Park Green
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curiouslee
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Hi Aries
Nice meeting you too.
Ive not move in. Like to know what has been happening around Park Green and what i should look out.
cheers..
Nice meeting you too.
Ive not move in. Like to know what has been happening around Park Green and what i should look out.
cheers..
curiouslee
New Member
hmmmm i should contribute my mag too.
curious
curious
hi everyone. i'm a resident at PG. a few contributions i have:
1) Car Park entrance - too narrow. car has got to make a sharp turn just so to get into carpark. Car park entrance should be widened to accomodate 2 lanes in order for 2 cars to enter simultaneouly. ridiculous design!!!
2) Car Park signages - too small and very badly located. no numbers and indications of basement lift lobbies as well. taxis usually have a lot of difficulty locating blocks.
3) Benches around PG - No benches around the estate for residents to sit on. No cosy corner within estate.
4) BBQ pit - poorly structured and constructed. cheap finishing. most pits are very dirty already. pit top is just constructed of cement and a layer of paint coated. Pit is also not rain proof as well. Imagine having to cancel BBQ bcos of rain.
5) reflexology walking path too near children playground. Very dangerous for kids running around.
6) swimming pool tiles very sharp. plastic drainage covers around the pool are also very filmsy. break easily.
7) car park - roof leaks. stains your car. impossible to clean off.
8) cheap landscaping - have you seen the lanscaping in other projects? compare that to PG. pathetic!
9) entrance pond - lights and fountain switched off every night. makes the entrance extremely dull looking. can't provision be made to leave it on 24 hours?
10) parquet flooring - poor quality. terrible workmanship. rectification work is worse. looks like we have to start wearing shoes at home to avoid getting cut by parquet panels.
11) Master Toilet marble tiles. no shine,white stains. Again, cheap tiles to be blamed.
12) reading room - under-utilised. shouldn't that room be converted into a minimart instead?
We have effectively about 1 month left to get anything done to our estate. After this period, nothing can be done. going thru Roland is NOT an option. going directly through SLF or NTUC will be a better option. Somebody should start a petition. something should be done now!!
1) Car Park entrance - too narrow. car has got to make a sharp turn just so to get into carpark. Car park entrance should be widened to accomodate 2 lanes in order for 2 cars to enter simultaneouly. ridiculous design!!!
2) Car Park signages - too small and very badly located. no numbers and indications of basement lift lobbies as well. taxis usually have a lot of difficulty locating blocks.
3) Benches around PG - No benches around the estate for residents to sit on. No cosy corner within estate.
4) BBQ pit - poorly structured and constructed. cheap finishing. most pits are very dirty already. pit top is just constructed of cement and a layer of paint coated. Pit is also not rain proof as well. Imagine having to cancel BBQ bcos of rain.
5) reflexology walking path too near children playground. Very dangerous for kids running around.
6) swimming pool tiles very sharp. plastic drainage covers around the pool are also very filmsy. break easily.
7) car park - roof leaks. stains your car. impossible to clean off.
8) cheap landscaping - have you seen the lanscaping in other projects? compare that to PG. pathetic!
9) entrance pond - lights and fountain switched off every night. makes the entrance extremely dull looking. can't provision be made to leave it on 24 hours?
10) parquet flooring - poor quality. terrible workmanship. rectification work is worse. looks like we have to start wearing shoes at home to avoid getting cut by parquet panels.
11) Master Toilet marble tiles. no shine,white stains. Again, cheap tiles to be blamed.
12) reading room - under-utilised. shouldn't that room be converted into a minimart instead?
We have effectively about 1 month left to get anything done to our estate. After this period, nothing can be done. going thru Roland is NOT an option. going directly through SLF or NTUC will be a better option. Somebody should start a petition. something should be done now!!
merci_puku
New Member
Basically, PG residents are kia-si and expect other ga rang residents to take the lead and wait to the reap the benefits. This is definitely not going to work as the developer will definitely ignore and push the complaints aside.
gg - several of these issues have been raised by us & others in the residents committee meeting, but to no avail. Points that were brought up (eg. poor quality flooring, rain water spilling into the front entrance, car park entrance design, etc) were all brushed aside by the MC with a "they comply with the construction regulations & are up to standard, blah blah..." or "we will look into it" - which basically means - too bad, live with it, which is what most of us are doing now.
