Should i Divorce pls read and give me advice
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I wasn´t going after you when I wrote about looking into what was said. You view what I said as looking for hard core proof, feeling cornered. Your way of shielding yourself is by creeping back into your shell and shout, "See if I care ? I am very bo chup". The awkward LOL is a mechanism to deflect because you cannot substantiate.
I once met an Iraqi in his late twenties, psychically fit for Jihad. This was not long after September 11 when the consensus was against the arab world. Talking to him teaches me not to be quick to judge. He wasn´t one of those religious fanatics but a regular man, even bourgeois. He said push him, subtly accuse him of having affiliations with Al Qeada, he might just go to the other side. Now Scope, I really don´t want to be one of those biased against you resulting in you to remain in a combative state. (That combative state is disguised as indifference.)
I once met an Iraqi in his late twenties, psychically fit for Jihad. This was not long after September 11 when the consensus was against the arab world. Talking to him teaches me not to be quick to judge. He wasn´t one of those religious fanatics but a regular man, even bourgeois. He said push him, subtly accuse him of having affiliations with Al Qeada, he might just go to the other side. Now Scope, I really don´t want to be one of those biased against you resulting in you to remain in a combative state. (That combative state is disguised as indifference.)
Watching,
Go do what you want. This forum is nothing but entertainment to me... Look at this madness.
Been reading the forum for some time...
Madness. Shameless madness. LOL~
I prefer my life overseas, though I came back to settle some private matters... And I look forward to leave this stupid island soon again.
Before that...
Anyway, I don't feel cornered. I just feel the madness of the entire forum, if you know what I mean.
Go do what you want. This forum is nothing but entertainment to me... Look at this madness.
Been reading the forum for some time...
Madness. Shameless madness. LOL~
I prefer my life overseas, though I came back to settle some private matters... And I look forward to leave this stupid island soon again.
Before that...
Anyway, I don't feel cornered. I just feel the madness of the entire forum, if you know what I mean.
miloice
Well-Known Member
"I CAN.
When had she gotten professional help?
She got friends here... big mouths, bullshits, but when she needed real help, where are they?
And Milo, SHUT UP if you have nothing wiser than a monkey to say."
Your reply just proved the opposite... that you have no clue about her except that she was once a bride-to-be in this forum.
It doesn't at all prove that she hasn't seeked professional help, nor that her loved ones weren't doing anything. It only take a moment of madness to suicide. Go ask any professionals if they can guarantee they will always be able to stop every depressed patient from suicide.
Your careless insensitive behavior has gone overboard with the total disrespect to the deceased and her loved ones.
When had she gotten professional help?
She got friends here... big mouths, bullshits, but when she needed real help, where are they?
And Milo, SHUT UP if you have nothing wiser than a monkey to say."
Your reply just proved the opposite... that you have no clue about her except that she was once a bride-to-be in this forum.
It doesn't at all prove that she hasn't seeked professional help, nor that her loved ones weren't doing anything. It only take a moment of madness to suicide. Go ask any professionals if they can guarantee they will always be able to stop every depressed patient from suicide.
Your careless insensitive behavior has gone overboard with the total disrespect to the deceased and her loved ones.
Watching,
It's not crossing the line...
You don't understand me...
I CANNOT stand nosense and idiots... That's all.
It's a... personal trait.
I can smell rubbish from a mile. LOL~
Look at Milo, YiPing and Vios... do you think I need to take them seriously?
And Amulet, Blur, Glamour83 and a whole bunch of crazy women... emm?
Just me. When I face gu niang like Jeremy Tan, I'd just fock him off simply... and he can go whine how life sucks and fock his dick away forever and ever for all I care.
It's definitely not crossing any line... it's people crossing MY line... cos I can't stand nosense.
It's not crossing the line...
You don't understand me...
I CANNOT stand nosense and idiots... That's all.
It's a... personal trait.
I can smell rubbish from a mile. LOL~
Look at Milo, YiPing and Vios... do you think I need to take them seriously?
And Amulet, Blur, Glamour83 and a whole bunch of crazy women... emm?
