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[fern]

Hi lala...
yep, I'm migrating w my hubby...going to Brisbane where his family is...

Aimee, i was hooked from the very fist time i went. This church has built my faith up tremendously. The teachings of God's grace and underved favour has also given me peace and comfort.

The teachings of the power of christ's blood, the redemption from sins that makes us righteous before God, the protection it offers also gives me great strength and courage.

My hubby goes to the same church as me and he also feels the same way. Pastor Prince's teachings has also strengthened our marriage, as sometimes he talks about the relationship between man and wife (using examples of himself and his wife), and even of parenting.

Pastor Prince is a good speaker, often peppering his sermons with jokes and light moments that never leaves a dull moment.

Why not come and see for yourself? We have mid-week services on Thur and Fri (7.30pm) and 4 services on Sunday (9am, 11.15am, 2.15pm, and 4.15pm)

 

[onyx]

Hi Ladies

I can't help but to comment on New Creation Church.

I had been with NCC since 1994 and seen it grow. Unfortunately, I'm no longer attending the church as I and many others feel that the leadership is losing its focus.

I'm not here to badmouth the church nor claim support. But it gets worrying when people appear to be more interested in the Word only when P. Prince is preaching.

I can safely say that there is unwarranted amount of PP worship which I feel should never be the case. I mean why is the church no longer putting up Easter plays or service and Christmas plays and dinners, but continue to celebrate PP birthday with the congregation at every service with a huge cake. If you look at the preaching tapes and CD, we see a huge picture of Joseph Prince and not JC...I wonder why...

Like what someone mentioned, the queue is ridiculous. And to have to put up a ticketing system? I mean is it really necessary for PP to have personal entourage? To have Cisco guards guard the church?

This is just a bit of the common grouse. Believe me, there is more dirt that I would rather not question.

Just a bit of my thoughts.

 

[laughing]

Hi Onyx,

Hmm..good questions. You are right on that account of pple being more interested when PP is preaching. Attendence actually drops when the other pastor is preaching. But my suspicion is that becoz the church has a lot of visitors from other churches who come for PP's sermons, when he is not around, naturally the crowd becomes smaller as only the members turn up.

I guess only the church can answer your questions on the Q, cisco, PP's birthday, etc.

One thing I have learned, no 1 church is perfect. If you find one, don't attend it coz you'll ruin it!

Another thing I've learned, no one preacher is always correct. I've disagreed with a lot of things PP says. Most importantly, we have got to turn to the Author of the Bible himself for the full truth.

heehee..just a bit of my thots too..

 

[onyx]

Hi La La

Actually, I wouldn't know if PP is preaching on the Sunday or not until I turn up, so I'm not sure if that's the reason for poor visitor turn-up. Or maybe I'm just too out of the loop to know these things. But I know for sure that last last week, PP wasn't in, my mum went for Hokkien service instead. She changed her mind when in the q.

I mean yes, PP can be more entertaining but seems like people are more interested in PP rather than the Word. Remember PP is just the vessel, we should really focus on the Word.

I know no human is perfect, so definitely churches are not perfect, but NCC is getting into too many controversies that are unnecessary and really, no one knows why things are done this way except the exclusive leadership circle.

 

[nicatan]

hi lala,

oic... duno mine yet... still waiting for them to let us knew but it starts in aug 2. eve3ning or afternoon sessions?

hi girl ren yu,

thks for the advice.. i tink mpc is very impt too so mayb i put it in jan.

God told me not to rush wen i prayed but i dun wana drag too long after completing the cse

 

[jan_jan]

Hi Oynx,

Me also a member of NCC. I understood what are you talking about. Being a member, I am not trying to be defensive. I feel there will always be people who do like Pastor Prince alot, there are people I know who are a little obsessed with Pastor. And the attendance thingee...AS I said there will always be this group of people who will probably not turn up if Pastor is not preaching at times.

But as long as we know our main purpose of going to church is to praise and worship God, or else, does not matter!

 

[jan_jan]

Sorry, forgot to correct the last part. It should be read this way: But as long as we know our main purpose of going to church is to praise and worship God, EVERYTHING (not or) else, does not matter!

Sorry!

 

[fern]

Hi Onyx,
if you look at my post above yours, you will notice that my emphasis is on the teachings of things like grace and the power of Jesus's blood that increased my faith and my rest in God. Of course the preacher plays a part because they are "delivering" the sermons.
It is not fair for you to coment that we are PP worshippers and "not interested" in the word. Can you blame PP if he is good at putting the Word across in simple terms for us to understand and grasp?
Most of us will only know when we are there (in the auditorium) if PP is preaching and i think majority do not change their minds like your mum.

A lot of preachers' tapes do not really show JC on the cover, not just PP's. Take a look around.

The queue is "Ridiculous" becos the turnout is great! The ticketing system is for worshippers to collect on a first come first serve basis, so no need to queue for a long time.

Which month is PP's birthday becos last year and this year, i did not see any birthday cakes.

Did you know that last December they worked with Mediacorp to produce a christmas show to spread the word of Jesus and to glorify God?