They have yet to even put up the minutes of the points discussed in the last committee meeting from months back...and am still wondering when they will finalise the handover of the MC to the volunteer residents.
They have yet to even put up the minutes of the points discussed in the last committee meeting from months back...and am still wondering when they will finalise the handover of the MC to the volunteer residents.
curiouslee
New Member
Hi
Tho ive not moved in yet, i agreed with gg.
Ive recently put up a rectification for them. They didnt even bother to call me since wed.
Aries
Yes maint fee - we've been paying ..
Tied up with work/family, little time to scout for our furniture.
Target to move in b4 x'mas
Tho ive not moved in yet, i agreed with gg.
Ive recently put up a rectification for them. They didnt even bother to call me since wed.
Aries
Yes maint fee - we've been paying ..
Tied up with work/family, little time to scout for our furniture.
Target to move in b4 x'mas
We simply cannot live with such defects and poor design. If we do not unite and approach either SLF or NTUC soon, it WILL be too late. I am just sick of making that sharp turn just to get in the carpark. I am just too sick of taxi drivers getting lost trying to locate my basement lobby.
So, merci puku, stand aside and let us take the lead. We will start a petition, getting as many residents involved as possible. Maybe then will those guys listen to us. It's either that, or everyone just stop complaining on this forum!
So, merci puku, stand aside and let us take the lead. We will start a petition, getting as many residents involved as possible. Maybe then will those guys listen to us. It's either that, or everyone just stop complaining on this forum!
gg,
Oh, so I am not alone. The entrance and exit of the carpark damn stupid. I have to keep more right as my car steering wheel turning ratio is very short. If estimation not good that day, I have to reverse, then the guard will hold the barrier for me, else going to hit my car. The exit is damn steep, have to slow down to avoid hitting my front bumper. I doubt they will do anything about it. I thought of it also, they can shorten the right pillar so that drivers will have more clearance and will not hit the rear left wheel.
boh eng,
I hate the walk to LRT also. I really regret buying Park Green. First timer... should have buy somewhere near Central. Have to wait 5 years... My friend said that Seng Kang/Punggol is a district where "Birds also dun want to lay their eggs there!" Haahaa....
Oh, so I am not alone. The entrance and exit of the carpark damn stupid. I have to keep more right as my car steering wheel turning ratio is very short. If estimation not good that day, I have to reverse, then the guard will hold the barrier for me, else going to hit my car. The exit is damn steep, have to slow down to avoid hitting my front bumper. I doubt they will do anything about it. I thought of it also, they can shorten the right pillar so that drivers will have more clearance and will not hit the rear left wheel.
boh eng,
I hate the walk to LRT also. I really regret buying Park Green. First timer... should have buy somewhere near Central. Have to wait 5 years... My friend said that Seng Kang/Punggol is a district where "Birds also dun want to lay their eggs there!" Haahaa....
merci_puku
New Member
Hi,
I ambushed MP Charles Chong to highlight the poor quality of workmanship in the unit as well as common area while he visited PG two months back. But before the MP can respond, the Chief Architect, Tiong Seng and SLF interupted and dismissed it as an isolated incident and difference in expectation.
However, before the MP left he gave me his namecard to approach him if NTUC sits on the case and gather evidence or petition from other residents if they are affected as well. So to gather petition someone will need to schedule a date and time to gather the residents who are not happy with workmanship to discuss on the strategy to make NTUC pay attention to out concerns as well as lent a voice and more bullets for the current non-proactive Resident Committee which really need help from the rest of the residents.
I do not know how many of the residents actually feedback to SLF on the defects. But their approach is the divide and conquer strategy. Tiong Seng's previous call gatherings conducted in carpark is a show to NTUC to gather resident's feedback with a purposely faulty speaker system so bad that noone knows what the heck is going on other than the freebies and food with the loud music in the background.
It makes many resident wonder whether it is a consipracy to put up a show to NTUC that good points bought my some residents here were drowned by the speaker system and some really lousy points bought up by some people got the attention by Tiong Seng(For example: The swimming pool water is cold and want Tiong Seng to put in a water heater).