Just me. When I face gu niang like Jeremy Tan, I'd just fock him off simply... and he can go whine how life sucks and fock his dick away forever and ever for all I care.
It's definitely not crossing any line... it's people crossing MY line... cos I can't stand nosense.
miloice
Well-Known Member
Watching,
anyone writing something like this would have been rebuked.
What discredit his own merit isn't simply just this incident of crossing over the line. The ability to read or write well doesn't excuse bad behavior at all. This isn't a forum just for the articulate.
anyone writing something like this would have been rebuked.
What discredit his own merit isn't simply just this incident of crossing over the line. The ability to read or write well doesn't excuse bad behavior at all. This isn't a forum just for the articulate.
Milo,
You know what my impression of you is?
You are just dimwitted useless piece of junk.
Look at this thread... You are basically talking rubbish to Thomas. I knew it. So I let Denise80 and you go on... and told Arsenal to ask.
It's very easy to prove you an idiot.
In my line of work... I can't make mistake like you, cos people will die, assh0le. I totally can't tolerate nosense like you.
All you can do is just talk rubbish, pass sweeping statement and when it comes to application... admit it, you are a shameless failure.
Am I too frank? I have always been frank... to the point of bluntness.
You know what my impression of you is?
You are just dimwitted useless piece of junk.
Look at this thread... You are basically talking rubbish to Thomas. I knew it. So I let Denise80 and you go on... and told Arsenal to ask.
It's very easy to prove you an idiot.
In my line of work... I can't make mistake like you, cos people will die, assh0le. I totally can't tolerate nosense like you.
All you can do is just talk rubbish, pass sweeping statement and when it comes to application... admit it, you are a shameless failure.
Am I too frank? I have always been frank... to the point of bluntness.
miloice
Well-Known Member
in line of work, u cannot bullshit your way with crap that you don't substantiate. Yes, I know you are blunt, I'm totally fine with that. I appreciate frankness very much but not egoistic bullshits.
You are not even man enough to acknowledge any of your mistakes and contradictions in this forum concealing it with insults and your silly laughter. No one cares about your line and warped views. You lack even basic manners and integrity. Admin banned you because he is crazy, yah right. Stop the lies.
You are not even man enough to acknowledge any of your mistakes and contradictions in this forum concealing it with insults and your silly laughter. No one cares about your line and warped views. You lack even basic manners and integrity. Admin banned you because he is crazy, yah right. Stop the lies.
Yes Milo, this forum is indeed not just for those who are articulate. You don´t need to have brilliant literary skills to get your message across but it´s essential to be able to convey and to interpret what is said. If you don´t get it right, it becomes an obstacle in many facets of daily life.
As for rebuking Scope, many have already echoed it.
As for rebuking Scope, many have already echoed it.
Milo,
You can't even read properly...
Lies?
This thread is here. Look at your own rubbish.
A dimwitted useless fatty trying to wiggle out is somewhat entertaining.
What you don't know WILL eventually kill you. Trust me.
A forum of morons... from a sick society of no culture. LOL~
What is the use of being so defensive, Milo? You can't even perform, but you have big mouth.
What had you told Don Lim... You ever recall? LOL~
Stupid, but arrogant, that's you. And you think that gives you the right to hide your sorry face and use your ass to rebuke Scope...
You got a basic functioning brain, right? Use it.
I don't have to bullshit... You already proven yourselves. LOL~
You can't even read properly...
Lies?
This thread is here. Look at your own rubbish.
A dimwitted useless fatty trying to wiggle out is somewhat entertaining.
What you don't know WILL eventually kill you. Trust me.
A forum of morons... from a sick society of no culture. LOL~
What is the use of being so defensive, Milo? You can't even perform, but you have big mouth.
What had you told Don Lim... You ever recall? LOL~
Stupid, but arrogant, that's you. And you think that gives you the right to hide your sorry face and use your ass to rebuke Scope...
You got a basic functioning brain, right? Use it.
I don't have to bullshit... You already proven yourselves. LOL~
miloice
Well-Known Member
watching, yes, for sure. The communication can be improved, with the feedback and reflection. It has been the case on several exchanges no?
