Any Mixed Marriages here? Esp Chinese-Malay Muslim couple

Hi everyone, been reading this thread always but first time posting. Can i check , during ur soleminsation, is it done in English or in Malay? Since your other half are of other race or foreigners. My FW is Chinese, not sure if i should say the vows in Malay or in English. If English, at least she will hear and understand... or should i say in both languages?
 


Hi Cuclainne, thanks for the reply. We will have to request for an English speaking kadi then? Let them know in advance right? thanks....
 
yes, if i'm not mistaken, the info is available on the ROMM website - which kadi can speak english so you will have to make a request when you register your marriage.
 
my fh has gone thru with the conversion ceremony. Allhamdullilah. now we are rushing the wedding plans.

quick questions for the experienced ones:

can the entire ceremony be done in english? or is it just the solemnization part thats done in english? my future in-laws and some of his aunties and uncles will be attending the solemnization so preferbly everything should be in english right?

My uncle asked us to take one of our family friend, Ustaz Abdul Manaf, as the Kadi. Anyone engaged him before?
 
the entire ceremony was over in a jiffy, now when i look back at it. i can't really remember if it was all in english but i do know that the solemnization part was .. my mother-in-law and her husband was also present - to me, the solemnization part was the most important out of the ceremony so as long as they were able to understand that part, we were ok with it ..

btw, congrats on your pending nuptials
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Hi, everybody.
I'm new here. I'm Eurasian, and my bf is Muslim Singaporean. I converted already, but we have not started planning the wedding yet. The date not set yet, maybe it'll happen in 1 year, maybe later.
It's totally new experience for me, and frankly speaking I have no idea how much money it will take. Anybody can give any estimated budget overall for a wedding for around 500-600 people?

Those are all gonna be his relative and friends. my family is not here, and I'm planning to bring only my parents, nobody else. Also, maybe a few people from my workplace, but those are all in "minority".
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Majority are going to be Malay Singaporeans. I think we gonna held it in a void deck, because I personally want to cut expenses on the wedding, and spend more for the house later. That's more important for me.

so, if anybody here had a wedding recently, can you let me know what budget should I estimate?

thanks in advance.
 
huh. me again.
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have been reading all these enormose thread, and it made me even more confused.
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dunno where to start from.
plus, our wedding date is not set. that is because we were planning to get a house first, then decide with the wedding. However, I'm a foreigner, so must get PR first... and it will take a few more month... I applied before, but got rejected. so, apply again in 1 month... if reject again, then time wasted...
anyway, here is another question - how long in advance should I start planning the wedding - one year or half of the year is enough?

what do you think? (also, I'm alone here, so my family cannot help. and my boyfriend doesn't have time for all this stuff, so looks like I will need to do it all alone.
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Hi, am new here and have a few questions. My fiance and I are both Australian residents. We intend to get legally married in Australia (makes the most sense as we have our friends and immediate family here), however, my mum would like us to have a ceremony in Singapore (where she's from and has some extended family there) -

if we're already legally married in Australia, is it possible to have a nikah ceremony in Singapore without signing a marriage certificate?

Also, can we have the ceremony in english?

and finally, what would the procedure be considering that my fiance is not muslim? Would he have to legally convert and how long will that take? We are hoping to be in Singapore for no longer than a week and will have to organise most things via internet.

Thanks heaps in advance!
 
hi sharm, i think you're referring to the sanding, and not the nikah.

if you're getting married in australia, then you can just have a sanding event where all the relatives come and eat. if you want a proper ceremony, then you have to sign the marriage cert here. for the nikah, it is possible to have the ceremony done in english.

for the kadi to do the nikah ceremony for you, he will have to convert otherwise it's a civil marriage and they don't do that. he can convert in australia and then you will just need to get the conversion cert endorsed by MUIS here. plus you need to go for MPC (marriage preparation course) beforehand.

so i think in your case, to avoid the hassle, just get married in australia and have sanding event for relatives.
 
Hi cuclainne,

Thanks so much for your reply. Was great help! Just wondering if Kadis in Singapore act personally or is there an association that I contact? I'd just like to ask them a few more questions.