So gg it is up to you now to make it happen. I already got what I have wanted for my unit but I am still unhappy with the common areas defects which I think it will need to get the resident's voice to get fixed before Tiong Seng push it to the residents to take up the cost of repair after they leave.
I ambushed MP Charles Chong to highlight the poor quality of workmanship in the unit as well as common area while he visited PG two months back. But before the MP can respond, the Chief Architect, Tiong Seng and SLF interupted and dismissed it as an isolated incident and difference in expectation.
However, before the MP left he gave me his namecard to approach him if NTUC sits on the case and gather evidence or petition from other residents if they are affected as well. So to gather petition someone will need to schedule a date and time to gather the residents who are not happy with workmanship to discuss on the strategy to make NTUC pay attention to out concerns as well as lent a voice and more bullets for the current non-proactive Resident Committee which really need help from the rest of the residents.
I do not know how many of the residents actually feedback to SLF on the defects. But their approach is the divide and conquer strategy. Tiong Seng's previous call gatherings conducted in carpark is a show to NTUC to gather resident's feedback with a purposely faulty speaker system so bad that noone knows what the heck is going on other than the freebies and food with the loud music in the background.
It makes many resident wonder whether it is a consipracy to put up a show to NTUC that good points bought my some residents here were drowned by the speaker system and some really lousy points bought up by some people got the attention by Tiong Seng(For example: The swimming pool water is cold and want Tiong Seng to put in a water heater).
So gg it is up to you now to make it happen. I already got what I have wanted for my unit but I am still unhappy with the common areas defects which I think it will need to get the resident's voice to get fixed before Tiong Seng push it to the residents to take up the cost of repair after they leave.
curiouslee
New Member
Hi
ye .. i support petition.
cheers
ye .. i support petition.
cheers
I fully support the petition too. Esp to the MP. But take note if this goes public, not good for future resale value.
Also to take into account, ours is a cheap "condo"/EC. Dun compare with full-fledged condo. They used poor materials and workmanship, that's why the price PSF is one of the lowest out there.
So when is the gathering to sign the petition?
Also to take into account, ours is a cheap "condo"/EC. Dun compare with full-fledged condo. They used poor materials and workmanship, that's why the price PSF is one of the lowest out there.
So when is the gathering to sign the petition?
Limay, think the one on the 1st storey has been sold.
I agreed with Nutty that a petition to the MP would be good, if we have concerns. Merci, even if you have got what you have your unit, I believe PG residents would be grateful if you could share your experience. Think many may be ignorant and take what the main con said or suffering in silence. No doubt some are kiasi but believe that not all have leadership quality or guts like you (thus need pushing or comfort before going ahead), or did not have time to organise (e.g. working mothers who have to cope with hse work etc etc.).
I believe I will lend my support for the good of our development, whether I did suffer or not as this will make PG volunteers in the new mgt com work more better.
I do not see any issues on the future resale value as we are more confident to tell the world our development is of good quality. Good resident efforts would mitigate poor work, agreed?
gg, could you help to organise, pls.
I agreed with Nutty that a petition to the MP would be good, if we have concerns. Merci, even if you have got what you have your unit, I believe PG residents would be grateful if you could share your experience. Think many may be ignorant and take what the main con said or suffering in silence. No doubt some are kiasi but believe that not all have leadership quality or guts like you (thus need pushing or comfort before going ahead), or did not have time to organise (e.g. working mothers who have to cope with hse work etc etc.).
I believe I will lend my support for the good of our development, whether I did suffer or not as this will make PG volunteers in the new mgt com work more better.
I do not see any issues on the future resale value as we are more confident to tell the world our development is of good quality. Good resident efforts would mitigate poor work, agreed?
gg, could you help to organise, pls.
I think a petition to MP is better than calling the SLF or NTUC. Becoz, I actually called up this Eddie guy from SLF to complain about Tiong Seng's delay in doing my parquet flooring and their excuse saying they got problem with their contractor. And I also complain to Eddie saying Tiong Seng took months to get my retifications done. I demanded an explanation and compensation from him. But he just din do anything. All he did was to ask me hand in my retification forms to tiong Seng and he will chase them to do the retifications again.....
