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Should i Divorce pls read and give me advice
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arsenal_84
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thought i shared some logical signature from sbf:
The Stupid Man Never Learn From His Mistakes.
The Common Man Learns From His Mistakes.
The Smart Man Learns From Others' Mistakes.
The Stupid Man Never Learn From His Mistakes.
The Common Man Learns From His Mistakes.
The Smart Man Learns From Others' Mistakes.
Some question to the ladies.
I dont drink, i never like clubing, i quit smoking for my wife but im smoking back now..
I run a small company and business is bad this year. I need to work at nite doing quotation and repling email, usually i start around 9pm after dinner and washing but not daily. I like to watch Discovery and Crime channals. I need to work from 9-6 sometimes reach home at 8 if i need to fetch my sis from work. I enjoy going NTUC to shop for gerocies, go prawning friday nites and movies and window shopping.
Do you guys find me boring cos i really dont have much friends to go out to play with. Most of the things i do is with family. Sundays send my mum to church. Twice a month go for leg message Or steam baths.
I dont drink, i never like clubing, i quit smoking for my wife but im smoking back now..
I run a small company and business is bad this year. I need to work at nite doing quotation and repling email, usually i start around 9pm after dinner and washing but not daily. I like to watch Discovery and Crime channals. I need to work from 9-6 sometimes reach home at 8 if i need to fetch my sis from work. I enjoy going NTUC to shop for gerocies, go prawning friday nites and movies and window shopping.
Do you guys find me boring cos i really dont have much friends to go out to play with. Most of the things i do is with family. Sundays send my mum to church. Twice a month go for leg message Or steam baths.
arsenal_84
Member
don't tell me you suspect his wife used to be an ex-WL/FL/coyote ?
if he's not willing to provide details, why bother ?
if he's not willing to provide details, why bother ?
Thomas, you're not boring. My hubby watches discovery and crime investigation channels as well, while I watch my drama (which he doesn't like). My hubby also loves to go supermarket (cold storage tho) to buy groceries and cook for the both for us. He owns a business too but his hours are very flexible so he has more free time than I do. We are both famiy-oriented and will spend our weekends with each other's families. We have many many friends too and will go out with them often as well as a group. Other times we would go out on our own or have our quiet time at home.
My main message to you, Thomas, is...there's nothing wrong with all these. You just met the wrong person. These shouldn't be the things you should be changing. I think the only thing you should change is your judgement of people you love. Try to understand what kind of woman suits you rather than going all the way out to suit her. Both need to meet halfway. Try to see if there's a pattern in your love life too. Do you often fall for the same type of women? Do you often get jilted / cheated by women?
My main message to you, Thomas, is...there's nothing wrong with all these. You just met the wrong person. These shouldn't be the things you should be changing. I think the only thing you should change is your judgement of people you love. Try to understand what kind of woman suits you rather than going all the way out to suit her. Both need to meet halfway. Try to see if there's a pattern in your love life too. Do you often fall for the same type of women? Do you often get jilted / cheated by women?
I meet my wife when she came with a few friends came singapore for holidays. My friend happen to know one of them and we just went for a dinner. I didnt really have any feelings when i meet her at first but we did exchange number. All started by a SMS. I found that she is a nice gal pretty actually. We can talk a lot and emails and sms. i also dont know what happen now that we have nothing much to talk. Always are u tired today, did u eat .......
She told me she wanted to stop her studies cos its tough to work and studies it will take very long to complete.
I fell in love with her and we went for two holidays at Thailand and she paid for everything. Eatting good food stay good hotels and even Diving those is the best memories. I told her to stop working and i would send $500 a month to her her and i only gave her 5 month and she told me its enough.
I propose to her after she graduate. She went back due to the permit she can only stay for two months. But everything change before married. She sms me say she not coming back mostly family stuff. Every time we talk and she agrees to come over in the end. I think problem started when she went back to thailand. who knows only god and her.
She told me she wanted to stop her studies cos its tough to work and studies it will take very long to complete.
I fell in love with her and we went for two holidays at Thailand and she paid for everything. Eatting good food stay good hotels and even Diving those is the best memories. I told her to stop working and i would send $500 a month to her her and i only gave her 5 month and she told me its enough.