Seriously, do you always in very context regardless bother to word everything carefully? To me, the context and intent is pretty important. If its just some casual remarks, I really don't bother.
Seriously, do you always in very context regardless bother to word everything carefully? To me, the context and intent is pretty important. If its just some casual remarks, I really don't bother.
Milo,
For example, at Don´s thread, it was pretty clear what he wanted. To read his requests wrongly, you´d be giving an off track suggestion. If there is error in interpreting a simple request, then I doubt the person giving suggestions because his literacy skills are lacking especially if happens regularly. If something this simple can be interpreted wrongly, what about complicated matters ? I mentioned this earlier, it becomes a habit not to read/write properly if you don´t train yourself to be critical in simple matters.
For example, at Don´s thread, it was pretty clear what he wanted. To read his requests wrongly, you´d be giving an off track suggestion. If there is error in interpreting a simple request, then I doubt the person giving suggestions because his literacy skills are lacking especially if happens regularly. If something this simple can be interpreted wrongly, what about complicated matters ? I mentioned this earlier, it becomes a habit not to read/write properly if you don´t train yourself to be critical in simple matters.
Actually for Don's thread and request, it's not simply a matter of literacy skills. In fact, Don's request wasn't that clear (in terms of language)and hence readers need to draw on their prior/contextual knowledge in order to understand his request. To me, Milo really didn't understand his intent. When he finally did understand, he feels too that he doesn't support such a method of proposal. It takes both contextual knowledge (which is tough because we all come from all walks of life and have different life experiences and values) and language competency (again it's difficult because it's not about how good you are at a language but rather, whether you could understand the different users of language..sometimes the better you are in language, the worse you are in comprehending the less competent user of language)to really understand a situation.
Scope, you sure you are not simply bumming around, like before? Ha Ha Ha. If you are indeed "in your line of work", i can foresee the interpersonal problems that you'd face - whether you want to deny or not, no one really gives a damn as well. Ha ha ha.
to quote milo, "u cannot bullshit your way with crap that you don't substantiate."
to quote watching, " If you don´t get it right, it becomes an obstacle in many facets of daily life."
to quote milo, "u cannot bullshit your way with crap that you don't substantiate."
to quote watching, " If you don´t get it right, it becomes an obstacle in many facets of daily life."
miloice
Well-Known Member
watching, Don's request wasn't so clear to me initially. I don't denial for skimping through it. My bad. It is clarified pretty quickly and simply (with Lax's comments and scope's sarcasm). As long as one doesn't put on the defense, the communication channel will be opened still. That isn't the case for everyone.
watching,
regardless, most of the time the 'mildy-related' posts are not an issue that big esp. online forums. well, as long as there is no ill-intention, i think it's fine leh.
in fact, milo was just writing from his experience, that's all. certainly, wasn't stupid and arrogant as claimed by Mr know-it-all-not.
regardless, most of the time the 'mildy-related' posts are not an issue that big esp. online forums. well, as long as there is no ill-intention, i think it's fine leh.
in fact, milo was just writing from his experience, that's all. certainly, wasn't stupid and arrogant as claimed by Mr know-it-all-not.
Denise,
Don made a simple request without using fancy words. Scope set an exemplary reply, Don thanked him. How hard was it to decipher what Don´s intentions were shortly thereafter ?
If I ask: 2/10*5, what would be your answer ? The correct answer is 1, not 1/25. Likewise, a comment interpreted a different way leads to a erroneous answer. You could argue it´s a matter of perspective, prior knowledge and that we are talking about language and not maths. When it´s wrong, it´s just wrong. It´s not like the chicken or egg question, where you can debate endlessly.
"The better you are in language, the worse you are in comprehending the less competent user of language" is true but let´s reframe the thoughts, it should be the worse a person is at expressing himself, the more effort he should put in making himself understandable. Go forward, not backwards.
Vios,
I know Milo has no ill intention in his erroneous writings.
Don made a simple request without using fancy words. Scope set an exemplary reply, Don thanked him. How hard was it to decipher what Don´s intentions were shortly thereafter ?
