Can a marriage survive without SXX? Please help to advise.


Clark,

Everyone has their 'crap', it's just sharing of views. There is no need to be so bothered. Make good use of the craps is the point.

Even that Milo, he does have some problems... but not everything he said is crap. We are living in a world of differences... I don't like craps as well.
 
Scope Guy, I agree with you that love can fade for many and many end up stuck in loveless marriage. You claim that you are committed to love and your love wouldn't fade but doesn't believe others can do the same? Correct me if i am wrong.

Well we have been together for 4 years+ so i don't think we are still in honeymoon. But yes, long long time ahead of us. At least 30 years more till we die.

Hmmm... which country has perfect people who are more committed to love?
 
Scope guy, actually, all these while, no one really knew or bothered what happened or if your account was suspended. Some of your posts were removed and u suddenly disappear.

Now, you have clarified that you were actually banned. You probably need to contact the admin if you want to know more about it.

Anyway, as much as you would like to think it was me that post your photo in this forum, that is not true. Your memory has indeed failed you. However, I did suggest that everyone should protect their identities online as its very easy to do a search via the internet. Someone else post your photo and everyone had a good laugh.

You could probably dig through the archives to validate this provided it was not removed together during the banning.
 
Scope guy, it definitely proves my point in my thread. Just be nice and less arguement and debate makes the world more peaceful and yes, we all know you are a great lover so cheers to that.

Live happy
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Torn guy, everyone in my life tells me i am a faithful husband and a great lover! They always praise me for the things i have done. My wife says i am the greatest husband in the whole world. Can you repeat that i say so in the thread?
 
Lee,

Just because others are stuck you think I also should follow, or compare with them?

What is 4years compared to a lifetime? I don't understand. You think those who strayed married without 10 years of honeymoon, the same thots as you, and... ask Torn Guy.

Milo,

I don't remember people here laughed at my photo than my concern about saying that I look like that Zhou Chong Qing bugger... because the photo is so focking small.

Besides, why should I contact the admin? It's obviously he/she is crazy to ban me, and I am going to beg him or her to restore when I am more reasonable?

Maybe it's not you. But I do remember you got a problem. LOL~

Torn Guy,

How can you prove a point with what you never understood? LOL~

There is nothing about argument. It's about how I see things and how they/you want to see things...

If Denise80 and folks think everything is ok, that's their problem. You don't need to know I am a great lover. LOL~ My women know can oredi.

And, remember, you are the one who brought this up. I only had the courtesy to respond in frankness.

Clark,

You are not authorised to move the contents around without my permission. But you can visit scopettg.wordpress.com and see them there.

I do pictures as a hobby, it's also the culture of the blog.

And I blog nosense to kill time.

I have nothing to hide. LOL~
 
Lee, then good for you as well. Didn't know people like to highlight that a lot of people priase them in the world. Ok, standing ovation to you as well.

Cheers to that
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World is indeed getting more perfect.
 
Folks, let's just keep everything calm ok? It is obviously even looking at my own post aren't getting anywhere unless you looking at proving each other's point with a sword fight to the end.

Each it's own....I gladly stand down first but thanks, the debate did offer some light on certain aspect.

Have a good day!
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Read properly "You probably need to contact the admin if you want to know more about it."

I didn't say you have to contact the admin. You think the admin is crazy, fine.

However, its pretty obvious that a ban probably suggest a violation of the rules and regulations of the forum.
 
Milo,

Whatever, this is a forum, and it isn't belonging to me. I respect the crazy ban, and I'd just log in with another name nia.
 
No no no... everyone including you will be stuck. And i am the one with the higher definition of love. Everyone around me said so too. I will not stray even after honeymoon or after 10 years, 20 years or the next lifetime. My fortune teller already tells me so.

Ask torn guy? Never! Why do i ask someone who rejects girls when others push girls to him.

You guys will never understand what i am saying because you are nothing than mortals in this world.

From Prince Charming
 
Well, parts of the debate does make sense to some situations and i couldn't agree more with you. But when you generalise every situation and every people with your slogan, "all of you are doom to fail no matter what your current situation is" then it kind of defeats the purpose of actual conversation. So since it is spiraling down that way, i might as well join your way of speech. I thought this will make sense for you.
 
Scope Guy

Yes I agree with you that generalizing men and relationship does not need any thinking. Just a fixed sentence for all situations.
 