I propose to her after she graduate. She went back due to the permit she can only stay for two months. But everything change before married. She sms me say she not coming back mostly family stuff. Every time we talk and she agrees to come over in the end. I think problem started when she went back to thailand. who knows only god and her.
denise actually i have lots of girl friends during school days. After my NS i did a lot of wrong things in my life Bookie weekends drug parties and working is on and off for me. i alsoo stop going to church, i just feel not right. I started my own Compay when the company i work for close down and the customer came to find me. i kind of lost confident in finding a GF due to me losing intrest in my girlfriend after a while. my last one is at 2001 when i was studing at Shatec before i go NS I feel so bad and i think i must stop hurting peope.so its about 9 years when i meet my wife.
arsenal_84
Member
tbh, with the minimum wage of just 7500 bht in most parts of bkk, even thought that how she was able to afford a pricy domestic trip within their region ?
just apartment rent in bkk can cost up to a whopping 5000 bht.
just apartment rent in bkk can cost up to a whopping 5000 bht.
Eventually if its true and she choose not to tell me its her pass. I also respect her who dont have pass i was worst if i want to talk about pass. I know she owns credit card company money but she always tells me not much and i also suppect now that the guy might have been supporting her also. I can forget all the pass if she is willing to be my good wife, if you understand what im getting.
denise i think im more mature now. Im not as attractive as before. All my girl friends approach me to be together im usually not the one asking. I like a church girl when i was very young and i know she likes me. I always tell myself she must be the one. So i dont dare to start cos i know starting off to early wont last. must safe the best for last.But i always go stray with the outside life. Maby she is always in my heart. Now she is married im happy for her.
arsenal_84
Member
guess the two of you have goals that was not well-aligned with one another.
from an external pov, it does seems to look more like a marriage of convenience.
she had tried her best to adapt life in sg, guess either she is too home-sick or you just don't speak enough thai to impress her.
from an external pov, it does seems to look more like a marriage of convenience.
she had tried her best to adapt life in sg, guess either she is too home-sick or you just don't speak enough thai to impress her.
arsenal_84
Member
once you decide to serve her the letters, stop trying to spy on her.
is about time you prepare your life without her in the future.
is about time you prepare your life without her in the future.
arsenal i also told my self. She home sick and not adapt to SG life but so dont have to go to that guy. I still feels there more she not telling guess i dont have to know now. I did told her before not to do it again before my heart dies. If she tell me yesterday she will come back i will still forgive her.
arsenal_84
Member
once or twice is enough, don't lose your mind trying to forget her the 3rd time.
i'll seen cases of men trying very hard to forgive their straying partner and eventually they lose their sanity meaning the outcome is still the same, serve the papers.
i'll seen cases of men trying very hard to forgive their straying partner and eventually they lose their sanity meaning the outcome is still the same, serve the papers.
Yea arsenal, i starting to realise it now.i can get her back but i cant hold on to her. Thai people thinking is too simple they just see now and not future. Thats what my friends said. Before i marry her i was also worried. I did a lot of reading in the internet. There is so many bad reviews and i trust her sometimes i ask God why things turn out like this. I still pray for her mum and family everyday. Guess god wants me to see all this.
arsenal_84
Member
they do think about the future...is just the the poor never seem to be able to get out of the poverty cycle easily.
if you date her for a longer period, you would know a lot better if she was well worth your trouble of marrying her.
some local men took time up to at least 5 years before they decide their thai woman was of marriage material.
next time, open your eyes big big before stepping into another commitment.
if you date her for a longer period, you would know a lot better if she was well worth your trouble of marrying her.
some local men took time up to at least 5 years before they decide their thai woman was of marriage material.
next time, open your eyes big big before stepping into another commitment.
Thomas, don't let age be an obstacle, particularly since you're a man and not a woman...my relative's getting married this year and he's 38 years old...wife-to-be is 30. It's important you meet the right person. I have male colleagues who chose to be singles too and they are living happily. Don't be affected by social stigma. It's about your own happiness. Also, don't keep thinking because you have a bad past and thus you deserve a woman with a bad past. Focus on now and the future. One learning point from here could be to choose a simpler woman in the future.
Denise80,
Discovered something and why you were talking nosense?
Arsenal,
What do you think of his experience if he were to be telling the truth?
