shern.. haf to get better leh.. coz haf to go bak to wrk.. hai.. nw at work.. so sianz.. hw i wish can get 1 more day mc.. kekekek.. though its a sad sight to c our money gg into other ppl's pocket, i heard frm one of my elders dat giving APs is gd for us to receive luck or something gd to tis extend.. heh.. so i won't ponder over it liao.. kekeke..
heard my priest is a "very nice man" but donno how serious he is abt work. I always get impression the masses he conduct is like factory production coz he always chop-chop zoom through everything w/o saying anything extra.
hence his masses always end on time. tat's why initially I didnt want him to conduct our wedding coz I thot he was quite emotionless.
I wanted this other indian priest who always jokes around...but he said he's not going to be in town tat day so we had to go for the other guy. we were disappointed but had no choice.
however since then we have found out the indian guy is very serious abt procedures and details whereas the priest I got is a very nice guy. so everything turned out to be a blessing in disguise lor. hopefully my priest will be chin-chye during the pre-nup lor
sorry for late reply! think I must haf missed this thread....
my church wedding will be at Church of St Anthony at Woodlands Ave 1. its not very well-known and there are relatively few weddings held there. however the pp I have met or contacted in the course of my wedding prep are all very very nice
btw gals, anyone can forward me the soft copy of the mass booklet? mine will be a full mass. email: email@example.com
Hi everyone, im new here.. would like to know whether a divorcee be able to marry in a catholic church? (He did not hold any church ceremony in his previous marriage, he is not a catholic,but i am) thankzz..
just did the pre-nup with my priest. I don't think he can marry in church even though his previous marriage was a civil ceremony. I remember this issue was 1 of the questions being asked during the pre-nup when the Fr went through the list. perhaps to be clearer on this, u can talk to your priest?
got it! my FH got 'jealous' and asked why I anyhow "muark" other pp when he saw me replying u y'day, haha.....
I think since the marriage was a civil marriage and that he is not a catholic, i dun see any problem for him to marry in church. In the first place, the marriage is not recognised by the catholic faith and he is a divorcee.
That was what I understand from my priest. But it would be better for you to check with your priest.
errr...my priest is very chin-chye so he may not be a good gauge. he more or less stuck to the standard form which asks things like:
- are there any obstacles to our marriage?
- have any of us been married before even in a civil ceremony?
- are we related to each other closely, eg first cousins?
- is 1 of us from different religion? if so any apprehensions/obstacles/etc?
- are we criminals or on the run from a crime? (haha)
can't rem anything else from the form.....but the non-catholic one (ie me) gotta agree or acknolwedge tat I have no problems with a catholic wedding or bringing up my kids the catholic way. coz I'm non-catholic, our priest also has to seek a special dispensation from the archbishop for "disparity of cult".
also kena a long preaching from my priest who told my FH tat he's responsible for 'educating' and 'guiding' me, tat he has to explain to me the meaning of the masses etc etc.
tat's all I can recall. but think some other more sticky priests may ask more personal questions or smtg?
little_ger.. i dun really remember liao.. heh.. but i tot in our previous msgs, shern n i did tell u briefly the things the priest asked? hmmm... but based on demure's posting.. it roughly refreshes my memory.. heh.. sorry.. can't help much.. kekeke..
Hi little_ger, thanks for answerin.. which church r u from.. i have not check with the priest yet.. but from my understandin as what demure has said.. it is said that a divorcee is not allow to marry in church.. but some people said other thing.. is it different church or priests has different opinion? i tot it supposed to be standard? juz like ROM before marryin in church.. why some priests are ok with it.. some are not.. gettin confused..
Hi Cindy, on your questions...
Divorcee marrying in church: This depends on whether the divorcee is a Christian. Because when you marry in church, in the eyes of the Lord, you are married even if legally you are divorced. Similarly, even if you are married outside and have yet to marry in the church, your marriage is still not recognised in the eyes of the lord, though lawfully you are married.
Anyway, it is always possible for a divorcee to be married in church. But you would need to talk to your priest. The priest will give the couple counselling.
To find out why the person has divorced, or the marriage has fallen apart. Is it really circumstances, or it's the person's fault. And if they move on to a new relationship, would they have the same problem.
So i guess that's why the priests' answers are varied, because theoretically speaking, it can't be accepted if they are christians. But do ask the priest.
As for the ROM before church wedding. Yes, you are allowed to do so. For practical reasons, like getting your flat etc. HOwever, just because you are married legally, the church does not allow you to stay with your FH in your love nest. For practical reasons of course.