I also disagree with or find that some of the things PP said lack a little bit of substance. But then we can and do turn to the bible to read up further to establish the truth. Afterall, some people can have different interpretations of the bible when certain parts are taken out of context.

Just my thots too...

 

[onyx]

Hi Fern

I will not deny that I have learnt the Grace message and the power of Jesus' blood from PP's sermons. I find that his focus on prosperity is sometimes unbalanced with the other important elements of the Word. I believe his sermons are packaged towards reeling in the people cos money is what the common people are most concerned about.

Anyhow, I hope you do not take my comments personally. I do not mean you're a PP worshipper neither do I mean to imply that any of the others at this thread are.

All I am saying is that it is clearly a worrying trend that people are going to church cos a certain pastor is or is not preaching. And I am certain that a lot of the congregation will not turn heels and head elsewhere. I mean, deep down inside, to those of us used to PP's style, I'm sure there's a certain level of disappointment.

Yes, JC is not a must on the preaching material but is it really necessary to glamourise PP in such a manner? This, to me, may lead some weaker ones into idolatry which I see in this church. And really, there's no measures in place to check that. I know cos I have close friends who think they're really privilleged to do this and that.

Undenibly, God has done great things to NCC and I rejoice that more people are seeking him through NCC but for traditional church goers, the queuing is indeed an unusual and frustrating experience. Unlike other churches, the pastor is super unaccessible and unapproachable!

PP's birthday is in May...gosh...come to think of it, we used to celebrate even Wendy's birthday! I haven't attended NCC for sometime now but my parents who are still attending NCC did agree to my point about celebrating PP's birthday and not Christmas or Easter.

Yes, I'm aware that they did a Christmas show but that was something done before Christmas. I don't believe that would affect having a Christmas service. To put it very honestly, yeah, being on TV is a great thing, but somehow, I feel that it was more a glam chance for some people to gain more exposure rather than an evangelical event glorifying God.

I'm just wondering why the church doesn't have any Christmas service? For years, they've had dramas where we get to invite friends. Nevermind that they were repeats, but it was a good chance to spread the Glory of God. But now?

After several years, PP tends to sound like a broken record, saying the same things, same examples over and over again. I don't feel growth cos like I have said his focus is rather narrow. I do agree that I do not totally believe what he says and there's always the Word to look to for the Truth.

More thots

 

[angelbb]

Hi! I'm also a NCC goer... just wanna share my testimony and also what I have enjoyed learning about Jesus and His promises of love and faith thru my few years there... My life was a real big mess before I came to know Christ... And somehow, even though I knew I was getting myself into trouble, I still wanted to try new stuff, and never hesitated to think about consequences and what I'm getting myself into. If possible, I wanted to try out everything, cos I thot, if you never try, you'll never ever get to try it again right?

It was after a whole 2years of late nites, blotched relationships, messed up life, that I came to realise I needed God. I needed Him to turn my time around, and to restore my life back to how it was. I wanted to turn back and be a good person, to undo all the things I regretted doing, and hopefully to find love in the right places and to find new friends that will take me out from the circle that I'm been mixing up with. I was in despair, yet adamant about admitting I was wrong... basically, I was so very stubborn. I refused to admit my life was a mistake, and I refused to believe that I had taken a wrong step... It was then, that I hypocritically told myself "Your motto is you only live once right? That you wanna try EVERYTHING once? Why not try church? Why not give it a shot? Scared?" (later on then I realised that God must have lead me to think that way... phew!)

I went on a church hunt... maybe some of you may know how it goes about... going for services after services at diff churches on sundays, looking for somewhere where you think you're gonna be accepted... Well, my sundays were carried out in what I would call (at that time) an efficient and meticulous manner. Planned my sermons timetable, planned the easiest routes to churches, etc. And I remembered being vehemently against going NCC (cos of some of the things I heard about it), purposely planning it as the last stop cos I told myself, if I like any other churches on my itenary, I can just skip visiting it...

Praise God for bringing me to the end of myself about this. I finished my itenary, and felt really lost and desperate... had no other choice but to go to my last stop on the list. What happened then was a real miracle... somehow, I felt at home there... the message that was given, was of God's never ending, never failing grace, and that His love is faithful, His love is much more, and His love is power, His love surpasses all our faults and all our ugliness, only loving us as His children just as much as He loves His darling Jesus. His love is all the strength that I needed to change my life... not from the outside in, but from the inside out... there was no pressure to "do this, do that", but just to enjoy Him loving us, cos thats what He as our dear Father want the most to do...

I received Christ that day... I knew then I was accepted... not so much as being accepted in the church, but being accepted cos I'm His very precious beloved. The one His son died for. The one His son paid for. The one His son made righteous. The one His son suffered to give the best. I was no more an ugly person with an ugly life. I become His darling. I become His favourite. I was the daughter He was willing to love, no matter what happens.... That was everything I needed to hear, to change me from the deepest of my heart.

That day, it wasnt even Pastor Prince preaching... the whole sermon was a video clip of Deacon Mark's testimony...