Thomas,
Can you please tell us what you discover was she difference after you propose... And WHY did you propose and think she'd agree to marry you?
Discovered something and why you were talking nosense?
Arsenal,
What do you think of his experience if he were to be telling the truth?
Thomas,
Can you please tell us what you discover was she difference after you propose... And WHY did you propose and think she'd agree to marry you?
Scope, this new discovery further supports what you considered to be 'my nonsense'. After reading so much, Thomas must reflect more and he is now reflecting on himself, his choice as he writes more about how they got together etc. But deeper reflections are needed so that he doesn't make the same mistake again. There's no point focusing too much on the wife right now but he should use that information to rethink about his poor decision to marry her to begin with. Then he could avert future unhappiness and find himself someone worthy. You can't change who you are going to meet in the future, Thomas, but you can certainly change how you view the world and people and make a better choice in the future.
If she says she come back now. I will let her to come back and have a serious talk. If I talk about the guy over the phone, I know she will never come back. She is still my wife until we sign the paper. What ever shit happens I will start all over. That's life I'll.
I decided to just tell her to Carry on what she is doing. As long as she Is happy I won't ask her to come back. and I will settle the legal things my self. She is selfish it's not wrong. Just we not fated.
I decided to just tell her to Carry on what she is doing. As long as she Is happy I won't ask her to come back. and I will settle the legal things my self. She is selfish it's not wrong. Just we not fated.
I discovered that the talking and attitude towards coming to settle down in Singapore change. I can sense something wrong. I got a strong feeling its that guy. But I still proced with the marriage. Hoping it's just before married stress or something. I guess it's the biggest mistake. In my life I believe god has plans for me I'll just accept it. I have done so many wrong things and god is still looking after me I believe he will help me this time round too.
Thomas,
Thanks.
It has nothing to do with the God. It's just the natural flow of events for you.
After Denise80's big talk... you will still face the same girl and let her back to talk (to lie)...
It has nothing to do with being more mature, reflect and bla bla bla. Thomas, this is you; you don't need to face a second girl... with the same girl, you will not only let her back and let her lie, you WILL likely go on spying that guy even after divorce.
Sorry, I just made use of you to point out Denise80's problem. She imagines men... if you were to be her husband, all those talks with her will make her think you communicated. She got a communication issue she IS NOT LOOKING to confront with herself.
They are misleading you round and round and round.
You really think given the next girl, you will change? LOL~
I never expected that.
Denise80,
Still don't know what is your nosense?
Why not read carefully how they met and married?
Thanks.
It has nothing to do with the God. It's just the natural flow of events for you.
After Denise80's big talk... you will still face the same girl and let her back to talk (to lie)...
It has nothing to do with being more mature, reflect and bla bla bla. Thomas, this is you; you don't need to face a second girl... with the same girl, you will not only let her back and let her lie, you WILL likely go on spying that guy even after divorce.
Sorry, I just made use of you to point out Denise80's problem. She imagines men... if you were to be her husband, all those talks with her will make her think you communicated. She got a communication issue she IS NOT LOOKING to confront with herself.
They are misleading you round and round and round.
You really think given the next girl, you will change? LOL~
I never expected that.
Denise80,
Still don't know what is your nosense?
Why not read carefully how they met and married?
Thomas,
I was trying to lessen your pain by telling you not to think so much... and do what needs to be done.
Just do it, and ignore those morons here. Don't think back, don't be stupid. Annul and move on.
Like I said... if you don't mind idiotic, no culture, smartalec and crazy Singaporean girls, there are tons of them single and waiting for you.
Why the fock must Denise80 interfere??? KPO???
All you were wishing for is a lie so that you can continue...
You felt hurted... you are going to go on spying that guy and check for more pictures of her... and... sorry to say that, if tomorrow she pacifies you and will come back...
Your doors will likely to be open for her.
Nothing will change that.
You don't have a choice, Thomas.
Sorry... I studied psychology. If you are true, I already profiled you.
Like I said, you already know the end before you started here.
Survive this hurt will make you grow stronger.
Thomas, don't think too much. Stay focus... and proceed on.
I was trying to lessen your pain by telling you not to think so much... and do what needs to be done.