If I ask: 2/10*5, what would be your answer ? The correct answer is 1, not 1/25. Likewise, a comment interpreted a different way leads to a erroneous answer. You could argue it´s a matter of perspective, prior knowledge and that we are talking about language and not maths. When it´s wrong, it´s just wrong. It´s not like the chicken or egg question, where you can debate endlessly.
"The better you are in language, the worse you are in comprehending the less competent user of language" is true but let´s reframe the thoughts, it should be the worse a person is at expressing himself, the more effort he should put in making himself understandable. Go forward, not backwards.
Vios,
I know Milo has no ill intention in his erroneous writings.
Watching, your mathematical question is logic plus all of us surely have prior knowledge of maths. You can say Milo's not romantic or has not seen enough to understand what's going on but as compared to a mule, I rather try to enlighten the former haha.
Actually whether a person is gd or bad in expressing himself /herself is subjective because it depends on the level of the receiver. I didn't understand yiping in the other thread because he/she didn't name a person before he/she replies...guess he/she didn't expect me to reply immediately before he/she does. This is the reality of forum. It's real time and sometimes difficult to track and be 100% correct all the time. I remembered calling you 'watchful' too hahaha simply because I was using an iphone then.
Since you share that Milo has no ill intentions in his erroneous writings (actually it's just unclear at times..not necessarily erroneous), then I guess all it takes is some clarifications. Actually Milo is good in English so much so that when he wrote in an 'obscure' manner, I just feel that he's trying to generalise things (making a general statement) or if not, it's done deliberately with the assumption that his target will naturally know who he's referring to.
Actually whether a person is gd or bad in expressing himself /herself is subjective because it depends on the level of the receiver. I didn't understand yiping in the other thread because he/she didn't name a person before he/she replies...guess he/she didn't expect me to reply immediately before he/she does. This is the reality of forum. It's real time and sometimes difficult to track and be 100% correct all the time. I remembered calling you 'watchful' too hahaha simply because I was using an iphone then.
Since you share that Milo has no ill intentions in his erroneous writings (actually it's just unclear at times..not necessarily erroneous), then I guess all it takes is some clarifications. Actually Milo is good in English so much so that when he wrote in an 'obscure' manner, I just feel that he's trying to generalise things (making a general statement) or if not, it's done deliberately with the assumption that his target will naturally know who he's referring to.
Denise,
Well, about your last paragraph, to elaborate, there were 2 parts in Milo´s writings. One was specifically about Scope, Milo says the other part is about forumers in general. The first part sounded remotely like Scope: Scope drives criticism straight in. Is Scope concise ? I don´t want to nitpick unless you want to know more of that topic.
Maybe "erroneous" too harsh a word to describe Milo´s writings. You know what I notice ? The more group A is pushed, the more they stand up for person A. Vice versa. Like my Iraqi-encounter.
Yes, I remember you called me "watchful", I called you Tortoise because we were playing for my part.
Well, about your last paragraph, to elaborate, there were 2 parts in Milo´s writings. One was specifically about Scope, Milo says the other part is about forumers in general. The first part sounded remotely like Scope: Scope drives criticism straight in. Is Scope concise ? I don´t want to nitpick unless you want to know more of that topic.
Maybe "erroneous" too harsh a word to describe Milo´s writings. You know what I notice ? The more group A is pushed, the more they stand up for person A. Vice versa. Like my Iraqi-encounter.
Yes, I remember you called me "watchful", I called you Tortoise because we were playing for my part.
Last year, when Scope first appeared with the same pseudonym, he had you and Hweebs as sort of an alliance. With Hweebs, he had a some sort of love and hate relationship. With you, it was love or the equivalent of love....hihi. You stood up for him, even more when he was "attacked". The more you were pushed, the more you justified for him until it was downright crazy to stand up for him. Group A would consist of people like you. Person A would be Scope. Like the religious fanatics versus the rest of the world.
Think you read too much into things?
How about my behaviour towards Mr. Scope now? Group B? How would you classify my behaviour then and now? To scope, I've worsened since I don't help him hahahah... anyway I am ME in this forum. I don't stand up for anyone out of loyalty. I have disagreed with Milo before too just like how I could agree with Scope in the past and disagree with him now. It depends on the matter discussed, not the person...something which I need in my job. As a person, I like to see the balance of things and thus when everyone is pitying Thomas, I wonder how that would help him in the long run...I too pity him but I decided to give him some advice on self-reflection to help himself further.