 

[angelbb]

Please dun be offended, but it is only when I came to know God, that I know no matter which church I go to, I will be warmly welcomed into the family. I just wanna emphasis that, there is a church for everyone... In fact, there is MORE than one church for everyone. Cos our God is big. Thats why, we should not pass any judgement upon any church, never put so much emphasis on the church runnings, locations, programes, admin or pastors that we look upon them as the reason to go, or even NOT to go...ultimately, we are going there to listen to God, not the preacher, and besides, we are all give a Holy Spirit, to discern what is God's message, and what are the bones that are to be spat out... AND we have the MORE SURE WORD...

There are so many different types of church, becos our God is big. Our God is HUGE! How else to cater to all our differences, and all our needs and wants? I know my mum doesnt really like the praise and worship in NCC, cos she doesn't like to repeat the chorus at all, and my ex-classmate doesnt like to attend Sundays, cos he say he gets confused seeing so many people....

I mean, even eating chilli we also have garlic, vinegar, sauce, cut, paste, raw, oil, powder, curry, etc! Sooo many types!!

I've enjoyed attending a few other churches services even after I received Christ at NCC.. And what I see is that, not only does God has a different way to cater to each and every one of our hearts, we as children also have an individuals and different way of loving Him.

 

[angelbb]

Jus one more additional point .... there are times when anyone of us may let our speculations get the better of us...

but then, my PERSONAL guess is, pictures on CDs? .. if you're listening to a sermon, or sending it to non-christians, maybe the normal reaction will be that most of them wanna put a face on the voice they hear? And anyway, how do we accurately know what Jesus looks like?.....ticketing system? maybe to try to cut down chaos that is caused by the queue-cutting-please-reserve-a-seat-for-me-even-though-I'm-late attitude we Singaporeans can be so guilty of ... the personal entourage? likely cos of the number of times christians flagged PP down is too abnormal for him to handle? (esp those that have just-received-Christ-and-are-very-enthusiastic-about-getting-their-questions-answered ones).... the cisco? maybe an additional safety measure to deter robbers from robbing the church cos of the huge amount of offerings and tithes we give...

 

[onyx]

Hi AngelBB

I am glad to see God move in your life in great ways.

There are many demons that I find hard to fight about NCC. One last one before we move on onto other matters besides NCC...This is afterall a place to share wedding stuff for Christian brides

I've never understood the rationale behind Marine Cove. In fact, the official reason offered initially was that the church bought the area thinking of converting or building a church there. I am thinking, where is the wisdom? It's clear that Singapore has strict landuse laws and in fact, these are not national secrets at all. Anybody will know that East Coast Park is a recreational area. The government would never allow the land to be used for any other purpose. Now the place is used for investment purpose. Yes, I would agree to the idea that it may be a better choice to use the congregation's money to invest rather than to gather the puny interest in the bank. But as the congregation then, we were never told till it was grand opening. Gosh, can you imagine what a lot of us were thinking? There we were, in the Rock bursting at the seams, thinking that the top priority is to get a church location, but here the church suddenly pops up and tells you it owns this area and oh, it was supposed to be the church but the governement didn't allow.

What I particularly don't appreciate is how the leadership are not forthcoming about the church. E.g. They kept confusing the congregation about the Rock, well at least I was. At first, the Rock was owned by the church, then it was denied and than suddenly this Rock Productions appears on the scene and claims to own it and the church is merely leasing the place. It was never made clear what the relation is.

I believe that it is very important for a church to have a God-focussed leadership who's accountable to the congregation. Through my own experience and my close acquaintences, I am drawn to conclude that NCC's leadership is questionable.

I mean I was surprised and not surprised to find out that a very early member in the church who was a well-loved and respected deacon till 1/2 years ago commit CBT in the church. First thing to my mind was the question of what kind of culture/pressure that was faced by this inner circle of leaders to "prosper" that led to such an offence. I am also aware that the church called certain ministries to full-time service and were given salaried positions which they are incapable of. And many cases of people hanging around the leadership to be called on to full-time service which like i mentioned are like salaried non-jobs. Think I said more than enough.

I know that we all have different tastes and that you may think that NCC is not my cup of tea. I've been in NCC long enough to see the change. I am saddened by the change/erosion.

To answer you on your last post...Is it really important to see the face? Why not concentrate on the Word and have an unbiased heart? Yes, I'm all for some order in that madness, so yeah to God for inventing the ticketing system. Personal entourage...why can't PP lift his finger to get his own drink? Aren't we all the same? Maybe my aide-de-coup friend is the one guilty of idol-worshipping. He was like so very proud that he made it to the inner circle of PP and he was like rejoicing that he was given the opportunity to help PP get his things from his car. This friend is (or rather on hindsight was) a pretty matured brother-in-christ. I wonder what happened to him under the close influence of PP!

God, I pray that you lead me and my fellow sisters-in-Christ to learn more of Your higher ways. I pray for wisdom and the spirit of discernment in confusing times as these. I thank you Lord for gathering us here in this forum to learn of Your love for each of us. In Jesus name I pray, Amen.