Lee,

I sense you are very young. I have seen people like you. By the way, what do you think about Irene kang when they dated and married?

Lust... the basic of human instinct.

You have not come to the stage when your wife is about totally shutted off from sex... and/or facing that sweet young thing.

Say so much is pointless. For most of you, love fades, sexual needs towards the women fade along as love fades.

It's also true for a group of women.

They only live once, and some tried to break free from marriage to enjoy being a woman.

In Singapore, a very high proportion of marriage is... love fades, what is left is commitment and unhappiness. And when their children grow up, they suddenly realise they are too old to choose again.

Like you... At present, you can say alot. No offence, but I speak from tons of experience.

Which of the newly-weds don't have honeymoon years?

Just becos toys was your everything when young doesn't mean toys will be when older... I suggest you look at life from a lifetime, Lee.

Clark,

You sure you understand? LOL~ Good.

Fly to the kitchen and make me dinner. LOL~

Kidding.

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There is no need to be enemies holding different views.
 
Scope, you really begin to sound really contradicting...

Your 'highest form of love' doesn't include commitment I guess. All those things you said about what love fades, sex fades and left only commitment and unhappiness. In the first place, if there isn't love, why would there be commitment?

So are you staying single so that you could always enjoy your highest form of love and sex and each time these faded, you'll be in search for another who gives you these feelings?

If you truly love someone, it's never about honeymoon years. If you love someone, you'll accept the ups and downs in a relationship. Your 'ideal relationship' with someone seems to suggest there isn't any flaw in the relationship or there isn't any conflicts at all. I then suggest you to look at life as a lifetime.

You said for most of us love fades and sexual needs fade. What makes you so sure about this sweeping statement? We can love someone even if sexual needs fade. Again, you've overrated sex in a marriage. You said you speak from tons of experience...and you frown upon marriage because it's a system to you....have you been jilted in a marriage before and that made you so critical towards marriage? So much so that when ppl talk about their marriage problems, you magnify them or if we talk about our blissful marriage, you write them off as blind optimism and wait till the husbands encounter sweet young things? My god, you just painted every man as 'pedophiles' to be, always going for sweet young things...just because they have dicks.
 
Denise80,

There is no contradiction.

I am not saying that there is no ups and downs that people won't accept.

But yes. I desire no flaws in a relationship.

It's not a sweeping statement with the high divorce rate in Singapore backing me up. LOL~

I am sure from a woman's point of view, you can like someone even if sexual need fades. It's a biological issue I have long mentioned, especially when women are designed to stop participation in reproduction at a certain age...

...but man will continue in this till they die.

Denise80, I didn't paint anything. It's science.

That's why the One, because you'd need true love for a man. Like I told you, for a man, sex is from the brain, and what triggers the brain to trigger an erection is literally love (other than rubbing the dick). Ie. It's a simple LAW that if the man loves you forever, outside sickness, a woman shouldn't have a problem with sex until she expires.

And MIND YOU, a man's sexual urge may be accomodated for months... but how about for years, after the woman stop feeling the need? See?

It's called a sexual urge not because of nothing, Denise80. That's why when a woman takes marriage a decision, she mostly already fails.

And scientifically speaking, believe it or not, since your spouse had strayed before in a relationship... it's usually unusual to assume because of that he would not stray. Instead, the general pattern is, a man will stray will just stray again. And... given that you are so young, sex has become so unappealing...

It's a warning sign. Remember, you have a long long road ahead in this system called marriage.

While I do agree that marriage includes a lot of things, but once he strays... will the 'inclusion of other things' means you'd be ok? LOL~

LOL~

The ones who are contradictory are you people... seeking to fight science... trying to defy nature... without the need to understand the need for high definition love.

I jolly well stay single. Like I said...

Why marriage when there is only friendship but no love? Why sex when there is no orgasms?

Unless...

You are married only for the sake of it. And marriage is only a system, there is no such thing as blissful system.
 
Milky way exists because I lao sai, the shits usually orbit Saturn lah~

Actually the moon is bits dug from my nose.

LOL~
 
Scope Guy

I agree with you that all those things happen when the love for each other goes down hill. By looking at the divorce rates and unhappy marriages, I do not dispute your claims that a lot of men can't control their men instinct. But I think you should stop using your tons of experiences you gathered in nightclubs from men, the bad marriages around you or you personally might have. And denied yourself from a possible good healthy relationship.