How about my behaviour towards Mr. Scope now? Group B? How would you classify my behaviour then and now? To scope, I've worsened since I don't help him hahahah... anyway I am ME in this forum. I don't stand up for anyone out of loyalty. I have disagreed with Milo before too just like how I could agree with Scope in the past and disagree with him now. It depends on the matter discussed, not the person...something which I need in my job. As a person, I like to see the balance of things and thus when everyone is pitying Thomas, I wonder how that would help him in the long run...I too pity him but I decided to give him some advice on self-reflection to help himself further.
I didn´t say you´ve worsened. I see how Scope is talking to you now and your reaction to him is justified. Last year, when he went crazy, you weren´t one of those who had a go at him but you did support him when you "deemed" him correct. Maybe I am mistaken, after all, it was last year. You can prove me wrong within the periphery of Scope, not Milo or someone else.
miloice
Well-Known Member
Well... watching. you can pretty much call it anything about my writing.
Fact is, you haven't seem to moved on over the simple casual I had made. My intent and context of the message has been clarified. But, you are not willing let it go.
You might not have realize the irony. Many times, your own choice of words and writings are not exactly that clear as well, it is not difficult to see that preference to use flowery language that aren't exactly as clear frankly. Just quoting a recent example, your analogy of LOTR. Well, you might feel its witty, honestly, wouldn't that be clearer in plain simple english? Its obvious. But probably, not having the same effect and impact. It brings to the point about the context and intent. There are situations one need not require clear concise communication and that creativity brings value.
We look at the appropriateness for the choice of words. Don's initial request for phases to bring across the same meaning as his proposal to his partner could be read as suggestions on how to propose. Not just in phrases but in action and other forms as well. That's how I had read it initially. When one is making a request, there is a need to be clear. It isn't a situation to be ambiguous. Still, all that its needed is some clarifications.
The emphasis over language rather than basic need for open communication amazes me. This has been the case over your comments (defense) for scope. SO WHAT he reads & write well. Its not a contest for the wittiest. He surely doesn't communicate well... not because of the lack of lingistic skills, but the simple lack of integrity and respect that is fundamental for any effective communication. His communication is one way.
Fact is, you haven't seem to moved on over the simple casual I had made. My intent and context of the message has been clarified. But, you are not willing let it go.
You might not have realize the irony. Many times, your own choice of words and writings are not exactly that clear as well, it is not difficult to see that preference to use flowery language that aren't exactly as clear frankly. Just quoting a recent example, your analogy of LOTR. Well, you might feel its witty, honestly, wouldn't that be clearer in plain simple english? Its obvious. But probably, not having the same effect and impact. It brings to the point about the context and intent. There are situations one need not require clear concise communication and that creativity brings value.
We look at the appropriateness for the choice of words. Don's initial request for phases to bring across the same meaning as his proposal to his partner could be read as suggestions on how to propose. Not just in phrases but in action and other forms as well. That's how I had read it initially. When one is making a request, there is a need to be clear. It isn't a situation to be ambiguous. Still, all that its needed is some clarifications.
The emphasis over language rather than basic need for open communication amazes me. This has been the case over your comments (defense) for scope. SO WHAT he reads & write well. Its not a contest for the wittiest. He surely doesn't communicate well... not because of the lack of lingistic skills, but the simple lack of integrity and respect that is fundamental for any effective communication. His communication is one way.
You people are sick. Period.
And Denise80, when do I need an ally?
Sick means sick. Even when proven, you people can shamelessly go on arguing for the sake of arguing. Disturbing.
That's why I tell both Thomas and Don to avoid you people. Assh0les you are... Small people, nosensical... and infesting the forums and society.
Very disturbing. Because Denise80 is a teacher.
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And Denise80, when do I need an ally?
Sick means sick. Even when proven, you people can shamelessly go on arguing for the sake of arguing. Disturbing.
That's why I tell both Thomas and Don to avoid you people. Assh0les you are... Small people, nosensical... and infesting the forums and society.
