Annulment or Divorce?

icequeenie

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Hi all,
I had been thinking for awhile before deciding to post this for advice.
We romed last October and just had our customary last week.
Things changed since after ROM actually. We started arguing and fighting over alot alot of issues, even simple ones.

Not only that, now my parents also cannot stand the way he do and say things and dislike him. To me, my parents’ blessing is very important to me. Hence, our relationship eventually drifted.

Not long later, I realized that I am pregnant. If not for the pregnancy, I doubt he will even want to go thru the customary with me as he is a divorcee and thus he cannot be bothered with another customary and wedding dinner as it would cost him money. Initially his mum sided him and acted like they dont want the dinner as (like i said, he's a divorcee) thus his mum says that they do not want to invite any relatives. But my dad insisted on the customary and wedding dinner as i'm the eldest daughter. (I almost quarrelled with my dad coz of this too, coz i really tot that they didnt want the customary and dinner due to he's a divorcee.)
So when my dad insisted, he asked me,'Why ur dad must insist on these? He want to earn all the ang bao money is it?!"
I believe u all can guess how i feel. How could he say such things abt my parent?! I was so angry and really hated him to the core!

However my parent insists that we go thru customary and dinner cos of our bb, even thou i did not want to! (They have not seen thru his true colours when they ask us to have our customary.)

Out of no choice and for bb sake, i have to go thru customary with him.
Can you imagine we argued at every single thing? I must admit that sometimes PMS do get into my head but why cant he as a husband understand we pregnant woman can be quite temperamental?

Anyway so much so until I decided not to tok about anything on the wedding, i did not bother abt any little thing about the wedding, not even my gown, the restaurant etc, simply EVERYTHING.

Soon, I realized he actually is not really not keen to go thru this wedding. For the simple reason that during the wedding dinner, his family n him were nowhere to be seen when all my relatives start coming in to the restaurant. It's like they totally cannot be bothered!

N my parents have a hard time answering to my relatives and friends when they were asking where's the groom and the in-laws? (Even i'm the bride and i'm pregnant, i'm also have the courtesy to go out entertaining all the relatives and friends, even though i do not have to!)

Why does he make me go thru these agony? He don’t want to ‘recognize’ me as part of his family?

Even right after the wedding dinner, i found him shouting at my mother and i was so damn pissed off about that. Even his mum, without finding out what happen, shouted at my mother, thus i lose my control and shouted back at his mother too. Only his dad is the only reasonable person and keep apologising to my dad and mum. Tell me, how can i live with this kinda person and his mum? Somemore i am preg, how can i take it?!

And during GDL, he did not even present the things that my parents request and not only that, the amount of 'ping jing' he gave can really make me feels that I am nothing in his heart.
He wouldn’t believe how heartbroken and angry my parents are towards his attitude and things he say and does.
This really sadden me alot. I really wonder why would I marry him in the first place?

And there are far more details to be elaborated here and even before the wedding (since dec till now), I did not stay with him and I DO NOT EVEN want to tok to him.

So now, I need to seek advice on whether can I request for an annulment for my marriage since its less than 1 year? How much will annulment cost? If I cant annul, can I seek divorce straight?

Please help me!!!
 


How many months r u pregnant? Everybody pls dun shoot me! Pls consider if u could abort! (unless u r ready to bring the baby up alone) Leave this man! Even if annulment is not granted, then head for divorce. RUN!!!
 
Hi just do it,

Previously i was so angry that i did tink of getting a abortion, however i did not as it would be very selfish of me. and the baby is innocent, i doesnt want to hurt it.
so no matter what i've decided to give birth to my bb, and i wont let bb suffer, coz i still can afford, with the help of my family.

Yeah i really cant wait to leave this man, i dont think u can even call him a man! He will not go thru the customary and dinner with me if i was not preg either. and b4 i know that i was preg, we were ardy having issues and i ardy went back my own home to stay.
 
Ya bb is innocent.
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I think the fault lies with this man.
 
Please leave him.

Regarding abortion, it's your own decision. But, please leave him. Or you'll live the rest of your life in hell.
 
Yes i've ardy decided to leave him. My parents also agreed.

But the thing is my dad is kinda traditional, he even wants me to go back to that person's hse(sorry i just feel so disgusted even by calling him my husband) coz my dad said, at least he did arrange the wedding dinner which they have requested and we should do things the proper way by going back to his place, also his dad keep on apologising to our family.. so my dad doesnt want to owe their family any reasons, but my dad also said that in the event either that person or his mum bully me, my dad ask me to simply go back home.

Omg. i reali almost fainted when i heard this.
Why shld i go to that person's hse to be tortured? Everytime i tink of going back to his house i felt so angry that i really want to cry!!

That's why i want to know if i can annul the marriage? Coz with baby involved, i dont tink it's easy, and somemore, i think that person wouldnt consent to the annulment! ARgghhhh...
 