Angry....
I support petition. Think we deserve a better place and nicer environment.
Angry....
I support petition. Think we deserve a better place and nicer environment.
So I guess we are not alone here. Most of us share the same dis-satisfactions about the common areas. I seriously doubt these issues will be blown out of proportion, and end up in the press, resulting in bad publicity, if we decide to petition. Everyone involved in this project seems to be covering up for one another. Let's stop this game and unite. Sending a petition through our MP is an excellent idea. With enough signatures, I am sure the people in involved in our project would then sit up and listen. Let's focus on the main issues like the car park entrance and exit, the car park signages, the poor design and quality of the BBQ pits, low perimeter fencing. All other issues are pretty minor.
I suggest we get someone to draft a simply letter addressed to our MP and attach it to a list of signatures from all the disgruntle residents. CC this letter to Tiong Seng, SLF and NTUC. Maybe then will the actual people in charge will wake up.
We need 1 letter and several reps from different blocks to collect signatures. Speed is of absolute importance as the 1 year period is almost up.
I am currently attached overseas. We need someone to get this letter going. I am sure everything will automatically progress from there.
To get something clear. I am not just trying to stir shit and get someone to do the dirty job. We are all in this together! I would be glad to get my family members to put in the first signature. Let's unite. Don't let those guys divide us. We have to stay with these defects for at least another 4 years. Is this how we want to live? Let's get this going..
I suggest we get someone to draft a simply letter addressed to our MP and attach it to a list of signatures from all the disgruntle residents. CC this letter to Tiong Seng, SLF and NTUC. Maybe then will the actual people in charge will wake up.
We need 1 letter and several reps from different blocks to collect signatures. Speed is of absolute importance as the 1 year period is almost up.
I am currently attached overseas. We need someone to get this letter going. I am sure everything will automatically progress from there.
To get something clear. I am not just trying to stir shit and get someone to do the dirty job. We are all in this together! I would be glad to get my family members to put in the first signature. Let's unite. Don't let those guys divide us. We have to stay with these defects for at least another 4 years. Is this how we want to live? Let's get this going..
Getting into the car park takes effort, but it's certainly not difficult.
BBQs are produce smoke and oil. Of course the pits are dirty.
Kids run and fall anywhere. Moving the reflexology path changes nothing.
Never had a prob with the carpark roof leaking and I think the landscaping is good!
I'm happy that the pool lights and fountains are
switched off. It takes electricity to run these things and that costs money. I hope my maintenence fees pay for more important things like upkeeping the lifts and pool!
Frankly I have no real issues with Park Green. I'm not covering for other residents, what for? If anyone wants to start a petition, go ahead, but I think a lot of this dissatisfaction is undeserved.
BBQs are produce smoke and oil. Of course the pits are dirty.
Kids run and fall anywhere. Moving the reflexology path changes nothing.
Never had a prob with the carpark roof leaking and I think the landscaping is good!
I'm happy that the pool lights and fountains are
switched off. It takes electricity to run these things and that costs money. I hope my maintenence fees pay for more important things like upkeeping the lifts and pool!
Frankly I have no real issues with Park Green. I'm not covering for other residents, what for? If anyone wants to start a petition, go ahead, but I think a lot of this dissatisfaction is undeserved.
A few minor points here that I think PG can be improved.
a. Wooden handles in lifts - Recently, main con polished them but since they are made of soft wood, they will be scratched again in no time (Already got some scratches). Why not changed to aluminium handles. In the long run, we might save money.
b. Door entrance to lift from parking - door is low quality and get dirty very easily (That door is not going to last). Why not change to glass door? Makes entrance looks more grand as well.
a. Wooden handles in lifts - Recently, main con polished them but since they are made of soft wood, they will be scratched again in no time (Already got some scratches). Why not changed to aluminium handles. In the long run, we might save money.
b. Door entrance to lift from parking - door is low quality and get dirty very easily (That door is not going to last). Why not change to glass door? Makes entrance looks more grand as well.
merci_puku
New Member
BCA SCORE Structure Achitecture M&E Overall
Whitewater 94.1 / 80.8 / 96.7 / 87.1
Bishan Loft 82.3 / 80.7 / 93.2 / 82.5
Park Green 87.2 / 76.7 / 97.1 / 82.4
Novuo EC 89.6 / 82.2 / 97.1 / 86.3
Lilydale 84.8 / 69.1 / 78.8 / 75.6
Score given by BCA. Please take note that the finishing for Park Green is particularly poor.
