Any Mixed Marriages here? Esp Chinese-Malay Muslim couple

[maybebabe]

Hi Nona

Just to add on to jun's comments

The marriage course can be completed after and yes they will hold on to your cert. There is a one day express course you can do but they have fixed timings.

If you cannot make any of the timings, you can call MUIS to see if they'll make special arrangements for you.

Where is your fiancé from? Certain countries require certificate of no impediment, some letter of no trace or a letter signed in the presence of a solicitor.

The best thing to do is call ROMM and check all these with them in detail.

 

[sinkb4iswim]

Thanx Jun and May. I just spoke to a fren who married an Irish last year. She registered with ROM for a civil marriage and the system triggered ROMN who sent her a letter for discussion with regards to marriage outside Islamic obligation. She told them that she need to leave spore immediately hence the reason she apply for civil marriage just to get a certification that they are legally married outside Ireland and with that she can then enter Ireland and apply Indefinite Leave to Remain in Ireland. She also told them that they will nikah in a mosque in Ireland. After much nego over the phone,ROMM relented and told her to endorse her bf conversion cert produced in Ireland and to come down to their office with her wali. Both of them did not sit in for the marriage preparation course or produce a status declaration letter fm his country either. Great isn't it. Btw, my fiance is a British national, a fren of my former boss.

I think I will have to call a Kadi on this before going to ROMM office. Fyi, we've already nikah in the UK mosque but without wali and the Moslem Marriage Cert is not recognise in the UK unless we go civil. This was done as we try to prevent unnecessary acts out of wedlock to happen. However, my family insisted that we hold our nikah and wedding ceremony here with the present of the wali.

If ROMM refused our application, then we will have to register for civil marriage in the UK since we've already nikah. Maybe just hold a sanding for my relatives here in spore.

Pray for my success girls! thanx once again.

 

[maybebabe]

Hey Nonna

InsyaAllah hope all goes well for you..it all sounds so confusing! ;D

You've already done your nikah in UK, so really in God's eyes you're married. I'm not familiar with how you can go about but it seems you have a couple of options.

my fiance and Jun's are based in UK too...maybe we'll see you here when you've moved!

 

[junio]

Hi Nonna

That good.. you already nikah.. Why don't you just register your married in UK itself..

UK muslim marriage is like ROM then go to the mosque by your own and official nikah under the islam eyes..

ROMM will ask if you have already nikah in UK or ROM in UK because they will have to treat it differently.. The Kadi did ask me if i have ROM in UK as he will need to know if he need to handle differently..

You can only ROM in a country..

ROMM in SG is really making life difficult unless u are pregnant! They try to cover up for muslim pregnant before marriage..

ROMM website said pregnant cannot get married.. I got to know my neighbour friend is pregnant and getting married to her bf..

Yes UK don't recognise Nikah.. they only recognise ROM.

I also have hard time with ROMM.. I email MCYS due my dad case and they transfer me to the ROMM administrator who then allow me and my mom to go for interview without my partner.. I need to bring that email in order to enter ROMM.

I think you tell kadi that you already nikkah in UK without Wali and show the cert.. They will treat u differently..

 

[sinkb4iswim]

Aiyooo I dun u'stand why are they making it so diff for muslim to get marry in Spore? It's all abt $$$, courses lah, our parents dun go thru courses and they lasted till their last breath. These days with MP course, the newly wed couple lasted less than a year! LOL

 

[maybebabe]

I agree and i disagree! in our parents' time divorce was a last resort; and people were less likely to get themselves into the situation of having to marry because of pregnancy and deciding they want a divorce after. at the same time, im not sure having a compulsory course does much to change the situation.. and they are so expensive!

 

[ubian_gal]

i to all

Would like to seek some advice on solemnization of Muslim wedding. My fiance is Chinese muslim and I am converting by this year. I know that the witnesses of the wedding have to be muslim, but would it possible for my non muslim parents to participate in the ceremony too? Has anyone got similar experiences earlier? Thanks!

 

[junio]

Ubian_Gal: Yes your parent can attend the ceremony. However, they cannot be the witness on the certificated.

The ceremony invite the muslim and non muslim.

May: yes it is expensive! to be honest, i learn nothing from darul marriage course. It is so boring and waste of money.

 

[maybebabe]

Ubian gal.. I'm a Chinese convert too and so is my fiancé. Yes our parents can attend our ceremony. That's what we're doing. We have a lot of overseas non Muslim guests too and they will be witnessing our nikah as well!

Jun.. I know! I just hope we don't have to do the express class due to timings. Twice the price.

 

[cuclainne]

wow.. a lot of newcomers keeping this thread alive

i didn't know that some things have changed since i got married about 5 years ago. at the time, they said we have to go for marriage prep course but they didn't ask to see it even.

my husband was also overseas at the time, so they conducted my interview together with my father first. a week before our wedding, my husband had relocated and had his interview with them.

i had my nikah done at home

 

[junio]

cuclainne : Is your husband local singaporean?

