NEED ADVISE - financial issue
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Denise, I had no intention of adding a further reply to your post at 10:46pm, but since you added one at 5 minutes later, I will need to clarify this.
I was referring to the part where you wrote to me - only. Not to Watching, not to anyone else. Only that one paragraph. I pointed out that you may not even realise that... so, once again, just sayin'.
I was referring to the part where you wrote to me - only. Not to Watching, not to anyone else. Only that one paragraph. I pointed out that you may not even realise that... so, once again, just sayin'.
matka, if it's occupational hazard on grammar rules, it probably sounded like I'm teaching or preaching... I don't see why it's condescending. If it's condescending, I think I would have gotten into trouble with teaching kids as none of them will come to me for help. Just clarifying.
yesorno333,
dun stop others unless u're prepared to put effort into arbitration, and if u wanna arbitrate, do it with deeper thoughts than simply to get pple to stop....
if u were sent to counsel a suicide case, u will fail badly with renditions of the world being a better place, without so much of understanding the cause of the suicidal tendencies.
dun stop others unless u're prepared to put effort into arbitration, and if u wanna arbitrate, do it with deeper thoughts than simply to get pple to stop....
if u were sent to counsel a suicide case, u will fail badly with renditions of the world being a better place, without so much of understanding the cause of the suicidal tendencies.
and now we come to the part denise tries to be frens with everyone else....
u notice that only denise will bother to sound frenly with yesorno333 despite him being totally empty, stand with him and make it look like she's on the same side of the supposed 'peacemaker', any peacemaker for that matter, even one this bad... to mask her inadequecies and make her out to be 'good' to the uninitiated forummers.
seriously denise, u lack depth yet u think u dun. to see u make such lame justifications - 'If it's condescending, I think I would have gotten into trouble with teaching kids as none of them will come to me for help. Just clarifying.'
using kids whom u are a teacher to, to justify them coming to u Otherwise blah blah blah... shows how unintelligent u are. it's as if the students had a freakin choice Not to come to u, and we can't even verify if u're just conveniently using examples of a few to make yourself seem more approachable than u actually are. judging by your attitude in this forum, i have serious doubts.
u keep saying that pple use personal attacks, How abt yourself? how can u in all good conscience, disregard your lame references and daringly make yourself out to be a victim?
u have a serious problem with comprehension becos u completely screwed up my post abt those who ostracize prc's etc etc to mean a different context and argued it for the sake of arguing. my stand on the issue was clear from the very beginning But like everything else, u read with the intent to argue and show how smart u are when u consistently display your poor comprehension. Even after realising u screwed up, u proceed to cover your ass and weasel your way out.
u have very poor integrity and character. this is how i would say it.
But, if i wanted to say things that way denise says it... i would say, "for a teacher, u have very poor integrity and character".
yes, that is precisely how u make your personal attacks... u clutch on to anything u can to negate and insult the person. u always hit below the belt. anyone with some intelligence who bothers to run thru your posts can see that is how u operate, always kicking pple below the belt, then playing victim and running to make frens with anyone for the moral support u need.
this is why i said despise u. i dun despise easily, i never even had that feeling with Watching despite having protracted arguments with her some time back, if i can rem. i despise u becos u Betray yourself and all goodness just to win arguments.
u notice that only denise will bother to sound frenly with yesorno333 despite him being totally empty, stand with him and make it look like she's on the same side of the supposed 'peacemaker', any peacemaker for that matter, even one this bad... to mask her inadequecies and make her out to be 'good' to the uninitiated forummers.
seriously denise, u lack depth yet u think u dun. to see u make such lame justifications - 'If it's condescending, I think I would have gotten into trouble with teaching kids as none of them will come to me for help. Just clarifying.'
using kids whom u are a teacher to, to justify them coming to u Otherwise blah blah blah... shows how unintelligent u are. it's as if the students had a freakin choice Not to come to u, and we can't even verify if u're just conveniently using examples of a few to make yourself seem more approachable than u actually are. judging by your attitude in this forum, i have serious doubts.
u keep saying that pple use personal attacks, How abt yourself? how can u in all good conscience, disregard your lame references and daringly make yourself out to be a victim?
u have a serious problem with comprehension becos u completely screwed up my post abt those who ostracize prc's etc etc to mean a different context and argued it for the sake of arguing. my stand on the issue was clear from the very beginning But like everything else, u read with the intent to argue and show how smart u are when u consistently display your poor comprehension. Even after realising u screwed up, u proceed to cover your ass and weasel your way out.
u have very poor integrity and character. this is how i would say it.