Very disturbing. Because Denise80 is a teacher.
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My wife just call. Ask me how am I. Say I love you and I miss you. And she send me the SMS. (Baby i really love u miss u i miss yourkind missyourhug but u know everything how i c your face i tot u dont know than i can go back to b your wife nw u know i feel shame to c u and your mother i never think u stupid. I so sorry.)
Thomas,
This sort of women really makes me feel like vomitting.
Anyway, you should realise that she is merely a plaything to the other man.
Stay focus. Proceed on with the divorce, and don't come to this forum again, especially when I am not around.
Remember, she is NOT leaving you with any choice. There would be pain, but that shouldn't stop you applying the brakes.
She is telling the truth, she wants the cake and eat it. BUT... she doesn't really love you. A woman who truly loves her man... would observe the honor of love.
Don't ever have second thot.
I personally hate this type of women... but they are everywhere.
One day that man is bankrupted, she'd leave him. But most likely, that man will lose interest in your wife after the excitment is gone... It's a very likely event, and you have to be prepared of what you'd do.
Remember, don't hate her. She means really no harm to you except that she doesn't truly love you.
She thinks you are stupid. That's for sure.
This sort of women really makes me feel like vomitting.
Anyway, you should realise that she is merely a plaything to the other man.
Stay focus. Proceed on with the divorce, and don't come to this forum again, especially when I am not around.
Remember, she is NOT leaving you with any choice. There would be pain, but that shouldn't stop you applying the brakes.
She is telling the truth, she wants the cake and eat it. BUT... she doesn't really love you. A woman who truly loves her man... would observe the honor of love.
Don't ever have second thot.
I personally hate this type of women... but they are everywhere.
One day that man is bankrupted, she'd leave him. But most likely, that man will lose interest in your wife after the excitment is gone... It's a very likely event, and you have to be prepared of what you'd do.
Remember, don't hate her. She means really no harm to you except that she doesn't truly love you.
She thinks you are stupid. That's for sure.
arsenal_84
Member
dump her for christ sake...once a leopard always a leopard.
some leopards can change but you really need to ask your logical mind deep within, can she really change for good ?
this soft tactic she's been trying to use on you, did this happen a few times before ?
some leopards can change but you really need to ask your logical mind deep within, can she really change for good ?
this soft tactic she's been trying to use on you, did this happen a few times before ?
Milo,
STOP talking nosense!
Arsenal,
It's not a leopard issue.
You people don't understand the profiles here, please stop interfering!!!
Focking disturbing...
You think this is computer game... Stop this stop that, cut this cut that, and this 'sim character' will just move.
She is NOT using soft tactics either!
Please don't mislead him.
STOP talking nosense!
Arsenal,
It's not a leopard issue.
You people don't understand the profiles here, please stop interfering!!!
Focking disturbing...
You think this is computer game... Stop this stop that, cut this cut that, and this 'sim character' will just move.
She is NOT using soft tactics either!
Please don't mislead him.
Thanks Milo and Arsenal. I understand what you guys meant. I very confuse now. I know she did it for a reason and choose not to tell me. I think she is feeling the pain I'm going tru now. After I told her I want to divorce her yesterday.
Saying sorry pls forgive me is not going to change my mind.
I hopes she don't call me again.
Saying sorry pls forgive me is not going to change my mind.
I hopes she don't call me again.
miloice
Well-Known Member
Hi Thomas, with matters of the heart, there isn't a simple single reason for things. Its always a combination of many factors... the permutations could be infinite. Spending all the time digging isn't going to improve the situation nor give you answers to everything in your clouded mind.
Don't look at the past, it is gone. The future is not yet written. The hurts will continue to linger for sure. Emotions comes in waves... how soon you can recover from it depends largely on how you manage that. Take care bro.
Don't look at the past, it is gone. The future is not yet written. The hurts will continue to linger for sure. Emotions comes in waves... how soon you can recover from it depends largely on how you manage that. Take care bro.
Thomas,
Subconciously, you desire her to call you again.
Basically, she should understand her. If I am not wrong, she also knows she is playing a game. She needs the money from that man, but she knows you give her the option of a normal family. So...