Dear All

Thank you for bearing with my lengthy posts.

 

[fern]

Onyx, a lot of churches do make mistakes you know. Afterall, the church is headed by human beings who are not perfect (even under the guidance of the holy spirit and God). So, if like you claim, they made a mistake with Marine Cove, it couldn't be used a church, they turned it into a revenue churning investment, and the church uses the profits to help others like the Kidney foundation to give kidney disease suffers subsidised medical help, is that a bad thing? Trust God to turn such a "mistake" around to something good huh? NCC was and is still a growing church, what is most important that they learn from mistakes and increase in faith and strengthen bonds between God and also between the members. I feel that no matter which church we go to, we should always learn to trust the leaders and God's annointing upon them. Or should we also fight to be in the ranks of leaders so that we always know what is 100% going on behind the scenes?

Like you said, maybe only your friend is guilty of PP worshipping, being estactic about fetching PP a glass of water. I believe the rest of the congregation are not fighting to fetch PP's slippers or whatever from his car...

No offense, but i feel that your perspectives are narrow and you like to make generalised statements based on isolate examples. So should we contest each and every one of your claims?

Anyway, we are really happy that you are now attending a perfect church that suits you. It is really not necessary to bring out all these so-called "NCC demons" of yours here.

Thank you for realising that this thread was meant for sharing testimonies and preparations of our marriages, not for the purpose you have used it for.

Amen and may God grant you the wisdom and the spirit of discernemt you ask for.

 

[onyx]

Dear Fern

Thank you for your perspectives. I am aware that we are after all humans and the church is never perfect. Well, each church has its problems. Guess some just manage to hide it well enough through good works.

I have to disagree with you that my views are narrow. I know these things from people working and serving firsthand within the church organisation.

I'm sorry to upset some of you here with what I know about NCC. It was never meant to be offensive or an expose of sorts. I had to get it off my chest.

I can only tell you that if you're active in church enough, you will learn about such unacceptable (by my standards) going-ons. And there're only two possible outcomes: either you'll be proud to be able to join the privilleged inner circle or you'll be upset and leave with bad impression.

I seek God's wisdom thank you, and I shall pray for all of you as well.

Peace

 

[teng2]

Hi everyone,

After reading so much, guess it's time to give my one cent's worth.
Since I'm neither for or against NCC as a whole, I hope what I'm about to say is from an objective point of view.

Before that, would sincerely like to bring forth a point that Lala has started this thread to enable us sisters in christ to seek help/advice/prayers from one another and it all started in very good faith, if you notice from all the past (beginning) messages in this thread.....all the prayer requests from one another, how we jokingly teased one another on the testimonies given eg : Fern's ring.....etc...... within a short few days.....these seem to have gone...........and frankly speaking, gals, believe this is deterring other sisters from joining us..... especially though taken in a more "polite" manner (as in words used), we are adults and can sense the "flames" that are brewing.................hope you understand what I mean.

For Onyx, I understand her point of view about how pple/members appears to worship a pastor/preacher more than the WORD itself because there are many who behaves in that way.....attending services when that person is preaching and skipping when the person is not..........I believe that goes to show that these pple are actually not firm believers and rather, is more interested in how these preachers/pastors can manage to put God's words across in a light-hearted (easy to grasp) manner. Frankly speaking, aren't these talented speakers a blessing from our Heavenly father too? We need these speakers to try and stop non-believers especially uncles and aunties in their tracks and say "hey, church services aren't that boring after all...."......only then will they actually be willing to sit down.........and God's words to enter their hearts slowly............no matter what, we are humans and tends to change focus/mindset only when we are fascinated by something....same for attendance in services.

As for pple who are firm believers, regardless of who the speakers are, we will have to attend the service cos that's our duty/responsibility as a Christian........ and for Onyx, I'm sure to voice out all these opinions in the midst of NCC go-ers, I'm sure she did consider the opposing views that she is going to face even before she started..no ill intentions on her part but nevertheless, we can see what they have invoked.....and perhaps is due to the strong words used to describe the things she knows about NCC......and also, to be brought up in NCC too, I'm also sure it isn't easy for her to come up with such views either, believe these must have been accumulated.............and also with so many close ones like her good friend and mum's vulnerability seen and observed......around her, these feelings must have been aggravated.

As to Lala/Fern/Angelbb/JanJan, whether we are being brought to Christ or spiritually cultivated and grown from a certain church, we are bound to have this strong love and conviction for this particular church (in this case, NCC). Hence, can also sincerely understand the reaction from all of you with regard to Onyx's views.......... and it so happens that we have many NCC go-ers in the forum, which goes to show that whether all not Onyx's views are voiced out here.....in this thread or not, she's bound to receive many opposing viewpoints........unless there's another group of like-minded anti-NCC believers to back up her views....

Nevertheless, standing up to our own churches is definitely a good thing and it is obvious that in all the messages, each point of Onyx has been rebutted............ although some may sound rather defensive/or offensive at times, hopefully, by voicing out all our views with regard to all the points brought up, we can have a better understanding of things about NCC......but whichever is the truth or not, I don't think we are in the position to comment...........and neither is this thread meant to be for us to do so.