But, if i wanted to say things that way denise says it... i would say, "for a teacher, u have very poor integrity and character".
yes, that is precisely how u make your personal attacks... u clutch on to anything u can to negate and insult the person. u always hit below the belt. anyone with some intelligence who bothers to run thru your posts can see that is how u operate, always kicking pple below the belt, then playing victim and running to make frens with anyone for the moral support u need.
this is why i said despise u. i dun despise easily, i never even had that feeling with Watching despite having protracted arguments with her some time back, if i can rem. i despise u becos u Betray yourself and all goodness just to win arguments.
miloice
Well-Known Member
Don't you get the feeling this seems like a sequel of the earlier episode?
I disagree on the point that for rules can be challenged and changed after students have grown up and 'lead the world' before influencing or changing the way schools function based on rules. Do we really need to wait an entire generation to weed out any irrelevant rules?
Just look at how the issue of homosexuality, after all the coverage, discussions, the reasons given to shelf the entire saga is just lame. A typical example of how things work here. Let's not pretend that every rule enforced are with good reasons. Often, the rationale not want to change rules are politically motivated. We don't just see it at a national level alone, it happens in most organizations, civil service sectors and corporate as well. However, this is much more dominant in organizations where there is an autocratic management in place such as the military.
I agree with Toma that all sorts of reasons are invented to justify rules. It is happening all the time. People are so accustomed to live with it believing that we need to be in power to influence, else we just follow. This mindset is instill in our environment since the early age in our society. It is suffocating the mind to only live within boundaries defined. It is a very asian thing that we instill fear to make someone conform. We see how parents scare their children with all kinds of untrue warnings to make them behave. Asian culture are much more accustomed to suppression by authority.
I disagree on the point that for rules can be challenged and changed after students have grown up and 'lead the world' before influencing or changing the way schools function based on rules. Do we really need to wait an entire generation to weed out any irrelevant rules?
Just look at how the issue of homosexuality, after all the coverage, discussions, the reasons given to shelf the entire saga is just lame. A typical example of how things work here. Let's not pretend that every rule enforced are with good reasons. Often, the rationale not want to change rules are politically motivated. We don't just see it at a national level alone, it happens in most organizations, civil service sectors and corporate as well. However, this is much more dominant in organizations where there is an autocratic management in place such as the military.
I agree with Toma that all sorts of reasons are invented to justify rules. It is happening all the time. People are so accustomed to live with it believing that we need to be in power to influence, else we just follow. This mindset is instill in our environment since the early age in our society. It is suffocating the mind to only live within boundaries defined. It is a very asian thing that we instill fear to make someone conform. We see how parents scare their children with all kinds of untrue warnings to make them behave. Asian culture are much more accustomed to suppression by authority.
miloice
Well-Known Member
to add... challenging rules and its rationale doesn't necessary need to result in a change in the rule. There is a need to challenge to help someone internalize and understand the need for rules as well. The mind is developed when we ask questions and learn to see it from more than a single perspective.
A thinking person isnt one that is uncooperative and difficult.
A thinking person isnt one that is uncooperative and difficult.
I guess if I had the need to garner what strength or do not have integrity like what Powder said, I would have borrowed strength from clark kent the superman and not agree with yesno333, someone whom I used to disagree with on another issue. Some people in life are just not focused on the issue at hand. They digress and digress. I don't bear grudges too and read all posts openly. An interesting thread on education here but ppl have to spoilt it first by calling my ideas retarded and then later Powder comes along with a second attack on how I should not use 'For someone xxx, I would expect...' Whatever lah...if you guys cannot discuss a topic without using words to put ppl down first (yes, this word is important because my unfriendly words only came on to retaliate and even then, they're too mild for you), then don't post anything here. Oops, freedom of speech huh...then don't bother me. I'm just here to share my retarded opinions (oh no, am I guilty of making myself a victim again? hahahahha) You ppl are nuts. I still stand by more mature posts from ppl like Milo who need not use strong language to disagree. Neither does he put ppl down. And I can continue to disagree with him on some points without feeling the need to 'attack' since he's never aggressively attacking ppl anyway. Something for 'gentlemen' like Powder and Toma to reflect upon.