 

[cuclainne]

Nope, my husband is Swedish - I am Malay. Most of the ladies from this thread has migrated to FB

 

[junio]

really ah.. FB where? hahaha
is there a group of something like that?

are u now in sg or sweden or elsewhere..

 

[cuclainne]

I am living in Singapore with the husband and our two girls. There is another thread in here for couples with ang-mo husbands - practically everyone from that thread is on FB and yes, we have created a closed group for talk2 in there. I am the only one from that thread that hasn't moved from Singapore

Are you in Singapore too?

 

[junio]

Currently in Singapore.. Will move to UK after married.

 

[cuclainne]

Oh i see

Busy with the planning?

 

[junio]

Yeah.. very busy..

 

[cuclainne]

Poor you .. but just a few more months to go, right? And then it'll be over and you will be embarking on a lifelong journey with your spouse

 

[junio]

yeah... but 4month left is scary!! seems like it is going to be a breeze..

I wonder how can i plan the dinner style to be able to minggle around with my guest!

 

[cuclainne]

where are you going to have your dinner? i planned to have a somewhat big do for dinner but in the end, we just had a small gathering for about 15 family and friends in a restaurant and that was great!!

 

[junio]

royal plaza @ scott.. that is the wedding dinner reception

 

[sinkb4iswim]

Jun, have u apply for Leave To Enter UK? Or u r going to apply Leave To Remain when ur oredi in the UK? Care to share how do u go abt to apply for it? Tx

 

[junio]

Nonna: what is Leave to enter UK? I will have to apply for spouse visa. Hope my spouse visa application will be successful.

I am currently in sg.

Are you in UK or Sg?

 

[sinkb4iswim]

Hi Jun, its an entry clearance so u wont be stopped by the UK immigration. Especially when u book on a one wat ticket. They r vr strict now coz too many settlers bringing in relatives n frens to live in the UK. R u going to apply fm spore or when ur in the UK? I know there is only one appointed agent in spore that act on behalf of UK Border Immigration. Im back in spore now.

 

[junio]

Nonna: I will be applying in Singapore for Spouse visa.. With my marriage certificate, i believe that i can only allow for spouse visa right? correct me if i am wrong..

i just did a google.. After you have lived legally in the UK for a certain length of time, you may be able to apply for permission to settle here. This is known as 'indefinite leave to remain'.

Your right to apply for settlement will depend on your current immigration category. You should read the section for your category (in Working in the UK, Partners and family members or Asylum) to find out whether and when you can currently apply for settlement.

Therefore, it does not apply to me. I am not living in UK.

are you going to get married in Singapore? How to bring friend or aunt or uncle or cousin to uk? is that even possible?

 

[junio]

If you and your husband, wife or civil partner have been living together outside the UK for four years or more, and you meet all the necessary requirements to stay permanently in the UK, you may be granted indefinite leave to enter. These requirements include showing that you have the necessary level of knowledge of the English language and life in the UK (see relevant section of this guidance for more information).


Nonna: Are you already married?

 

[missdi]

Hi,

I'm facing a problem here as my fiance and i have already booked a date for our solemnization and done our interview at ROMM and now we need to change our solemnization date to May instead of February next year. My fiance will only be here a week before our actual wedding date.

1. Do we still need to go for the interview at ROMM again if we change the date of our solemnization?

or

2. We can just change the date of our solemnization via online?

or

3. We have to submit a new application?

Regards
Di

 

[junio]

1. Do we still need to go for the interview at ROMM again if we change the date of our solemnization?

YES. need to go for another interview. It will be treated as new application.

or

2. We can just change the date of our solemnization via online?
More than 150 days, you will need to submit new application
or

3. We have to submit a new application?
Yes

 

[Crystalanne]

Hallo everyone,
i'm Chinese wif a malay muslim BF. Need lotsa advice for planning of preparations for a Mixed-culture weddings. Anyone in similar cases like me? Pls advise!

my AD will b this coming sept.................
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Collecting of Nikah Baju by end of feb
Confirmation of rings by March
Need to finalized Reception clothes by April…
Book ROMM date ON 9 April
ROMM interview after confirmation of booking
Pay another downpayent for the deco team
My void deck booking is due in May.
Berkat have to be ordered by June
Bridal shoes to b bought in June
My pre-wedding shoot is roughly in June
I need to start re-designing my room!!! (PAINT AND FURNITURE!)
Invitation cards printing in June.
Mailing out of Cards by July
DIY projects to b completed in June.
Tea ceremony preps with my maternal side By july/aug?
Still need to plan a meeting with the people involved!

any more things i need to note?

 

[mummy_of_two]

hey ladies, i have a question. I am a soon to be mother of two. i already married for nearly 1year. im a muslim and my husband is a chinese christian (non-convert). We register our marriage at ROM. Non of my family knew im married. To make it official, my husband wants us to re-register at ROMM after his conversion. is it possible?