Thanks heaps
 
you can get the contact numbers from the romm (registry of muslim marriages) website .. just google for romm and you'll have the site.
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Hej all,
I have question to ask. My FH is foreigner and im now still int he foreign country studying and coming back soon. We plan to get hitched in october. The problem is how do i go about ROMM. he will come to sg to be solemnised but we cant even book a solemnistion date cos he does not have endorsed conversion muslim card yet.

Also am on tight budget. How to find good wedding dinner place thats not expensive? Hes swedish and his parents will come too and we will have to find aircon place. I do not need an extravagant wedding just simple will do. Cuclainne, I have sent you a pte message also.

tack
 
hej damsel

i've replied to your pm.

i left the wedding lunch to my parents so we did the traditional void-deck wedding but we also had a mini-wedding dinner get-together with my family, his family and friends only so it was a quiet, cosy do. i know the concept of inviting 1,500 guests (standard for malay weddings) is a bit daunting and bewildering to the foreigners .. my husband also wondered about logistics ie sitting for 1,500 guests until i explained to him that not everyone will come at the same time!
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Oh, I'm so glad this thread is still alive.
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Also have got a small question to those who registered in ROMM recently.

How did you make a booking? How much in advance did you have to do it?

the reason why I ask is because recently I've been on ROMM website trying to book solemnization date, and to my surprise it looks like all dates from now to almost end of october are taken! I didn't know that ROMM can be that busy!
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Maybe that's because I have only a choise of 4 Kadis, not 28 or more, as for others, because I'm a foreigner, and don't have a Wali. So, can be solemnized only by Kadi who is gonna be my Wali as well... (fuf, confusing.
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I've contacted ROMM (so far via email) but didn't receive any reply yet.
 
Hi Julia,

Have you set a date for ur wedding day or are you taking whichever date that is available?

Maybe you and fiance could go down to ROMM and talk to the person over the counter about your situation. This is what I did. We wanted to book 150 days before but but my wife wasnt a convert then. Waited till she converted only 3 weeks before the wedding.

When i tried to book online, i realised that only 4 Naib Kadis can solemnise us and none were available on our date. I panicked (our wedding was in 3 weeks) and went down to ROMM and spoke to a guy over the counter. He was assuring and told me to come down with my bride-to-be the next day. I asked him what if there is no one to solemnise us that day. He assured me that everything will go well, Insyallah.

Indeed everything went well. Went down the next day with all our documents. A lady helped us fill up the forms online. We got a Naib Kadi to solemnise us. Went for a brief interview and everything was done within 2 hours. A big sigh of relief.
 
Hey, im_24, thank you so much for the information!

my situation is that we haven't planned exact date when we want to solemnize yet, but planed to do it in a few month from now. And then I went to the website I saw that there are only 4 kadis and none is available for the next 5 month! I was shocked!
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I was ready to take whichever date is available....

but the info you gave is very useful. Thanks. Will follow your advise.
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hi all.. i have some questions. wondering if anyone can help? I am going to book for a date to do the conversion. I am not sure about the evaluation though. can't seem to find any info at the darul arqam website about this. when will the evaluation take place? need to book for that also? hoping to get the conversion card to get soon so can book date for nikah. also, is it a must to get a muslim name or like the website says, not to choose "any names that are associated with names of idols or names that are distasteful and demeaning"?

thanks.. seems daunting.. haiz.
 
You are welcome Julia. So just go down and check with them. Better than waiting for emails etc..

Tikkles, The evaluation for my wife took place just before the conversion process... i don't think there is a need to book.You can check w the person when booking the conversion date. Yeah, you do need a Muslim name although it is not compulsory to include it into ur identity card. Maybe can get your future spouse to help u choose one.. thru the website. Choose a name that u like.
 