I like your last sentence, Milo, on 'A thinking person isn't one that is uncooperative and difficult.'
I'll however like to change that to 'A thinking person isn't necessarily one who is uncooperative and difficult' because there are just too many types of people on earth. I had very bright and thinking pupils who are self-centred, uncooperative or even difficult and vice versa. 'Thinking person' - has more to do with intellectual capacity I guess instead of personality.
I'll however like to change that to 'A thinking person isn't necessarily one who is uncooperative and difficult' because there are just too many types of people on earth. I had very bright and thinking pupils who are self-centred, uncooperative or even difficult and vice versa. 'Thinking person' - has more to do with intellectual capacity I guess instead of personality.
yesno333
Member
Actually wat i wanted to point out to everyone is that....since we are toking abt hair...why dun we just concentrate on toking abt hair...why deviates to pin-pointing one another...really dun get it....everyone are going to have their own views and perceptions on a particular issue...if u dun agree just voice out ur concern...people coming here are probably old enough to differentiate rite from wrong.....><"
Not forgetting that those who come to forum often come mainly to seek advice...sometimes i really dun understand why it can turns to a war of words...aren't it much easier to just conc on the topic in discussion itself...
Oh ya..let me see initially i was call a cave man, then i hail from middle east..now i am suppose to migrate to north korea....the next thing i know i am empty...blah blah...wonder wat's the new title coming soon...can't wait to hear it....
Considering the fact that i am already COO level in the current company i am working in...i assume that those who assign me titles must be CEO n above then....how wonderful this is....><"
One thing i am very sure, when i am in board meeting things never escalate to the point of names calling or watsoever...but then again...maybe in some of ur companies...God knows
Not forgetting that those who come to forum often come mainly to seek advice...sometimes i really dun understand why it can turns to a war of words...aren't it much easier to just conc on the topic in discussion itself...
Oh ya..let me see initially i was call a cave man, then i hail from middle east..now i am suppose to migrate to north korea....the next thing i know i am empty...blah blah...wonder wat's the new title coming soon...can't wait to hear it....
Considering the fact that i am already COO level in the current company i am working in...i assume that those who assign me titles must be CEO n above then....how wonderful this is....><"
One thing i am very sure, when i am in board meeting things never escalate to the point of names calling or watsoever...but then again...maybe in some of ur companies...God knows
Fighting fishes and the player... You want to be fighting fish or the player?
Basically, such argument has no value.
So what I have an IQ of over 190? To you retards, I'd still be non-thinking. LOL~ But the thinking people will stir and play and watch the fishes fight and be entertained by the morons.
Education is not about personal preference, because you don't use that to change education, it's state business. Most of you just suggest your stance by how you yourselves want it to be without considering anything else.
This haircut issue is very simple, the teacher should have engaged the parents and know that the hair style was approved by the parents... The fault is both kid and parents. And yet, such small issue can raise a molehill.
Now which of you are really cool? You are just happily attacking Denise80 who knows she has a system to deal with as a teacher. I was a teacher, and I know certain things just can't be helped. But she is not guiltless for being just a low IQ human. She got stuck into the attacks and degrades herself.
There is no need for personal attacks or assumptions. Morons are just morons...
Education is serious issue... MOE focks it up, what about you people?
Basically, such argument has no value.
So what I have an IQ of over 190? To you retards, I'd still be non-thinking. LOL~ But the thinking people will stir and play and watch the fishes fight and be entertained by the morons.
Education is not about personal preference, because you don't use that to change education, it's state business. Most of you just suggest your stance by how you yourselves want it to be without considering anything else.
This haircut issue is very simple, the teacher should have engaged the parents and know that the hair style was approved by the parents... The fault is both kid and parents. And yet, such small issue can raise a molehill.
Now which of you are really cool? You are just happily attacking Denise80 who knows she has a system to deal with as a teacher. I was a teacher, and I know certain things just can't be helped. But she is not guiltless for being just a low IQ human. She got stuck into the attacks and degrades herself.
There is no need for personal attacks or assumptions. Morons are just morons...
Education is serious issue... MOE focks it up, what about you people?
Kent,
Just like those women who screamed about divorce... she chose to be a victim. I'd usually label them morons and let them bark and bark.
Besides, is she really a victim? She is experienced enough to be prepared for personal attacks. So don't worry about her. She got some brains, at least. LOL~
Just like those women who screamed about divorce... she chose to be a victim. I'd usually label them morons and let them bark and bark.
