Min,

Yes, although that day is a general good day in the Tong Shu, that day clashes to Dog, which is you. Hence not a god day to use for your wedding.

Yes i do Bazi consultation in thorough, but since this is part of my consultation service, I do charge for this or it will be unfair to my clients. Hope you understand. You can drop me an email for more information. My email is: [email protected]

Hope this helps.
 
Hi David Tong,

Thanks for ur explanation. So how do i know my master calculates both our Bazi correctly when i saw some of the forumers here they claimed their master give them the wrong dates.
 
Hi Master Tong,

So is it worth to do a second opinion consultation? What happen the second opinion consultation says no gd then i will be at a big loss dunno which date to choose liao? Actually the master also mentioned the same auspicious timing as u.
 
Hi noob,

If you already fix your banquet venue and cannot be changed without losing your deposit, then sometimes it is better not to find out since even if you find that it is really no good, you can't do anything about it and you will end up paranoid.

Hope this helps.
 
Hi David Tong,

My customary will be on 21st Nov 2009, still looking a date for ROM in Nov.

Groom (Horse)
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Mother: Roaster
Father: Snake

Bride (Cow)
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Mother: Monkey
Father: Rabbit

Is 21st Nov a good date for us? Can you help us choose a good date to ROM in Nov?

Thank you.
 
Hi Master Tong,

Thanks your the explanation. Since I can't change the date now just like the case for noob. Does auspicious timing complements it in any way?
 
Hi Master Tong,

My HTB and I decided to ROM soon due to certain constrains but our friends' actual day is on 19th of Dec and we do not wish to crash on their wedding. Can you help me pick an auspicious date for us?
 
Hi Master Tong,
My hubby and I are having our customary next year (2010). Need your advise on the below. Thanks.

Bride: Goat
Groom: Hose
AD: Sep 2010

1. Is 2010 a year for us to get married?

2. My SIL is also getting married in Jan 2010. Is it ok to have brother and sister getting married in the same year?

3. My hubby and I thought of getting our own house this year and we will be living with his parent. But his sister will also be moving in with us too since her AD is in 2010.
Will it be bad for us if his sister is married off from our house? Is there any saying of "Luck" being taken away by her in this case?

Hope you an advise and set our mind at ease. Thanks!
 
Hi Master Tong

My wedding is on the chinese calendar 11 of august (290909) but as i have only 11 day to go after 7th month, i need to do my guo da li earlier in July, do we need to choose an auspicious date and time as well? and is more than one month to my actual day, is this ok?
For An chuan, do we have to pick an auspicious date as well?
My HTB : Tiger (1974)
Me : Rabbit (1975)
 


Hi Master Tong,

Sorry but I left out our details.

My HTB - Dog (1982)
Father in Law - Horse (1954)
Mother in Law - Rat (1960)

Me - Rat (1985)
Father - Horse (1954)
Mother - Goat (1955)

We intend to have our ROM around Aug-Sep but not to crash with our friend's actual day on 19th dec. Please advise. My email is [email protected]
 
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