Here we are trying to convince you that your fairy tales of everlasting love does exist in this world. People do get faithful to one another despite all odds and the constant temptations that is everywhere. But you doesn't seems to think that it will happen despite the constant self declared lover that you have been. I have seen and acknowledge that relationships can go both ways and you just need to be sure of what you choose and dive towards it, for better or for worse.
 
Lee,

Interestingly, I don't go to clubs. And many examples are from men who don't.

I never said everlasting love doesn't exist. That's why I said you should read carefully.

In this case itself, I said many times... If Tina met her One, sex would not be the issue... despite the man shall request it again and again.

In Denise80's case, sex is already a problem. If she thinks sex can be better, sex won't be that good to the man and mostly, it's worse on the man's side. Sex, I sense, has become a routine... an obligation in Denise80's case.

That's why there is a communication issue. Best friends who talked on everything doesn't mean can understand everything. Denise80 is still young, what happened when she is old... and ugly?

In a way, needing to spice things up already show clearly that love is fading. Everlasting love is everlasting, Lee.

Still don't get my point? LOL~

Clark,

The rain is my saliva, mixing with the pee sounding Singapore.
 
Scope Guy

I don't dispute the possible scenarios that might happen even though i don't think it will always happen. But what I don't agree is the negativity that you always link to relationship or the absent of the process of building up to the 'the one' story that you bring up once in a while.

Do you think there is a possibility that anyone including you, can find true love? I do.
 
Lee,

Of cos there is a possibility.

I am only going by the situation related to the case. It's neither negative nor positive as I go according to human behavior and biological assessment.

For me... the possibility is super low, because that sort of partner must be extremely special for a flawless relationship or rather... romance of a lifetime.

It's important to separate the concept of everlasting love and everlasting marriage. For me, it's always romance.

How possible is it in Singapore to find someone that 'suits' me? LOL~ You do believe that possiblity?

Everlasting love is everlasting. And the One is decided by Heaven, not us.
 
Scope Guy,

For you? Of course there is a possibility but i also agree with you that it will be super low in your version. In Singapore? stop joking man, it would be hard enough to find someone who suits you in the world. Maybe a place like Verona or somewhere like that can increase the odds.
 
Lee,

That's of course. I never denied that, did I?

I really need a woman, not a wife. Marriage is a fruit of love, not a desireable end or system.

Look at all those crazy women here... yelling and shouting their choices betrayed them, their sex sucks, they don't even know why married other than responsibility and commitment and...

For me... in Singapore? Yeah, you got it right... I want to find that woman who will love me like... forever. Then the vow can be possible.

Loveless marriage is like focking hell. And pretending to be great just because one sticks to rules of marriage means one never lived.

So yeah~

Mission impossible.
 
Scope,

"Loveless marriage" - your assumption based on some negative things we brought up about our marriages here
"Pretending to be great" - again, your assumption based on good things we said about our marriages here

Can I then assume that for all the negative things you said about our marriages, it's just sour grapes and that you are just 'pretending' that one day some woman will fall in love with you and be your 'that one' when you know deep down in your heart that you're incapable for having true love? Can I also assume that you are afraid of marriage because you've been jilted before badly? Duh.
 
LOL~

Denise80,

Sour grapes? I held onto this idea when I was in sec school time.

So assuming that, I doubt your assumption will stand. See?

You are not that good in debate. In a debate, it's best to assume logically and understand what the other people said and how to apply.

I started out finding girls after I finished my JC... In fact, during my JC times... I fancied someone... but never did anything. It was the biggest regret of my life. Now... she is COMMITTED to someone else... thinking probably like you people.

But throughout sec school to JC to then tertiary, I had attention from other girls. The issue is, I hold this notion of love right from the beginning.

To be honest... jilted is not the issue.

Like it or not, rejection has always been parts and parcel of romance, so how would 'be jilted' an assumption?

I don't understand the 'pretending that one day some woman will fall in love with me bla bla bla...'.

I am not really afraid of marriage. But marriage is definitely merely a system to me. But I am indeed afraid of women who comes to me in the hope I marry them... Given my experience... 99% of the women assume marriage as the... end of love. They want it... even if they don't really love you. They think they love you, but they don't.

See?

Denise80, look at yourself. You got a problem, you just argue and argue and argue... LOL~

It's NOT even my problem, darling. It's yours.
 