Quote from BCA
i) Site inspection of internal finishes, roofs, external walls and external works at the completion stage of the building. Internal finishes include floors, internal walls, ceiling, doors, windows and components (architectural works that are not classified above).
(ii) Material & Functional tests such as water-tightness of windows & external walls and adhesion of internal wall tiles.
Whitewater 94.1 / 80.8 / 96.7 / 87.1
Bishan Loft 82.3 / 80.7 / 93.2 / 82.5
Park Green 87.2 / 76.7 / 97.1 / 82.4
Novuo EC 89.6 / 82.2 / 97.1 / 86.3
Lilydale 84.8 / 69.1 / 78.8 / 75.6
Score given by BCA. Please take note that the finishing for Park Green is particularly poor.
Quote from BCA
i) Site inspection of internal finishes, roofs, external walls and external works at the completion stage of the building. Internal finishes include floors, internal walls, ceiling, doors, windows and components (architectural works that are not classified above).
(ii) Material & Functional tests such as water-tightness of windows & external walls and adhesion of internal wall tiles.
grin, do you realise that the maintenance fees you pay right now covers all maintenance and utilities charges? The rest of unused funds go into profit for SLF. Do you seriously think that when our own Managegement Committee is formed, SLF will come out and say, "here, take back these unused funds"? The points highlighted are obviously bothering resident enough, that these issues are brought up over and over again in this forum and in all resident's meeting. Do you seriously think your approval is required here? Just because you have no problem driving in, does it mean all cars come in with the same ease. Have you seen the size of some of the cars here? Yes, somke and oil dirties the pits. But, if the pits are constructed of surfaces that are easier to maintain, wouldn't that prolong the life of the pits, rather than re-painting the pits every 6 months? In the first place, using painted cement top is totally unhygenic! And to think you are concerned with the use of maintenance fee!! In the long run, this is going to cost our MC a lot of money to upkeep. Do the math.
On the issue of landscaping. No one mentioned that the landscaping is bad. It's just cheap! there are also many bald patches in some areas of the project. Is that good?
Keeping the fountain switched off is a good way of conserving energy. Why not just switch off the air-con in the guard house as well? Or the spotlights shining on the "Park Green" signs? Or eben dim the car park lights further, just because you are already home?
You probably also don't have kids for you to worry about the close proximity of the reflexology rocks and the playground. I think residents with kids in the family are concerned with this issue.
I do not think we have a lot of time arguing amongst ourselves about these issues. They are real and require immediate attention. If you think these issues do not bother you or your family, don't sign the petitions when they come by. But just don't come to the forum and complain about issues that only affect you! I think that's a little selfish and totally goes against the code of conduct of communal living.
On the issue of landscaping. No one mentioned that the landscaping is bad. It's just cheap! there are also many bald patches in some areas of the project. Is that good?
Keeping the fountain switched off is a good way of conserving energy. Why not just switch off the air-con in the guard house as well? Or the spotlights shining on the "Park Green" signs? Or eben dim the car park lights further, just because you are already home?
You probably also don't have kids for you to worry about the close proximity of the reflexology rocks and the playground. I think residents with kids in the family are concerned with this issue.
I do not think we have a lot of time arguing amongst ourselves about these issues. They are real and require immediate attention. If you think these issues do not bother you or your family, don't sign the petitions when they come by. But just don't come to the forum and complain about issues that only affect you! I think that's a little selfish and totally goes against the code of conduct of communal living.
usually, i don't post a message less i feel strongly about it, or i'm on leave and have too much time. in both cases, grin, i agree with you totally.
c'mon, get a grip, don't slam another user for voicing out alternative and reasonable views. afterall, forum's should be about free but responsible speech right?
if anyone cares about what i think, my thought is that pg's a pretty decent property consider the price i paid. i've been to so-called "full fledge condos" with facilities and workmanship far less desirable. complain if you must, but be reasonable.