Besides, is she really a victim? She is experienced enough to be prepared for personal attacks. So don't worry about her. She got some brains, at least. LOL~
Scope, for once I agree with you. I am really not a victim here and neither am I trying to portray myself as a victim. People choose to be victimised because it's how they like to perceive themselves. Powder and Toma can call me names, despise me, say I have no or low IQ but that's their perception. The day I'm victimised is the day I start perceiving myself this way too which is ridiculous if that happens simply because of a few keyboard warriors in this forum.
Those women who screamed about divorce - why am I considered to be a vicim like them? Cmon I'm in a blissful marriage with a loving husband and I need not tell you or the whole world our lovey dovey stories every day. I am not a self-delusional person which is why when I have problems, I post here and not pretend my life's perfect. I still rem posting about my hubby's crazy driving and that has improved tremendously with both of us giving ways. At least he's now safer on the roads. Your strong desire to be the fortune teller here based on your personal judgement is emerging again. I've already told you...wait till I'm 60, I'll post here to tell you we're still holding hands to stroll in the park, okay? Duh.
Those women who screamed about divorce - why am I considered to be a vicim like them? Cmon I'm in a blissful marriage with a loving husband and I need not tell you or the whole world our lovey dovey stories every day. I am not a self-delusional person which is why when I have problems, I post here and not pretend my life's perfect. I still rem posting about my hubby's crazy driving and that has improved tremendously with both of us giving ways. At least he's now safer on the roads. Your strong desire to be the fortune teller here based on your personal judgement is emerging again. I've already told you...wait till I'm 60, I'll post here to tell you we're still holding hands to stroll in the park, okay? Duh.
main point to note - it is def useful for this topic that Denise was elaborating primarily based on the class lessons and interactions with her students ie. critical-thinking, expression of opinions.
that is to say - i don't think it had been purely academic for the kids, like how we must apply certain mathematics formulas. even with disciplinary rules that are dead fixed for the govt schools across the board, i believe the kids are still being engaged in topics with relevant thoughts-process, unlike our times. and unstifling the kids' freedom of choices - hair, clothes, whatnots - are still subjective to their innate character whether better or worse.
in short, i'd rather we focus more on the 'doable' than the 'unchangeable', given the way things are.
hence, notwithstanding this very basis of Denise's justifications, it just seemed like 'tomasulu's way or the highway', contextually - and to be honest, no one would let it go either.
that is to say - i don't think it had been purely academic for the kids, like how we must apply certain mathematics formulas. even with disciplinary rules that are dead fixed for the govt schools across the board, i believe the kids are still being engaged in topics with relevant thoughts-process, unlike our times. and unstifling the kids' freedom of choices - hair, clothes, whatnots - are still subjective to their innate character whether better or worse.
in short, i'd rather we focus more on the 'doable' than the 'unchangeable', given the way things are.
hence, notwithstanding this very basis of Denise's justifications, it just seemed like 'tomasulu's way or the highway', contextually - and to be honest, no one would let it go either.
miloice
Well-Known Member
on the saga... there are obvious inappropriate and overeactions actions taken by the parties involved.
For those that still insist to talk about hair... there isn't much to talk about... the topic has evolved beyond.
YesNo, you continue to harp like a victim of name-callings. You display selective memory. Stop being a hypocrite.
For those that still insist to talk about hair... there isn't much to talk about... the topic has evolved beyond.
YesNo, you continue to harp like a victim of name-callings. You display selective memory. Stop being a hypocrite.
tomasulu
Member
Denise you're funny. At some point you're questioning why I'm not trying to change the rules I have problems with. And yet later you acknowledged that it'd be impossible for me to do so. Well believe me i jnow that and thanks for helping me make my point. The school system is a microcosm of our society and the way it's being governed. Much was talked about consulting the people but very little was taken in and even less has changed.