Come on pple, prayers are meant to be our communication with God and to pray together as one should be the ultimate goal....but it seems that the word "PRAY" has been used in a different and superficial context here......

Well..no matter what has been said earlier, sincerely hope that we can end the story of NCC here........ and start a thread on it elsewhere.....perhaps in a biblical/christian forum would be more appropriate cos there would be a wider range of viewpoints there.....rather than us, a few brides over here......discussing something we are not entirely able to be 100% sure of.

No matter what, let's remember one thing, whether it's PP or not, speakers/church leaders come and go in various churches but the church remains and God's spirit follows wherever we are................let's not condemn any church for whatever reason k................ as long as our hearts are true and we know that we are following the TRUTH, we should be assured that all churches exist for one main reason....and that is to let us have a place to worship the MIGHTY ONE and to allow non-believers to see the works of GOD and hear HIS messages...........

To all others : Rokko (the one who set up a prayer table for us), Pheb, Tulipblue, Tyng2, Pinkapple, lhf, cookie's girl (the one who gave me the cellgroup's contacts), Lala (tealeaf), Pammie, Girl Ren Yu, syt, Aimee (the one who knows my FH), Michelle, Zonkkie (NCC member too), kysha,

Time to come back k............we all belong to a happy family here........................

Rejoice in the Lord and continue to pray for one another yah

Hmm....believe this is an even lengthier post Happy reading

 

[aimee]

well well,
Sorry sisters...didnt mean to spark off so much postings with my curiosity (seems like curiosity really can kill the cat)

Fern,
Hubby thinking of dropping by NCC for one of the service. Prob after i've given birth next month i guess

To all, there are 3 reasons why i asked abt NCC:
1) Personally i have nothing against/for NCC, i'm just curious how it can 'attract' so much people whereas some churches remain stagnant for a long period of time. More people are going to church, but the % of Christians in SG is not increasing if you notice.

2) i realised some of you (or your partner) are quite young in faith, and i really hope & pray you all can continue to grow where you are and rooted spiritually in Christ.
My encouragement to all is: no matter where you are worshipping, do continue to grow and mature there tog as a couple, TOGETHER WITH THE FAMILY OF GOD. i've seen some in my church, people who just get married and leave (after making use of the church as venue for HM). It's a sad thing.

i've even heard of some who want to attend church becos they want to wear their wedding gown for a longer time during the day (cos got matrimony).

3) The difference between this thread and others is: it may seem 'hot' and 'flamy' here, but i believe it's a chance to speak out your convictions, so that they will stand when tested (1 Pet 1:7) esp during your episode of Marriage Preparation (or even Marriage Life after that)

But no hard feelings thereafter cos we belong to the family of Christ.

Well well, enough said. Let's move back to the original issue: shall we colate when everyone's AD is, and the venue for HM?

There are alot of issues to pray for each other esp wedding preparation...$,parents (if they are NCs), for the couple....do share them here ok?

 

[rokko]

hi teng... yes yes im back.... haven't been really following this thread but was very surprised to see so many comments of late...

just a tiny comment to all blessed sisters out there....
i am aware that we all have personal opinions and feelings about certain churches, but i think there is just one thing that i'm sure of... so long as we are focused on the word of God, and we are all growing in the Lord, all other issues do not really matter... so long as our eyes are on the Lord, our heart is in the right place, and we're walking with the Lord, that's what truly pleases the Lord!

I believe this thread was meant for us to uphold and support each other, and as christians, to pray for each other and encourage one another along... so let's not deviate from there... but continue to support and be a blessing one another, ok?

 

[teng2]

Hi Rokko...glad to see you again.....

Hi Aimee..aiyah, don't need to feel sorry abt being curious about the church lah....I'm sure the gals will be delighted to enlighten you.....

It's the controversies that we are trying to avoid mentioning here.....cos nobody knows for sure how accurate those comments/rebuttal are.....

Anyway....glad to see that we are getting back on track yah

 

[cookies_gal]

Hi Ladies,

I agree with what Aimee has said, time to move back to the original intention of this thread. Hope, no one has any bad feelings for each other ok? We're all one big family. Anyway, I wasn't scared away but I felt that as a non NCC member/ex-member, I'm in no position to comment. I can only read what the others have posted.

Let me start the ball rolling,

<table border=1><tr><td>Nickname</TD><TD>AD</TD><TD>HM Venue </TD></TR><TR><TD>cookie's gal</TD><TD> 18 Jun 05</TD><TD> St Andrew's Cathedral</td></tr></table>

Hi Teng,

Anyone from the group contacted you yet? BTW, what does FCMC stand for? I'm quite a mountain tortoise, can't figure out church names.

 

[teng2]

Hi Cookies....

Same sentiments exactly..kept quiet for quite some time hearing all the comments cos being a non-NCC member too...didn't know all the stories too..... until this morning...when I thought it's time to redirect back to our originator, Lala's intention....to share wedding preparation ideas with fellow Christian brides

same here...cannot figure out these acronyms used hehe was wondering for quite a while on why you asked me...until I remembered my bf's church..hahah...thought it was Fairfield something..