Yes, you should leave him.

he does not honour you as his wife, not even on your wedding night. but i don't understand - you got pregnant before or after ROM?
 
sounds really terrible...on one hand i feel sorry for you on the other hand i have so many questions like why you agreed to married him etc.

but i guess now everything is done so you have to move on. i don't think you can annul the marriage because you are pregnant, and in the eyes of law that means you have consumated the marriage.

so the only way out is divorce - and you need his agreement, if not you have to go into seperation for like 2-3 years.

as much as you hate it, you still need to discuss this with him...
 
hi flyingstar,
i agreed to marrying him as things wasnt lidat b4 our rom.. all these shit only happens after the rom.. and i was truly disappointed and reali regreted like hell.
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i've read that if divorce without his consent, i'd have to file for 4yrs seperation.. but if i apply for this seperation of 4 yrs, i still need to discuss with him?? I dont even want to talk to him.. definitely end up quarrelling.. no point.
 
ice queenie,

I am a bit sceptical that your hb can change so fast.. not unless he is hiding intentionally.

But what to gain by hiding his real character and then revealing it after rom? Unless you are some rich woman that he want to hook up to and then gain to benefit by marrying you?

Most people actually show their true self. Sometimes we are too blind when we are in love. Am not saying it is not possible but when a couple no longer can live with each other - don't push the blame on the other party. Unless there is clear-cut case of cheating and lying...
 
hi ice queenie,

i think the website given by Doll tells you everything that you need to know. if you seperate for 4 years, no need to have his consent. consult a lawyer who can give you better advice.

i really wish you well - it is really very disheartening to go through divorce so soon after the marriage, and to go through it with a bb coming. take care of yourself.
 
"i've read that if divorce without his consent, i'd have to file for 4yrs seperation.. but if i apply for this seperation of 4 yrs, i still need to discuss with him?? I dont even want to talk to him.. definitely end up quarrelling.. no point."

No need to file for separation now. Just live separately. When three years are over perhaps you can check with him if he is willing to divorce. If yes, then you start divorce proceedings. If not, then you wait another year for the separation to reach four years before you start the paperwork.
 
your mistake was to forced the wedding on an very reluctant partner...the next mistake was to keep the baby as it has tied you to the man for the rest of your life...at some point of he wants to make things difficult, he can demand custody, probably at the instigation of his mother..
 
clipperjunk,
guess u need to read properly, is the guy side wans the wedding, not the lady side...
 
Ice Queenie: Sorry to hear of your plight. Doll has provided you a useful link. I don't think you can annul the marriage unless you are able to prove that he is suffering from an illness which is unknown to you before the marriage. Like what Doll has advised you, you should commence a 4 yrs separation and proceed with the divorce proceedings at the 4th yr. You don't even have to talk to him in one way or another in this way, his consent is not required.
 
clipperjunk: "the next mistake was to keep the baby as it has tied you to the man for the rest of your life" - TS intends to keep the baby not for the tying relations but she feel that the baby is innocent and she is keeping it even if she left the man. Is this the mistake caused by her alone? IF the man take certain precautions, no accidents of such will have happen. And if the man doesn't think of starting a family, why rom in the first place? And who decide if the baby should be aborted? I think I admire her courage to protect and the intention to bringing up her baby.
 
I'm miserable too...We just got married last Dec and i found that my husband betrayed me again. I am really depress...like dying..He is a nice man in front of me but just don't know why he has that habit..I forgave him again and again before we get married, hoping he can change..but now i'm the one who suffer..can i file for annulment? any good lawyer to recommend..?in fact, i am so in love with him...but how can i tolerate this?...heart dying...so pain...
 
Michelle, sad to say but the word again means that he has done it more than once or perhaps twice... do u still wan to wait?

hmm... how much is your budget?
 
Michelle, I believe your husband will cooperate with you if he is also for annulment. First step is to talk to him and find out his views.
 
no idea what is the cost? just discover and he is overseas now..he is coming back soon and i am going to confront him...of course for lawyer cheap and good one is the best la..any idea how much it cost?give me the contact can? thanks..
 
My contacts charges about S$3K plus... that is for non-contested divorce... not too sure if the rate applies for annulment.
 
You can't divorce immediately because your marriage is not yet three years old. It's not time to talk about legal fees for divorce now.

You can't annul the marriage without his due cooperation. I suggest that you talk to him first.
 
Can, I think, if your spouse is already married to someone else, or if you are not aware that your spouse is suffering from an STI or mental illness at the time of marriage.
 
hmm..i thought i saw someone saying the lawyer can just bluff the courts to grant the annulment? faint..why is that so costly and yet the victim need to pay for it..anyway, please pm me the contact. thanks..
 
I suppose you can tell the court that the marriage was never consummated, but your husband must agree to go on this reason.
 