seriously, i'm more concern with my neighbours rather than these whole architectual bs. someone left his/her garbage in the lift at blk 6 again today. talk about communal living, huh? what's good if you have gold plated pool, 5-lane parking entrance for beemers and benzes, sub-saharan oasis vegetations, super-duper self-automated cleaning bbq pits but neighbours like this?
c'mon, get a grip, don't slam another user for voicing out alternative and reasonable views. afterall, forum's should be about free but responsible speech right?
if anyone cares about what i think, my thought is that pg's a pretty decent property consider the price i paid. i've been to so-called "full fledge condos" with facilities and workmanship far less desirable. complain if you must, but be reasonable.
seriously, i'm more concern with my neighbours rather than these whole architectual bs. someone left his/her garbage in the lift at blk 6 again today. talk about communal living, huh? what's good if you have gold plated pool, 5-lane parking entrance for beemers and benzes, sub-saharan oasis vegetations, super-duper self-automated cleaning bbq pits but neighbours like this?
Good points brought up. Neighbours we have got absolutely no control over. Defects and poor design, yes. I agree that we do not have ideal neighbours in PG, but hell, we have to learn to live with it. What can we do about it? Let's be practical. Unless you hit the European lottery and decide to buy over each and every unit in PG. That would then effectively eliminate misbehaving neighbours. Well, if like most of us with no such luck, we have to work with what we have and what we have control over, while we sill can. If it's common view that the architectural design and construction are up to standard, I seriouly doubt this forum would still be active today, with the same points brought up over and over again. Like I mentioned earlier, if any of us find the points extreme and unnecessary, let's just stop complaining and let's all just learn to live with it. Like I mentioned, neighbours we have no control over, so just learn to live with it. Let's not create Everitt Road Part 2. Defects and poor construction, we still have control. For 1 more month at least. We can continue bickering here till next month. Tiong Seng, SLF and NTUC would be more than happy. Is that what we want? Think about it...before you make any post.
Hi all,
It's been a long time since I last posted in PG's thread, thou occasionally I still come online to read what's been posted.
I am all for the petition, but what's gonna to make the petition successful is what we are going to ask for in the petition. Without any strong, compelling reasons to back up our petition/requests, I think the MP might not even want to get involved.
Pls allow me to raise one more concern which has not yet being brought up or probably forgotten by many.
During one of the residents' gathering, one learned resident did bring up the issue that our (front) main door is not made of solid timber. If I'm not wrong, I think I heard the chief architect or the TS pple acknowledged that our main door is indeed not made of solid timber. According to our S&P agreement, it was stated that our door should be made of SOLID timber. Since we have been short-changed here, it might be a good idea to include this in the petition, as I know that SLF/NTUC will definitely not entertain us if we write in to them to ask for compensation individually. For the benefit of the majority, I will be grateful to the person who is drafting the petition letter to include this in.
Please put aside our differences (in opinions) for the time being and stay united to do whatever we can before the handover. Anything after that will be too late... then we will have to live with whatever shit we have now should we not take any actions asap.
It's been a long time since I last posted in PG's thread, thou occasionally I still come online to read what's been posted.
I am all for the petition, but what's gonna to make the petition successful is what we are going to ask for in the petition. Without any strong, compelling reasons to back up our petition/requests, I think the MP might not even want to get involved.
Pls allow me to raise one more concern which has not yet being brought up or probably forgotten by many.
During one of the residents' gathering, one learned resident did bring up the issue that our (front) main door is not made of solid timber. If I'm not wrong, I think I heard the chief architect or the TS pple acknowledged that our main door is indeed not made of solid timber. According to our S&P agreement, it was stated that our door should be made of SOLID timber. Since we have been short-changed here, it might be a good idea to include this in the petition, as I know that SLF/NTUC will definitely not entertain us if we write in to them to ask for compensation individually. For the benefit of the majority, I will be grateful to the person who is drafting the petition letter to include this in.
Please put aside our differences (in opinions) for the time being and stay united to do whatever we can before the handover. Anything after that will be too late... then we will have to live with whatever shit we have now should we not take any actions asap.