I still remember the incident when kitaro was refused entry into the country because of his long hair. 30 years later and we continue to be obsessed with the length of hair. It's not your fault of course you're an employee of the state and it's your duty to see to it that the rules are observed in your organization. But you didn't have to jump in so eagerly and defended the rules so clumsily. That and only that was what attracted derision from me. We are not children here; we don't just nod and buy into some silly reasons for those rules. For each of those reasons you raise for having rules other countries have equally good reasons to do away with them. In Singapore my sense is that most people needed to be dragged kicking and screaming into a new world. And unfortunately we have very few who are willing to do the hardwork of dragging unwilling folks. I don't pretend to be different; I've no desire to fundamentally change anything beyond what's easy (e.g. Voting) or when rules adversely affect mine or my family's welfare. In other words I work within the rules and work my way around the system if I have to. And giving credit where it's due - we've way too many rules yes but my experience is that our civil servants are surprisingly helpful and flexible in trying to address my concerns.
Ps - develop a thicker hide. Feel free to call me names if it makes you feel better.
I still remember the incident when kitaro was refused entry into the country because of his long hair. 30 years later and we continue to be obsessed with the length of hair. It's not your fault of course you're an employee of the state and it's your duty to see to it that the rules are observed in your organization. But you didn't have to jump in so eagerly and defended the rules so clumsily. That and only that was what attracted derision from me. We are not children here; we don't just nod and buy into some silly reasons for those rules. For each of those reasons you raise for having rules other countries have equally good reasons to do away with them. In Singapore my sense is that most people needed to be dragged kicking and screaming into a new world. And unfortunately we have very few who are willing to do the hardwork of dragging unwilling folks. I don't pretend to be different; I've no desire to fundamentally change anything beyond what's easy (e.g. Voting) or when rules adversely affect mine or my family's welfare. In other words I work within the rules and work my way around the system if I have to. And giving credit where it's due - we've way too many rules yes but my experience is that our civil servants are surprisingly helpful and flexible in trying to address my concerns.
Ps - develop a thicker hide. Feel free to call me names if it makes you feel better.
yesno333
Member
If i display selective memory milo...u are obviously having problem recalling u are the one who started off with calling people caveman..To not see eye to eye with people postings is one thing, but to resort to name calling is another thing.....
After seeing some of the forum contributors display their aggression against u....it is obviously ur character leave one to have doubts on...
Lastly good to learn that u issue me another new title..."hypocrite"...><"
After seeing some of the forum contributors display their aggression against u....it is obviously ur character leave one to have doubts on...
Lastly good to learn that u issue me another new title..."hypocrite"...><"
Toma, this is a forum for gdness sake. I didn't come in to defend school rules as if it's a debate. If you think I've defended clumsily, I can only say that's because you didn't think rules are good to have to begin with. When I support for having certain rules in school, they're meant for kids, not even you the adult. So obviously I dun expect you to nod and buy in my 'silly' reasons for those rules. But if you are disagreeing that generally sch rules meant well and are good for your children, then I have nothing to say. Other countries might have done it differently and while SG does learn from other countries too (in case you do not know), we do not just subscribe to a whole new culture suddenly overnight for no good reasons. If you are a leader in your company (I don't know?), you should know that a company's culture takes time to evolve and it' not easy to win everyone over. Most people do not need to be dragged kicking and sceaming into a new world - this sounds lik enforcing some new rules itself...thought you didn't like forceful rules and regulations? In fact, most people need to be convinced about changes in life, whether to the rules or way things work. I go for the rationale , improvement and consider the opportunity costs (which is why I ask a bold question about what if we live in a world without rules at all - which you found preposterous), not for the constant need to be radically different and blindly embracing that foreign culture is always superior. I believe you don't mean that too.
miloice
Well-Known Member
I specially called you a caveman with relevant reasons already mentioned. If you want to dig, go read through that thread again. See when you started your defenses and insults. Suddenly, you took on the victim role and showed completely no recollection of any of the personal insult you threw. You continue to with that victim stand into other threads.
tomasulu
Member
Exhibit no. 2 - defending rules clumsily (while pretending not to do so)
Hehe just kidding.
Sorry your last post was a convoluted mess of illogical sentences falling over one another in a rush to get to nowhere. I'm not trying to be insulting ya just calling it as I see it. I don't like bad logic so I won't bother to reply. You won't like it if I do. Have a good one.
Hehe just kidding.
Sorry your last post was a convoluted mess of illogical sentences falling over one another in a rush to get to nowhere. I'm not trying to be insulting ya just calling it as I see it. I don't like bad logic so I won't bother to reply. You won't like it if I do. Have a good one.
I don't think it is school rules per se.. Most of us would agree to some sort of school rules - to enforce some sort of discipline.
But it is the humans, the teachers that are interpreting the rules.. the interpretations and applications that are our concern.