If you and your husband sing the same tune that the marriage was never consummated, no one would question further and you are not required to prove whether the marriage was indeed consummated or not. The court will take your word for good. You only need to find a lawyer willing to take on your case.

Anyway, there is no victim in marriage unless you are physically abused. Besides, you went in to the marriage knowing that he had cheated on you before. Anyway, seeing yourself as the victim won't help you. Better devote efforts to resolve your problem.
 
the best way is to sit down to agree to divorce amicably. Like that both parties save on legal costs.

what I know is, the lawyers like to encourage their client to fight this fight that. Each letter from the lawyer cost money..so bear in mind.

Ideally both should sit down and talk things over, agree on what to give and the amounts before seeing the lawyer so that the process is short and brief. No point making a sad event more agonising.

As for Queenie, important now is the bb, I hope you will keep it and if you really don't want it - give it up for adoption. Don't abort it please. it has nothing to do with this predicament.

It will be stressful for you but do face it calmly. I am surprised that he did not show his true colors until marriage. But since things have turned out this way, you have to face it. Attempt to talk to him calmly regarding the arrangements - in order to save legal costs - I hope he know (after having come through one divorce before) and not make things ugly.

All the best - and remain calm for the baby...
 
"As for Queenie, important now is the bb, I hope you will keep it and if you really don't want it - give it up for adoption. Don't abort it please. it has nothing to do with this predicament."

If you were the baby, would you choose to be given birth to and given away for adoption, or would you rather not be born?

I'd choose the latter if I could make a choice as a baby in such a situation.
 
Since Giantemu touched on adoption, just felt compelled to say that it is not a solution at all for people who are not sure about a baby.
 
sorry...must have misread the part about keeping the baby....glad that TS decide to keep the unborn child.

I am pro-life...so if I am the baby I would choose not to be created...if sperm never meets egg...it would not come to this stage.
 
Keeping a baby or aborting it is a personal decision... best left to the mother.

We have gone through it so many times here.. like religion, it is just not something we can impose upon others.. whatever we believe. We have to respect others
 
BTW,
Can any kind soul explain to me what's the meaning of TS? I know refers to the person who post...but why TS?
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Seriously right now, if he dont get out of my life, i'd rather abort the baby.. He keep coming to my place to bother my parent, and giving alot of prob to my dad.. Making my dad always cant sleep at night as he worry for me.. It makes me feel damn bad too..

Everyday i've been angry then sad then keep crying.. which is ardy not healthy for my baby..Why would i want to bring a 'unhealthy' baby into the world and make it suffer??

My parents actually asked me to fogive him for baby's sake. And they ask me to think if i reali want my baby to be without father in future.
But i'd rather my baby have no father than to have this man as the father.
OR I'd rather abort my baby than to be with this kinda man. U can say i am selfish or wadsoever, but i dont want my baby to suffer with this kinda man!

But if everyone keep forcing on me to be back with him, i'd rather abort the baby and make him childless!!! Than straight away divorce him, if he doesnt consent to the divorce i will do everything to make shame him and his family, revenge is sweet!

But i cannot bear to give up a innocent life just because of a Fxxker! ARghh!
 
Ice Queenie: Care to elabortate further on how does he bother ur family? Counting from the days, are you almost 3 months pregnant? Why not talk to him and see what he actually wants? Noone can force you to do anything if you dun want, but the keypoint is do you know what you want? If you had made up your mind to leave this man, seek for legal help to get to the goal... your baby has nothing to do with it. I agree that you wldn't want your baby to suffer with this man but if you are gaining the custody eventually, there is no reason for the baby to be with the man unless it is the usual access, probably once a week? Parents can advise you, all of us here can share our opinions with you but you have to know what you actually want and proceed with it?
 
Ice Queenie, if you keep the baby you must be prepared to always have to deal with your husband. He is the father of the baby; there is no justification to refuse his access to his child.
 
I really doesnt want to talk to him. There's nothing to talk about.
He just wants me back, but i doesnt want, or rather, why not say he only want the child.

I can refuse his access to the child as he's a ex drug addict, with ALOT of records.
So i definitely can fight to refuse his access.

His ex-wife also refused his excess to her child, also succeeded.. He doesnt even know how his 10years old daughter look like. serve him right!
 
In that case, go straight to a lawyer and seek the advices, not too sure if he lay his hands on you before, if he does, seek for PO?
 
He doesnt dare. Coz i will fight back.
If he does, i definitely will seek for PO.

Well, if he really does, i can straight away apply for divorce liao. SIGH!
 
doLL, very very long story.

Long story cut short, the man i love for 4+yrs is a married man, the one i married to is the close bro of the man i love.

I duno how to say everything out, anyway conclusion is: I'm stupid and thus made the biggest mistake in my life.

This is why i want to end everything, end the mistake that i've made. Coz the very first mistake i've made, have led to many many big mistakes which now includes a life (baby).

I live with no regrets, but this issue really made me regretted like hell, simply no words to describe.
 


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