Tikkles,

that's right. Same as im_24 says evaluation is very easy and takes about 5-10 mins max. You will be asked very simple questions, and even if you are not sure of something or forget some names it's ok.
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for me, we (me and 4 witness) came and registered first. Then the lade at the counter asked to us wait. In about 5 mins she asked me to go to a separate room alone. There was an old lady-examinator, who asked me all those simple questions. When finished we both left the room. And in about 10 mins more all of us were asked to go to the same room again for convertion procedure. This took quite a while, because the person who did conversion was very talkative and he actually repeated almost the whole convertion course!
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it took about 1 hour. He asked me questions, and then answered them himself, without waiting for any answer...
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so, anyway, finally they prayed and then I read the shahada and that's it!
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it's really very simple, don't worry.
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julia, thanks for the reassurance!!
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my conversion is on this thurs and after that i have to rush off back to work! my HTB is not very pleased about that but i have no choice. haiz. now trying to learn the declaration by heart. thank you so much for explaining the procedure.
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Hello ladies, could anyone kindly advise where I could purchase plain colours with simple and elegant design headscarfs (Tudong, I guess?) Want to purchase a few for a very good girlfriend or mine. She's a teacher (in a primary school), so nothing fanciful or with lace for her... Thanks in advance.

If anyone has any to sell, kindly email me the pictures and price at [email protected]

Sincere Thanks,
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Dunno if this thread is still alive...but wanna ask if anyone has any recommendation for a halal caterer to do my wedding dinner. Guest list is about 200, and I am interested to have it at ACM. I have looked at Rasel and some others but think it's a tad too expensive. I don't mind having Western or North Indian food. My day function will already have Malay/South Indian food so need something different for the night.
Any ideas?
 
Hi Farah, I was active in here in 2004 - 2006 when planning my own wedding which coincidently was held at ACM so when you mentioned your wedding is to be there, it brought back good memories of our wedding day.

We engaged Istana Wedding Services and had a malay/indian and a "modern" cuisine. Istana has done a few western style reception and cocktail so you can ask them what they can do for you. We were really picky about food so Istana came through for us - alhamdulillah.

I don't pop by much so if there's anything else you need to know, please PM me instead so that I can reply via email.
 
Hi, I need help.. I am a Chinese Muslim. But I need to divorce. Anyone can help ? how long it takes and what are the procedures ?
 
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum so pls excuse any faux pas
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I'm Malay and my hubby-to-be is a Chinese, and we're planning for a Dec wedding this year.

Anyone else out there with the same "timeline"?
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hi all,im new here too. any idea how to book sultan mosque for akad nikah? I couldn't seem to find any online booking URL...help!
 
Hi Aaminah

You can give them a call to find out more. I initially wanted to have my nikah ceremony at Masjid Sultan too (so beautiful!) but have changed my mind. You can book the space anytime by booking with the office.
 
Hi All

ANyone marrying to a european and the european gonna convert to islam?

Anyone had any difficulty?

Can we wear gown for nika? if we have sleeves and must we cover till our neck?
 
Hi all, I'm a Chinese convert and so is my HTB.
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Jun, I think you can wear your gown provided your arms and neck area is covered. I believe your head has to be covered too.

I have a bolero with my wedding gown but it's not going to be modest enough for nikah..so I'm wearing an Indian style dress that goes up to the neck and with a dupatta to cover my head.
 
I will have bolero for my gown which i want to wear for my nikah..

my evening gown will not have bolero..

In ROMM FAQ
What to Wear
Formal attire or customary wedding gowns. Couples, Wali and witnesses in tee shirts, jeans, shorts, bermudas shorts and slippers and Wali and Witnesses adorning gold jewelleries will not be accepted by the Registry.

Probably going to call and ask..
 
I called, they said.. cover the aurat..
i asked them if the veil is covering, will that be ok?

They keep saying as long as it is covering, it is ok..

never give a straight answer..
 
Is ur veil see through? By right covering your aurat would mean only showing your face and hands only. Covering means not even see-thru materials will do.. But I've seen brides with slightly see-thru sleeves. I guess it's your call in the end, everyone has their own level of comfort in terms of following His instructions.

I see the nikah as being the most significant ceremony.. So playing it safer.. Wearing my wedding gown to dinner instead!
 
May: where did you get your indian wear?

Anyone can recommend KADI who does mixed marriages and can nikah in english?
 