She has been hoping to juggle two options at a time.
You mentioned she came from a poor family and she used credit card. For this sort of personality, material draws is huge but as she matures... you will gradually become more important to her... not because she loves you, but because she will be needing to settle down.
It's a general women psychological thing.
As for you...
You should and must close this case in this forum. It is usually best at this stage that you complete the divorce yourself and do not expose yourself to unprofessional noises.
The more you got yourself exposed to these morons, the more you will be confused, and likely end up in an extreme.
You have to take a break from this forum, cool down, do what you need to do, grow with this lesson, understand your wife and know how to manage this feeling.
It can be a time of depression... and yes, during this time, I DO NOT want you to be exposed to these noises. These people will make random guesses, sweeping statements and pretend to be helpful when they don't even care to think.
Don't ever reflect too much cos you will only, in chinese 钻牛角尖, thinking too much.
So your current most important thing is to find a life outside this forum because your wife can be expected to call you from time to time, and trust me... no matter what they say, you will be likely to 'spy' on that guy for her pictures.
There is NO quick solution to forgetting her and the marriage and bla bla bla since she took a significant role in your state of concious mind.
This is a pathetic crowd; if you were Kerin Peh and have friends like these people... I'd have suggested you leave them. They are NOT good company.
Whatever the reason for her infidelity... Just remember, you were the husband.
Now, please leave this forum for your own good. You are the only one who can close this case for yourself.
Subconciously, you desire her to call you again.
Basically, she should understand her. If I am not wrong, she also knows she is playing a game. She needs the money from that man, but she knows you give her the option of a normal family. So...
She has been hoping to juggle two options at a time.
You mentioned she came from a poor family and she used credit card. For this sort of personality, material draws is huge but as she matures... you will gradually become more important to her... not because she loves you, but because she will be needing to settle down.
It's a general women psychological thing.
As for you...
You should and must close this case in this forum. It is usually best at this stage that you complete the divorce yourself and do not expose yourself to unprofessional noises.
The more you got yourself exposed to these morons, the more you will be confused, and likely end up in an extreme.
You have to take a break from this forum, cool down, do what you need to do, grow with this lesson, understand your wife and know how to manage this feeling.
It can be a time of depression... and yes, during this time, I DO NOT want you to be exposed to these noises. These people will make random guesses, sweeping statements and pretend to be helpful when they don't even care to think.
Don't ever reflect too much cos you will only, in chinese 钻牛角尖, thinking too much.
So your current most important thing is to find a life outside this forum because your wife can be expected to call you from time to time, and trust me... no matter what they say, you will be likely to 'spy' on that guy for her pictures.
There is NO quick solution to forgetting her and the marriage and bla bla bla since she took a significant role in your state of concious mind.
This is a pathetic crowd; if you were Kerin Peh and have friends like these people... I'd have suggested you leave them. They are NOT good company.
Whatever the reason for her infidelity... Just remember, you were the husband.
Now, please leave this forum for your own good. You are the only one who can close this case for yourself.
Denise80,
Insult?
If she exists in spiritual form, she'd also advice Thomas the same.
You people are bad influence... and yeah, you are a teacher.
Don't anyhow shoot. What no good reason? It's also very obvious she was making news and more news and yet... I don't see how great professional help people claimed to love her had given her.
It's something weird in the society of Singapore that you people love to sweep every shit under the carpet... and things happen again... and again... and again.
Are you all freaking crazy? Is this even a culture?
Insult?
If she exists in spiritual form, she'd also advice Thomas the same.
You people are bad influence... and yeah, you are a teacher.
Don't anyhow shoot. What no good reason? It's also very obvious she was making news and more news and yet... I don't see how great professional help people claimed to love her had given her.
It's something weird in the society of Singapore that you people love to sweep every shit under the carpet... and things happen again... and again... and again.
Are you all freaking crazy? Is this even a culture?
If you're so great as you've claimed and all others including the supposedly 'professionals' ain't professional, pls tell me what would you have done to help her? So..where were you when she needed help then? TALK big only. Where is your "positive" influence? Where? Answer this.