FCMC = Foo Chow Methodist Church

Me second in line.
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List of actual days
List of wedding schedule.xls (14.8 k)</td></tr></table></center>

 

[teng2]

Hi Aimee,

By the way, how do we create the table directly in the message?

 

[sweets]

Hello sisters,

I've read this thread on and off since its inception. Its awesome to read about God's work in everyone's lives...truly indeed God works in mysterious ways and it is indeed encouraging to listen to the testimonies and even opinions here in this thread.

Congrats to all the sisters who are preparing for the upcoming wedding. It is actually really great to have this kind of "small group" thread to communicate and chat ... probably can progress to child-rearing and other topics in future eh? (sorry, jumping wayyyy ahead!)

Hope to learn more via interaction with all the nice friends here.

 

[teng2]

Hi Sweets..

welcome to this thread
why not? by the time we start on child rearing topics...I wonder where the moderator, Chin Leng will be hhahahah

 

[cookies_gal]

Hi teng,

The instructions are in the "Help" section of this forum.

But let me try to show what I did. You can create tables here by typing the following &amp; voila! (removing the " with a \ where you see them). Use the Enter button to indicate that you want to start a new row on the table.

"table{Nickname,AD,HM Venue
cookie's gal, 18 Jun 05, St Andrew's Cathedral
Teng, 17 Dec 05, Foo Chow Methodist Church}

<table border=1><tr><td>Nickname</TD><TD>AD</TD><TD>HM Venue </TD></TR><TR><TD>cookie's gal</TD><TD> 18 Jun 05</TD><TD> St Andrew's Cathedral </TD></TR><TR><TD>Teng</TD><TD> 17 Dec 05</TD><TD> Foo Chow Methodist Church</td></tr></table>

 

[sweets]

Hello Teng,
wun be surprised that SB is still around...I started chatting in FBO 2 years ago and now many of my friends there are expecting or have already given birth to their first child already!!

 

[aimee]

Hi Cookie's gal &amp; Teng,
wah, seems like your wedding dates are still quite some time off...next year

Cookie's gal,
You have already finished your wedding preparation! *amazed*
So where's your new home? i believed you should have rom already to get your flat right?

It seems like to get married in Singapore, we need to book our wedding dates earlier and earlier liao...

 

[cookies_gal]

Hi Aimee,

No lah, haven't finished wedding prep yet. Lots of things to look into still.

BTW, I am trying to find the CD that contains the song "This is the Day" (slow version). Anyone here knows which CD has this song?

Yup, I have romed already. Got our pastor to conduct the solemnisation for us, that's why we have already attended the pre-marital counselling course.

My new home is in Sembawang. Renovations are starting in August. In fact, going to meet my ID tomorrow to confirm the final details like wall color &amp; exact dimensions for the carpentry.

I can't wait for the reno to be completed coz my room is an like an accident-prone zone right now. Have accumulated so much stuff over the years that I'm out of space! Doesn't help that whatever the 2 of us bought as a couple (with the intention of displaying them in our future house) over the years are all being kept in my room simply coz my room is bigger.

Thinking about this, isn't it amazing that we were so sure that we would eventually marry from the very initial stages of our relationship? In fact, my parents have been refering to my FH as their future son-in-law since we started - and he being my first bf! Now of course, it's son-in-law liao!

It's really God's Grace that both of us are so readily accepted by each other's family.

 

[fern]

Hi cookies,
One CD that has this song is called "15 Christian Wedding Favourites". I had that CD and i sold it away >1 month ago! Too bad huh...if not I can pass it to you...hope you can find it in major christian bookshops.

I remember your story about how your hubby led you into christ right? It must have been the grace of God that made your parents favor and trust him lor! So do you mind telling us how long you guys pak tor already? Must have a lot of barang barang collected in your room huh?

I remember when i first started dating my hubby (then BF) we also felt that we were destined to get married. 3months into the relationship, we were visualizing our dream home!

Good luck w the house!

 

[angelbb]

Hahaha! Heres mine!

<table border=1><tr><td>Nickname</TD><TD>AD</TD><TD>HM Venue </TD></TR><TR><TD>cookie's gal</TD><TD> 18 Jun 05</TD><TD> St Andrew's Cathedral </TD></TR><TR><TD>Teng</TD><TD> 17 Dec 05</TD><TD> Foo Chow Methodist Church </TD></TR><TR><TD>AngelBB</TD><TD> 3 April 04</TD><TD> NCC-cum-Holy Grace Presbyterian Church</td></tr></table>

Already married liao!

 

[huiling]

woah, what a long discussion on NCC!

)

I haVe not confirmed my church venue yet.

btw Lala Ooh, how is the flat at bt batok>?

 

[rokko]

here's mine!