In the context of the student having longer than "standard" hair-style.. then what should the teacher be doing? It should not be the case of the hair is long therefore I am going to cut it anyway I deem fit. And if there is really a rule that says that if you child hair is too long (according to standard measurement), then the school will have the right to "anyhow" cut the hair? Did they publish this rule? If they did not then it is just zealous interpretation of the teacher. I have seen such teachers before. And it is seen in the army as well. When a person is in power, he will abuse it. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. It gives the person in power a "false" sense of superiority to impose their whims and fancies. This is what we should stop. You can inform the parents, warn the student or after repeated warnings, get the parents or barber to cut the hair. But personally cutting it to one's whims and fancies is not the right action. And I believe some teachers will still think they have the right to do so.
But it is the humans, the teachers that are interpreting the rules.. the interpretations and applications that are our concern.
In the context of the student having longer than "standard" hair-style.. then what should the teacher be doing? It should not be the case of the hair is long therefore I am going to cut it anyway I deem fit. And if there is really a rule that says that if you child hair is too long (according to standard measurement), then the school will have the right to "anyhow" cut the hair? Did they publish this rule? If they did not then it is just zealous interpretation of the teacher. I have seen such teachers before. And it is seen in the army as well. When a person is in power, he will abuse it. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. It gives the person in power a "false" sense of superiority to impose their whims and fancies. This is what we should stop. You can inform the parents, warn the student or after repeated warnings, get the parents or barber to cut the hair. But personally cutting it to one's whims and fancies is not the right action. And I believe some teachers will still think they have the right to do so.
yesno333,
board meetings are in a setting which are more goal/target oriented, they are not called for discursive purposes. there's always matters to address prior to action... so making a comparison between the 2 doesn't really put u in good light. besides, denise doesn't possess the mental capacity to sit on the boards of private companies, nor the right attributes to contribute to a company agenda as she places her own abv anything else - so it's rather moot.
name-calling is only name-calling if there's no truth in it... as far as i see it... u have a teacher who lacks integrity, depth and have comprehension abilities, coupled with insecurities that will see her bond with just abt anyone who is against 'the enemy', u have a coo-equivalent who didn't make himself clear and seems mono-focused on hair without the ability to look at the sub-plots and source.. and the other 2 anals who are here for gratification.
board meetings are in a setting which are more goal/target oriented, they are not called for discursive purposes. there's always matters to address prior to action... so making a comparison between the 2 doesn't really put u in good light. besides, denise doesn't possess the mental capacity to sit on the boards of private companies, nor the right attributes to contribute to a company agenda as she places her own abv anything else - so it's rather moot.
name-calling is only name-calling if there's no truth in it... as far as i see it... u have a teacher who lacks integrity, depth and have comprehension abilities, coupled with insecurities that will see her bond with just abt anyone who is against 'the enemy', u have a coo-equivalent who didn't make himself clear and seems mono-focused on hair without the ability to look at the sub-plots and source.. and the other 2 anals who are here for gratification.
yesno333,
give a read to the posts by denise... u will realise that there's a serious lack of substance, depth, true understanding and thought given.
the arguments put forth by her have been consistently lacking in the right ingredients that will encourage more in-depth analysis.
it seems she has not actually developed mentally beyond her schooling years... the construction of argument, the shallow references, the drawing of strength from fundamentally-inapt backings... shows how she is clutching to straws just to argue back.
her need to ally herself with some forummers, any forummers for that matter, even those who have displayed an utter lack of integrity - shows that when push comes to shove, she is not someone u can depend on. she will bail out. She masks this by acting as if she is magnanimous and doesn't bear grudges... but it's obvious on her biase and prejudice.
IF u cannot see thru all these... then it's rather sad.
give a read to the posts by denise... u will realise that there's a serious lack of substance, depth, true understanding and thought given.
the arguments put forth by her have been consistently lacking in the right ingredients that will encourage more in-depth analysis.
it seems she has not actually developed mentally beyond her schooling years... the construction of argument, the shallow references, the drawing of strength from fundamentally-inapt backings... shows how she is clutching to straws just to argue back.
her need to ally herself with some forummers, any forummers for that matter, even those who have displayed an utter lack of integrity - shows that when push comes to shove, she is not someone u can depend on. she will bail out. She masks this by acting as if she is magnanimous and doesn't bear grudges... but it's obvious on her biase and prejudice.
