newbbi, i also got knee cap pain.... it's the joint rite? mine is an old injury that came back and at one time it was so bad that i had to stop fitness for 6 mths cos i can't even walk up a slope without limping... luckily no surgery is needed cos i've sort of worn out my knee joint moisture? watever that is.... i'm now starting to use this glucosomine cream which provide moisture to the joints so that there will be less friction. maybe you can try that or take in the supplements?