Jun: Hmm i'm not sure..that was how my neck was going to show initially too..but told cannot. So i rather cover up. I havent got my Indian style dress..but getting it made. hope it will be good..it's from Zaina.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/DESIGNER-SHALWAR-KAMEEZ-ZAINA/238371810564?v=photos&sb=4

I sent Mrs Fairuz the design I like and she quoted me a price...you can customise too. I'm keeping mine under $400.
And doing more of a dress so i can wear in future.

And my Kadi has been doing marriages for converts, so probably quite a lot of fixed ones. He's doing ours in English.

What's your email? I'll send you his contact.
 
Hi May

Thanks for your reply. You know, yesterday i went to do research.. Alot of malay bride did not cover their head. they just put the transparent scarf over their head.. anyway, i thought of not spending $600 for my bolero..

Gonna check out Inai Bridal to rent kebaya!!!!!! hahha.. they said about $150 for complete nikah set! don't wanna spend alot of money..

I asked my friend who got married, she said nothing busty or sleeveless.. just a scaft of the head..

The shop MENU at selegi is having sales for lengga.. maybe you wanna try there.. Will you be wearing qipao?
my email is [email protected].


I have a question, just curious.. you mention you are chinese convert.. what make you believe in islam?

My HTB is going to convert in april. we are going for the marriage course in april too. have you done that?
 
Oh wow! $150 for the whole nikah set? Including groom? Hmm maybe I should check that out first! I'll google them tonight.

Ha.. I'm based in London ATM.. Coming back to get married. So unfortunately won't be able to take advantage of the sales! But I don't want a proper Indian dress anyway.. Already have enough at home. So looking more for a long sleeve maxi dress in that style. Not wearing qipao too..

As for your question.. I'll mail u tonite with the kadi contact
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Nikah set for the bride except make up. As i got my gown from amanda lee and that include make up..

Wow what are you doing in london.. Cool..

I could be moving to UK after married.. currently on long distance relationship..

he is getting his tux in UK.. cheaper there..
 
I checked out inai bridal on their Facebook but hard to see everything they have. Maybe I'll call them.

Did u find any others that rent nikah sets?

Haha my HTB got his whole set of clothes done in Singapore because it was cheaper! But maybe because it wasn't a tux. Suit plus shirt and waistcoat.

I'm living and working in London! HTB lives here. And I have been here for almost 7 years! Ha we can hook up when u come here if u want! Yeah LDR is hard but I think u are doing well!

Anyway sorry I haven't written to u.. Was busy last nite. Will do it now!
 
hi peeps!

just wanna ask, my mom has been nagging at me to get the Kadi settled but when I went to the ROM website, the max time given to solemnize after registeration is 150 days?

she has been telling me that some of our relatives have already book theirs for a December wedding and some couldn't find any Kadi because it was fully booked, etc.

Now I'm confused. Are there other avenues to get a Kadi other than the ones listed by ROM? My wedding will be in December this year. Or is my mum just doing the scare tactics? haha
 
thx Jun.

wow~~! I didn't know that. According to the ROM website, they say we can only book the kadi when when we have the registry of marraige form ready..

yikes! ok thanks for the info!
 
u know ROMM is really bad..
i had to call the KADI to clarify my queries..

they super sucks.. they even ask my cousin and her bf to register at ROM if they think ROMM too troublesome.. how can they say such things.. we need their help as they are the expert but they seems to be not friendly or helpful to help us..
 
My fiance is a foreigner and due to his work commitments he can only come here for the nikah hence we will not sit for the Marriage Preparation Course. I'm leaving Spore a day after our ROMM ceremony.

Will they refuse our ROMM if we exclude the course? Or will they hold the marriage cert until we complete the course?

Anyone can enlighten me on this?
 


Hi Nona

Few things:

You need to have the marriage course certificate. You might want to ask ROMM. They need you to show during your interview session.

Are you aware that you need to go for interview 5 weeks before your actual wedding date? Unless you have some special arranagement but also need 2 weeks in advance from your wedding date.

Your Fiance also need a letter from his country that he is single in his country..

When i ask ROMM if my fiance can come earlier or later for the interview like interview before register or 1 week before the wedding for the interview. They said NO to me and ask me to arrange my own timing wisely.

You are not allow to go interview by yourself. You, Your Fiance and Your Wali must be present during the interview.
 

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