Scope: I wonder what good debates you present by citing 'Heavens, The One & Mortals'. And how did you arrive at your statistic of 99% of women assume marriage as the end of love? Based on what factual info? Debates require factual info if you think you're presenting good debates. I've never said I'm debating here besides the point that you don't even make a gd debater. This is a forum for us to air our views. So tell me, how did you arrive at 99%? If 99% of women assume marriage is the end of love, all the more they wouldn't put in effort in their marriage cos it's the end. We continue to love our partners in a marriage not stop there unlike your ideal world where you'll continually forsake others in search of your 'The One'.

Of course you wouldn't have problems cos you're an immortal. You THINK I have a marriage problem. I didn't think the problem I've cited was an indication of a 'loveless marriage'. But one thing I agree with Paperboat...I don't have to convince you that I'm having a happy marriage. The women here like me are just sharing our daily problems openly and honestly and they don't indicate marriage failure or loveless marriage like you've immediately assumed. We're just as honest as we can be when facing our problems.

Funny how that superman just flamed Milo each time he came online. Shouldn't he flame you too because you're regularly coming here to put everyone's marriage down? This is a forum for ppl to discuss their problems and you found this your outlet to consistently give your negative views without giving advices?

Now Point of Information, how did you arrive at the 99%? A good debater (so you claimed you are) must cite their sources of factual information.

Ahhh now we're reading more about your private life like how you're a sour grape just because you missed that JC girl and that she's someone wife now..supposedly in a 'committed and loveless marriage' as you would like to imagine? I think I'm beginning to understand the whole situation.
 
LOL~

Find me the 1% who would be with me without even the need to marry me. How about that?

Denise80, you are a teacher, and a sec school teacher somemore, and you are talking about flaming people. LOL~

I do miss her very much. But ever since I learn that she is married, I planned to freak her out to the point that I can be sweet to her... so that she'd be in her place, and I can send her flowers. Whether she is committed to a loveless marriage is not my issue. I only love her, not her husband.

And like I said, my idea about love started since I was in sec school... that's way before I met her.

A good debater need not cite the source; after all, this is not school debate. And I am definitely more backed up than you or paperboat.

And... when have I said here I am an immortal, mortal? LOL~

You are a teacher, don't assume on ridiculous basis.

Your problem cited is not about you, now... it's about you deciding for your man too much. See, Denise80...? You have fallen victim to marriage. The moment you try to decide for the other one, you already lost touch, and that is the communication issue.

You guys talked alot, you don't necessarily understand anything. He's a man, and sexual urge is defined as it is... scientifically so.

And yes. So young you already have an issue with sex... a man will have sexual urge till he dies.

What is sex without orgasm... What is sex without love and passion?

Denise80, why can't you just admit... you have fallen into a mundane routine.

Ego? Pride? Fear? Or pure ignorance? Don't you have a library you can visit in school to at least check up on biology? LOL~

No offence. Forget about the idea of flaming, Mrs Teacher...

Besides, you are not that young anymore.
 

Scope: I'm not as childish as you. I don't flame or debate here, whether school debate or not. Again, you never fail to bring up the fact that I'm a teacher and thus should be more this and that etc. You have just lapsed into stereotypes again.

Mundane routine? You still haven't got it that what is mundane routine to you is love to many partners. I doubt you'll find 'The One' attractive when she's looking haggard and cooking in the kitchen or when she does the household chores. These are the 'mundane routines' (so you claimed) that my hubby and I enjoyed. As we do our laundry, we whispered sweet nothings or tickle each other. When we cooked together, we played with flour and plant a kiss on each other's cheeks. You see, you have a totally different idea of marriage, associating it with 'mundane routines' and assumed it applies to like 99% of women. Then when these are presented to you, you would say, well just not YET..very soon 'things' will happen. Duh. Lastly, since when did I say sex with my hubby has no passion or love or orgasm? That's another assumption of yours simply because my grouse was the frequency is not high for babies making. Mister, frequency is no. of times, not diminished quality. You overlooked what I wrote because you already have your stereotypes of marriage. So what's your purpose here? Wake every one here up to get out of their marriage or what? Or...to forewarn those who have minor problems with their bfs here to not get married? Did you do this out of goodwill seriously?

LoL..I decide for my man too much? I think you forgot the fact that my hubby reads whatever I wrote here. On the contrary, aren't you deciding too much for many forumners here by making your strong groundless assumptions and even negative predictions?
 

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