Just do it, and ignore those morons here. Don't think back, don't be stupid. Annul and move on.
Like I said... if you don't mind idiotic, no culture, smartalec and crazy Singaporean girls, there are tons of them single and waiting for you.
Why the fock must Denise80 interfere??? KPO???
All you were wishing for is a lie so that you can continue...
You felt hurted... you are going to go on spying that guy and check for more pictures of her... and... sorry to say that, if tomorrow she pacifies you and will come back...
Your doors will likely to be open for her.
Nothing will change that.
You don't have a choice, Thomas.
Sorry... I studied psychology. If you are true, I already profiled you.
Like I said, you already know the end before you started here.
Survive this hurt will make you grow stronger.
Thomas, don't think too much. Stay focus... and proceed on.
arsenal_84
Member
come to think of it, i believed the key reason to as why she keeps going back to her lover, the real possibility is simply that TS is really the 3rd party.
that's also partly the reason why i never date thai girls who has a bf back in their country.
that's also partly the reason why i never date thai girls who has a bf back in their country.
Thomas,
Telling her is a 'proceedure' necessary to your character; it helps you to 'formally' draw a line for yourself as 'settled'.
Since this is her response, let it be.
Ignore Arsenal, you were not the third party.
Don't come to this forum again if I were not to be around.
If you are true. You will be facing depression.
There are too many moronic noises here. A Kerin Peh died precisely because she got a problem, she mingled with the wrong people, nobody aided her properly, she did not reach professional help...
What you need to do now is to normalise your life and understand that you have done what you have done, things can't be helped, it's not your fault because you'd have done the same thing if you restart again.
I suggest you avoid services such as SOS and local counselling if need be, most of them are crazy... useless, and unprofessional in my honest view.
What you need now is to go offline and take a look at other pretty girls and think of your next love affair.
And most importantly... psychologically speaking... remind yourself that (especially when you spied on the guy for her photos again) if you were to be fated together, you can still remarry.
It'd help relief the 'pain'.
There is no need to hate her since... I suspect you already know her when you proposed. LOL~
I suspect your business is facing problem too. If need be, approach your MP for legal aid.
Thomas...
Case closed, shalt we?
Telling her is a 'proceedure' necessary to your character; it helps you to 'formally' draw a line for yourself as 'settled'.
Since this is her response, let it be.
Ignore Arsenal, you were not the third party.
Don't come to this forum again if I were not to be around.
If you are true. You will be facing depression.
There are too many moronic noises here. A Kerin Peh died precisely because she got a problem, she mingled with the wrong people, nobody aided her properly, she did not reach professional help...
What you need to do now is to normalise your life and understand that you have done what you have done, things can't be helped, it's not your fault because you'd have done the same thing if you restart again.
I suggest you avoid services such as SOS and local counselling if need be, most of them are crazy... useless, and unprofessional in my honest view.
What you need now is to go offline and take a look at other pretty girls and think of your next love affair.
And most importantly... psychologically speaking... remind yourself that (especially when you spied on the guy for her photos again) if you were to be fated together, you can still remarry.
It'd help relief the 'pain'.
There is no need to hate her since... I suspect you already know her when you proposed. LOL~
I suspect your business is facing problem too. If need be, approach your MP for legal aid.
Thomas...
Case closed, shalt we?
miloice
Well-Known Member
Thomas, it is impossible to empty one's mind.
Positivity encourages a healthy mind. Don't let negativity bring you into a vicious cycle. You will need time to deal with the hurt. You cannot get away from that... Just deal with it and if needed, seek professional help early.
Positivity encourages a healthy mind. Don't let negativity bring you into a vicious cycle. You will need time to deal with the hurt. You cannot get away from that... Just deal with it and if needed, seek professional help early.
miloice
Well-Known Member
Anyway, its totally disrespectful for the dead with that suggestion. Very convenient to bring up reference that couldn't be verified against. I had pretty much ignored scope's comments but this is totally sick.
Did scope personally know the very people in the circle to make this claim that she was in the wrong company of people?? How sure that she did not seek professional help as well. No person nor God can prevent all incidents of suicides.
Did scope personally know the very people in the circle to make this claim that she was in the wrong company of people?? How sure that she did not seek professional help as well. No person nor God can prevent all incidents of suicides.