IF u cannot see thru all these... then it's rather sad.
Wow, I'm so used to being badmouthed.
Whatever you all want to say about me lah.
At the very least, I'm true to myself and have contributed my two cents worth. If you like to throw these two cents out of your window or radar, go ahead but there is certainly no need to deride me or judge my ability to be a teacher. My sense of worth as a teacher is not to be derided by keyboard warriors who never had been in my position before.
Whatever you all want to say about me lah.
At the very least, I'm true to myself and have contributed my two cents worth. If you like to throw these two cents out of your window or radar, go ahead but there is certainly no need to deride me or judge my ability to be a teacher. My sense of worth as a teacher is not to be derided by keyboard warriors who never had been in my position before.
Ally with forumners here? LOL...what you just wrote to yesno333 isn't an attempt to change his opinion about me so that you could garner strength? LOL! The pot calling the kettle black!
Haven't developed my mental capacities beyond schooling years? Pretends to be magnanimous? Sorry. I truly believe yesno333 is still a good-natured person despite that post that I didn't like when he talked about women performing in bed as long as the men are able to pay. And I gathered this from is posts elsewhere and not just in this thread. It's my personal opinion. Do I even need your validation? Duh. The funny thing is, Powder, on the school rules or hair issue, did I even disagree with you here? I should be right since I'm full of prejudice for ppl like you? I don't think I did. I was disagreeing with Toma's points. Now that you're joining him to deride me, what does it say about you actually? Think harder and reflect.
Haven't developed my mental capacities beyond schooling years? Pretends to be magnanimous? Sorry. I truly believe yesno333 is still a good-natured person despite that post that I didn't like when he talked about women performing in bed as long as the men are able to pay. And I gathered this from is posts elsewhere and not just in this thread. It's my personal opinion. Do I even need your validation? Duh. The funny thing is, Powder, on the school rules or hair issue, did I even disagree with you here? I should be right since I'm full of prejudice for ppl like you? I don't think I did. I was disagreeing with Toma's points. Now that you're joining him to deride me, what does it say about you actually? Think harder and reflect.
seriously, i'll be the first to admit that i don't quite see where powder is coming from. perhaps, i'm in and out of this forum periodically to understand the full picture, and prefer to address context instead of intent.
re. this issue, i do view Denise's ground work rather viable to conclude my opinions on rules vs learning process - as initiated by tomasulu.
and i'm not allied with anybody, for that matter.
re. this issue, i do view Denise's ground work rather viable to conclude my opinions on rules vs learning process - as initiated by tomasulu.
and i'm not allied with anybody, for that matter.
Denise80,
Waliao, you really can't think. LOL~ I was merely saying you chose to be a victim and you go into your marriage again. Those screaming hell here chose to be victims of marriage lah...
Look at Vios, he can say what he likes, but is it me? He's just a moron, I laugh at him, at what he said, entertained by his foolishness... and then I leave for other forums for more entertainment. That's maybe because I have IQ of above 190. I see you people from a higher plane. And I never got upset with morons...
If you enjoy arguing with them, you will be my fighting fish. Just know that it is considered retarded to take stone walls seriously because no amount of time or arguing will be productive. If you are happy doing useless things, be my guest. LOL~
These people are delusional... I can see from you people's advices to others...
I so enjoy watching you people fight and stirring the tiny forum of fighting fishes... LOL~
Waliao, you really can't think. LOL~ I was merely saying you chose to be a victim and you go into your marriage again. Those screaming hell here chose to be victims of marriage lah...
Look at Vios, he can say what he likes, but is it me? He's just a moron, I laugh at him, at what he said, entertained by his foolishness... and then I leave for other forums for more entertainment. That's maybe because I have IQ of above 190. I see you people from a higher plane. And I never got upset with morons...
If you enjoy arguing with them, you will be my fighting fish. Just know that it is considered retarded to take stone walls seriously because no amount of time or arguing will be productive. If you are happy doing useless things, be my guest. LOL~
These people are delusional... I can see from you people's advices to others...
I so enjoy watching you people fight and stirring the tiny forum of fighting fishes... LOL~
denise, doggy powder poo is just trying to victimise and abuse you verbally.
you are not the first or last. He has been at this 'game' for too long.
You should see posts in other forums on his reputation, then u will understand.