So do have a talk with your priest if you need more information. And they will give you an answer you need.
me got qn on different topic. I'll be having 6 jie meis but no bridesmaid. is it a must to have a bridesmaid for the church wedding? my FH will be having a best man n my friends say it'll be weird not to have a bridesmaid. for myself, the only diff I see betw a bridesmaid n my jie meis is tat she'll be walking down the aisle in front of me. otherwise her duties will be same as my jie meis which is why I don't think it is necessary to have a bridesmaid. all my jie meis are non-catholics n baulked at the thot of walking down the aisle in front of everyone. *sigh*
my future hb is not a catholic.. i guess alot of people would have all their brows raised if a divorcee were to marry in church.. hai~ have not spoke to any priest yet.. am i the only person facing such situation???
u din make it clear if you are a catholic and the purpose of marrying in church.
making it simple, if you are a catholic and u wanna marry in church, then many couples ROM in church itself during mass..when they sign the marriage register. Note that MOST priests are recognised with a license to legalise a wedding. You will make arrangements with the church then and the priest will guide u along as to what is needed.
And if you are just looking for a place to solemnise ur marriage... without going through mass and all.. then a church is not a place for that. However, this is not to say that if you are not a catholic u cannot marry in church. You can approach the priest of the church u have in mind. And state your intentions and he will be able to guide you along too. But reasons like to have a fairytale wedding or that the church is nice and i like the setting, aren't good enough a reason to hold a marriage in the church.
Hope it helps
I am a catholic (sorry tt i din clarify tis in my prev msg). And have the intentions to solemnized/ROM at church. But not tto sure how I can go about it. I understd tt we hv to undergo MPC/EE. But how do we go abou tt?
p/s: My FH isn't a catholic.
Yes you are right. The church requires couples to go through either MPC/EE or a counselling period with the priest (For those who can't get a slot for the MPC or EE programme). Anyway, for EE you can register online... just type Engaged Encounter in yahoos! and search under Singapore. That would cost you about 170 a camp. Personal advice take a day off before and after the camp. Cuz it can be mentally draining. Loads of sharing and talking things through.
Not too sure about MPC but u can ask your church.
No problem if your fh isn't a catholic. The camp is not a evangelistic camp.
So dont worry. BUt masses will be said each day to allow your fh to understand what your faith is about.
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hi to all,
i'll be holding my church wedding in july. i have a few queries that i hold i can find the rite answers in this forum, hope all can help.
1) how does the bride make her way to the church? if we were to follow chinese tradition, the bride needs to be under the umbrella while waling towards the car in the open, do we need to follow that?
2) if we dont have gate crashing, how to do the tea ceromony? We are thinking of doing it after our church, where all our relatives dismiss from the church and proceed back to individual parents' home. Then we'll go the guyz hse follows by the gal hse.
3) basically the bride will make her own way to church without the fanfair rite? Is there anything else the guy can do for the gal, except for waiting at the church?
4) Any chinese customaries stuff we need to observe for church? im quite confuse becos itz a mix of western culture but yet with chinese tradition..
5 Lastly, i hope i can hear from married couple/ or anyone who have seen others doing church wedding w/o gate crashing to tell me wat to do...
Its no problem having a church wedding w/out gate crashing and going back to individual parents' home for the tea ceremony, I just did it the same procedure as you mentioned for my wedding... But the only thing is that the church mass has to be early in the morning.. I had mine at 9am followed by reception @ church and then proceeded back to HB parent's place for tea ceremony and then back to mine..
FYI, I made my own way to the church with my bridesmaid in our wedding car..
Hi coffee, to answer your questions, you need have discussion with in law and parents side :
1. Do they have the "timing" what time they have to go back for tea ceromony? in law and parents side?
2. U need have a wedding itinerery to help facilitate the AD event.
3. What time is "press bed" (mandarin) if required?
4. What time is your am/pm church mass or service? buffet lunch of tea reception?
5. Tradition time to wake up for your dialect group?
When you got all the above, you can plan an eg as follows (my fiance not catholic so we have different timing for tea ceromony) :
6.30 : Bride wake up
7.00 : Arrival of MUA
7.30 : Arrical of jie mei
8.00 : Gate crashing
9.00 : Leave for in law place
9.45 : Reach in law place - tea ceromony
11.30 : Get ready for church
11.45 : To reach XXXX King Church
12.00 : Mass service starts
13.00 : Mass ends followed by buffet reception
13.30 : Tea ceromony with parent's side in church hall when guest leaves
14.30 : Leave for hotel / rest
1800 : Arrival of MUA
1900 : Get ready for cocktail
1930 : Wedding banquet starts
23.30 : Wedding banquet ends
REMEMBER GET THE INFORMATION first than you can plan the itinerary in details as above is only a guide.