<table border=1><tr><td>Nickname</TD><TD>AD</TD><TD>HM Venue </TD></TR><TR><TD>cookie's gal</TD><TD> 18 Jun 05</TD><TD> St Andrew's Cathedral </TD></TR><TR><TD>Teng</TD><TD> 17 Dec 05</TD><TD> Foo Chow Methodist Church </TD></TR><TR><TD>AngelBB</TD><TD> 3 April 04</TD><TD> NCC-cum-Holy Grace Presbyterian Church </TD></TR><TR><TD>rokko</TD><TD> 30 Jul 05 (TBC)</TD><TD> St Andrew's Cathedral</td></tr></table>

wah AngelBB congrats! already married liao hah?? hehee... so how's married life?

are you attending NCC or Holy Grace Presbyterian now?

 

[aimee]

Hi cookie's gal,
Hm...let me check out this song at home ok? May have the song

Wah, your new flat in sembawang...got it during the WIS?? me have alot of colleagues/friends staying there leh.
Better stop buying more things...cos eventually when you confirm the design and all, you may not want to display those items as they may look a little out of place?

Well, God really is amazing at how He brings couples together. For me and my hubby, we were in the same youth fellowship, but only started talking to each other when we just entered U. Then becos of some misunderstanding we did not talk for almost 3 years. We came together only after a short mission trip after our graduation...hahaha.

Hi AngelBB,
Just married a few months...so must still be in your honeymoon stage right?

Hi huiling,
when's your AD?

 

[cookies_gal]

Hi Fern,

Thanks for the tip, will keep a lookout at the bookstores then.

Let's see... we're approaching our 5th anniversary together this year. (Although this yr is a bit funny coz we are legally married). But we've been friends since we started uni. So, we've known each other for like 7 years now?

hi aimee,
Yup yup, got my flat during WIS. Interestingly enough, whatever we've bought before can all fit into our design theme. No worries about them looking out of place. It's as though all along, we had this subconscious idea of what our dream home would be like and now we finally have a chance to turn our dreams into reality.

 

[teng2]

ya..lala must be busy with the flat....haven't heard from her for quite some time liao...
talking abt flats...I went to look at those in Pinnacle-Duxton...really beautifully renovated though a bit small....and EXPENSIVE....

anyone went to have a look too?

Hi Aimee,

Thanks....will try again...by the way, we haven't really start on anything much..just confirmed the Bridal studio.... so came into this site to find out more...and began to be hooked....especially when you are involved in more and more threads...haiz...

but it also means, we get to make more and more friends

 

[huiling]

Hi aimee my AD should be on the 10th Dec 2005.

my church is Covenant EFC, but I'm not getting married in this church because of its location and its size.

Hi teng, I went to Pinnacle to take a look too. find it a refreshing concept, but yep yep it is ex. guess for the location, it may be worth it. i got cell group mates who ballot for it already. however i also feel that if one has the budget, any flat can be renovated nice nice

just that Pinnacle has the rooftop thingy that other flats don't

Hi lala, do update us about your flat. God is our provider.

 

[huiling]

BTW gals, think Fern is leaving soon. shall we have a gathering before she leaves?

 

[angelbb]

Hahaha! Thanks thanks! Hi rokko! Me attending NCC... Actually have always been at NCC, only that I wanted to Holy Matrimony at a church, and NCC is more like an auditorium that is not so suitable for Holy Matrimony, so have to source around for a church location - and chose Holy Grace lor! The HM at Holy Grace was solemnisaed by our NCC pastor and NCC worship team, so it's the location... but then, WAH! Really God blessed! It was the ONLY location I went to see, and I remembered praying for divine favour for Holy Grace to grant me the sanctuary as I stepped into the office to enquire... and when I went in, they actually were sooo nice to me to ask me which of the TWO sanctuaries we would like to use! WAH! The best part is, the church is located between mu hubby and my house! Really saved sooo much time for travelling! Wah! Really God knows best!

Hi aimee! Hahaha! Yah! Now enjoying the honeymoon stage... but with God in the relationship, every step is a honeymoon...

For us, we always try to remember, this marriage is only beautiful because of His beauty.... This marriage is only possible becos He provided...

And this marriage is not only important to us, but also important to Him too... cos it's a marriage between two of His sooo beloved children!

Wah! Seems like most of you are preparing for your wedding! Soo fun! You know, it gonna be a really enjoyable time as you prepare for the big day, especially when you get to see God's love in a totally different dimension! The way He's gonna be providing for you and holding your hands throughout the preps, MUST note down k! Me and my hubby noted down all the blessings and people He blessed into our lives as He put us in the right place at the right time... and sometimes we still take the notes out to see... wah... really can cry one leh...

 

[aimee]

Hi cookies,
checked and i have the CD at home. do you want to download the track from my PC at home? or want me to burn that track for you and send to you?
Are you going to use it for your wedding?

Hi Teng,
it's ok lah..can take your time to work out those things

So which bridal studio? Is the package getting more ex nowadays?
Yah, so nice to hv this thread to encourage and share...when it's my time, no such privilege to gather all the Christian brides tog in a forum.

Hi huiling,
you from CEFC?? that's the parent church of my ex-youth fellowship that i attended!
what a small world

If you are not using CEFC, then you'll need to source for another one? Have any in mind yet? i realised that most churches only let members use their grounds for HM...