He think he is GOD but in fact he is a DOG. just the opposite.
you are not the first or last. He has been at this 'game' for too long.
You should see posts in other forums on his reputation, then u will understand.
He think he is GOD but in fact he is a DOG. just the opposite.
Sm, I agree on your point that it's important that parents are informed on the school rules and punishments should students violate any of the school rules. In the first place, parents and teachers are partners in educating the child. With regard to this incident on STOMP, it is certainly not right of a teacher who is not professionally trained to cut the child's hair. Even if this is the school's decision, parents must have been informed and the school should allow wait time to get a sense of feedback for any new rule that may not be acceptable by the general public. The other general school rules apply though and the rationale of these rules other than the rules themselves must be communicated to the parents. No 100% of the parents will be pleased with all the school rules of course but the school will not and should not simply modify rules to pacify parents but to really think it through about whether certain rules are important and the values behind them.
erm no denise... i am really amazed with your comprehension. i would be insulting myself to ally with anyone here, let alone yesno333... u should really put in effort to read. not everyone needs support.
i have serious doubts as to his ability to read and discern in the first place, but benefit of a doubt - i gave him a quick run-down on how shallow u are. will see what he has to say... for u - dun think there's more, u are really shallow and unbright.
i only hope the subjects u teach have nothing to do with existentialism and the deeper meanings of life & things. i can't imagine u teaching a subject which u are totally unfamiliar with.
now, that is the freakin low blow u have been exhibiting in a majority of your posts.
i have always been on my own... something u would Never understand.
i have serious doubts as to his ability to read and discern in the first place, but benefit of a doubt - i gave him a quick run-down on how shallow u are. will see what he has to say... for u - dun think there's more, u are really shallow and unbright.
i only hope the subjects u teach have nothing to do with existentialism and the deeper meanings of life & things. i can't imagine u teaching a subject which u are totally unfamiliar with.
now, that is the freakin low blow u have been exhibiting in a majority of your posts.
i have always been on my own... something u would Never understand.
If you're not garnering yesno333's support, may I know why you need to give him a quick run-down on my weak points? Just to see what he has to say about me?
So in this thread about school rules and all, you're badmouthing me because you find me without brains etc? Just like that?
So in this thread about school rules and all, you're badmouthing me because you find me without brains etc? Just like that?
Vios,
funny that only you found my discussion content worth reading somehow...but Toma just doesn't see it and consider them as retarded views/logic etc. But I guess if I didn't make sense at all, you wouldn't have found them relevant too. So glad to know that my contributions at least are worth reading to one soul even if the others think it's trash.
funny that only you found my discussion content worth reading somehow...but Toma just doesn't see it and consider them as retarded views/logic etc. But I guess if I didn't make sense at all, you wouldn't have found them relevant too. So glad to know that my contributions at least are worth reading to one soul even if the others think it's trash.
Anyway to all denise80's haters out there,
if you really think my posts are very low level to engage you, pls just don't respond. I'll still continue to post because it's my freedom to. If I ever point out that I didn't agree with your points and you think I'm rubbish, you can also choose to ignore me. By deriding me and calling me names like stupid, limited mental abilities etc are not going to improve my intellectual capacities. If you're intelligent, I'm sure everyone will know here. There is no need to repeatedly put me down to appear greater or more superior. People can read for themselves how smart or insightful you are as compared to how silly, stupid or superficial I am. The only reason that you're continuing to respond to me so negatively only shows you're just out to get me for god knows what reason. Pls kindly think about this.
if you really think my posts are very low level to engage you, pls just don't respond. I'll still continue to post because it's my freedom to. If I ever point out that I didn't agree with your points and you think I'm rubbish, you can also choose to ignore me. By deriding me and calling me names like stupid, limited mental abilities etc are not going to improve my intellectual capacities. If you're intelligent, I'm sure everyone will know here. There is no need to repeatedly put me down to appear greater or more superior. People can read for themselves how smart or insightful you are as compared to how silly, stupid or superficial I am. The only reason that you're continuing to respond to me so negatively only shows you're just out to get me for god knows what reason. Pls kindly think about this.
Frankly, you all can continue to respond to me by pointing out which areas you disagree with me or that my argument is flawed but there is no need to use 'retarded' (I'm sure we all know what this means), 'stupid' etc. Once you do this, it'll lead to a war of neverending insults hurling at each other and the topic becomes shifted out of focus. Let's just focus on the topics man.