Havent really been to Pinnacle. Just find that HDB's using it to earn returns from the younger couples when it price the flats at such high price for a small unit

Fern's leaving in Sep right? Dun think can join you all...cos going on maternity soon

Let me post an updated list:
<table border=1><tr><td>Nickname</TD><TD>AD</TD><TD>HM Venue </TD></TR><TR><TD>cookie's gal</TD><TD> 18 Jun 05</TD><TD> St Andrew's Cathedral </TD></TR><TR><TD>Teng</TD><TD> 17 Dec 05</TD><TD> Foo Chow Methodist Church </TD></TR><TR><TD>AngelBB</TD><TD> 3 April 04</TD><TD> NCC-cum-Holy Grace Presbyterian Church </TD></TR><TR><TD>rokko</TD><TD> 30 Jul 05 (TBC)</TD><TD> St Andrew's Cathedral </TD></TR><TR><TD>huiling</TD><TD> 10 Dec 2005</TD><TD> TBC</td></tr></table>

 

[fern]

Hello Girl RY, thanks for your suggestion, I think it is a good idea! I'm leaving first week of Sept, still got some time.

Right now I'm in the early stages of packing...it's really tough...afterall I've got more than 20 years worth of barang barang!

By the way, I'm selling my evening gown and tea dress. I have posted them under the marketplace thread. Do let me know if anyone of you are interested in viewing the pictures!

Thanks!

 

[fern]

Dear aimee,
I will pray that you have a smooth delivery. By the way, you expecting a baby boy or girl? May god bless you with a beautiful and healthy child.

Got any names already?

 

[aimee]

Hi Fern,
Expecting a bb boy

Thanks for remembering me in your prayers...always cant help but shudder when i think of the pains in delivery

Got a Christian name for my boy - Cheslon. But chinese name have yet to confirm still

 

[fern]

Aimee, dun worry, my auntie has a testified that her delivery was smooth and minimal pain because she kept praying and left it to God. I beleive it is possible.
Pain in childbirth was a curse on woman after Adam's fall, but we are children of grace and we can renouce that curse, and we dun have to fall under it.

I'm really curious and interested! Does Cheslon mean something and what is the surname? Sorry for being so KPO...

 

[angelbb]

Aimee, dun worry.

I've also heard of smooth delivery and minimal discomfort during childbirth... it is possible, becos Jesus has suffered and fully paid for all our pains...

One thing I read to prepare for childbirth, the what we feel are often discomfort... dont focus on the words labour pain, becos even medically, its known more as muscle contractions.... also, one consolation I always give myself when I was watching animal planet... hahaha!

Even when cats and dogs and giraffes and elephants give birth, they dun scream their heads off right? Yes, discomfort we see that... but the scream-your-lungs-out-till-your-throat-explode screams? I don't see....

It's only that the media has been "polluting" our minds that when we women give birth, we usually scream their lungs out... so I'm also believing God for smooth delivery...will be praying for you too!

Jia You!

 

[aimee]

Hi Fern,
It's inherent meaning is trust, spiritual connotation is dependent (comes from Prov 3:5-6). found it from a book we bought from Life

i've heard of sisters who went through a smooth delivery within just a few hours. So envy.
The verse above is also a reminder for me that we'll continue to trust in God as we had since day one of my conception

My husband's surname is Tan...so will be Cheslon Tan

Well, i always remind myself that the pain that i go through is much less than what my Lord went through when He suffered for my sins.
May that also become the encouragement for you gals (next time) also

Thanks once again for all your prayers!

 

[nicatan]

hi ladies,

bin busy so hvnt chk in for quite sum time...

hi angelbb,

wer's Holy GracE Pres. church?
need to source for a church as my church is also an auditorium.

 

[huiling]

hi i'm having alot of problem finding a place for solemnisation. where is Holy Grace Pres church? does it give priority to members too? can you give me the church number? wd like to call up for enquiry

)

 

[angelbb]

hi nicatan &amp; huiling, Holy Grace Pres is at 408B Up East Coast Rd Singapore 466484, Tel: 6241 1154... I think they give priority to members... never ask them though..

Also, you can try Bedok Methodist.... or Trinity Theological College at 490 Up Bt Timah Rd Tel : 6767 6677 if you prefer west...

 

[cherryade]

Hi all

so nice to find a thread for christian brides. I am having my wedding in december at fort canning. It will be outdoor and everyone thinks my Fiance and I are crazy but we believe the Lord does work in mysterious ways and hey it doesn't always rain in december

So do pray along with us that the weather will be kept at bay. Has anyone else here had any experience with outdoor weddings?

 

[laughing]

Hello everyone!

I've refrained from posting for a while as I'm trying to go cold-turkey to wean myself off this forum addiction! haha!

Syt and Girl ren yu, I am using Trinity theological college for my HM. Let me know if you need info. on it.

Juliana, Pinkapple had her wedding in fort canning too. Drop her a mail..she's really nice and helpful!

ok, to update everyone, I'm still flat hunting...*sigh* God help me!!