Ah Eng,
You witness such cheapskate neighbour doing that??!! OMG! *faint*
I think you can complain to Roland to ask them to take action against the resident. I think maybe they will give him/her verbal warning, that's all. But being warned that way is kind of shameful isn't it? Not as if they can afford to stay in an EC and can't afford a miserable plant. The plants along the common area aren't that exotic, are they?? *LOL*
You witness such cheapskate neighbour doing that??!! OMG! *faint*
I think you can complain to Roland to ask them to take action against the resident. I think maybe they will give him/her verbal warning, that's all. But being warned that way is kind of shameful isn't it? Not as if they can afford to stay in an EC and can't afford a miserable plant. The plants along the common area aren't that exotic, are they?? *LOL*
Hi TGV, do you know who the 1 in blk 6 who had been doing the littering? if yes, than we should all gather our litter and put infront of his/her door.. c how they feel.
also got 1 resident in blk 6 frequently blast techno music very loudly which is very irritating and gives me a headache.. but im not sure which hsehold.. anyone can help?
Btw, not all neighbour in blk 6 are inconsiderate lah. My neighbour directing 1 level above me very considerate. they know that their plants had been 'littering' my balcony: at least one handful of dropped flowers and leaves everyday. they had actually shifted their plants more inside of their planter which had greatly reduce the plant litter in my balcony- thanks.
also got 1 resident in blk 6 frequently blast techno music very loudly which is very irritating and gives me a headache.. but im not sure which hsehold.. anyone can help?
Btw, not all neighbour in blk 6 are inconsiderate lah. My neighbour directing 1 level above me very considerate. they know that their plants had been 'littering' my balcony: at least one handful of dropped flowers and leaves everyday. they had actually shifted their plants more inside of their planter which had greatly reduce the plant litter in my balcony- thanks.
merci_puku
New Member
Contact information of our MP.
gg, I don't usually post here unless I'm worked up, and now am pissed off with your attitude.
As a resident of Park Green, I have as much right to voice my views as you do and you should remember that before you start flaming me.
The maintenence fee goes into a fund that we will need to draw on in a few years time when things start breaking down and a large cash outlay is required. And yes, if you want to use that fund for frivolous things like having the fountain on 24/7, then yes, I think that you had better have the approval of every resident who doesn't agree with you, including me!
Suggesting that the lights in the carpark and the aircon in guardhouse be switched off is just plain petty. The lights in the carpark are a safety issue that no-one will quibble with. The guardhouse? Those guards are there to ensure our security round the clock so we should treat them like dirt? Unlike these issues, I don't see any compelling reason for the fountain to be on 24/7, other than "makes the entrance extremely dull looking."
If our landscaping is not "bad", then should it matter that it didn't cost much? And maybe there are bald patches because people are digging plants up as someone mentioned. Do you still want to petition the developer for that?
I don't think painting the BBQ pits costs alot. Why don't you work out the math for everyone?
You THINK that families with children are concerned about the reflexology path. This is the first time I've heard complaints about it. Why don't you take a poll before making such claims.
In case you havene't noticed, I don't come to this forum and complain only about things that affect me. I think you need to realise that what you may consider bad or cheap is not shared by everyone else. And if you want to make changes that will affect every resident, then the majority have to agree, not just you! If you think that gives you the right to flame people who disagree with you, THAT'S selfish.
As a resident of Park Green, I have as much right to voice my views as you do and you should remember that before you start flaming me.
The maintenence fee goes into a fund that we will need to draw on in a few years time when things start breaking down and a large cash outlay is required. And yes, if you want to use that fund for frivolous things like having the fountain on 24/7, then yes, I think that you had better have the approval of every resident who doesn't agree with you, including me!
Suggesting that the lights in the carpark and the aircon in guardhouse be switched off is just plain petty. The lights in the carpark are a safety issue that no-one will quibble with. The guardhouse? Those guards are there to ensure our security round the clock so we should treat them like dirt? Unlike these issues, I don't see any compelling reason for the fountain to be on 24/7, other than "makes the entrance extremely dull looking."
If our landscaping is not "bad", then should it matter that it didn't cost much? And maybe there are bald patches because people are digging plants up as someone mentioned. Do you still want to petition the developer for that?
I don't think painting the BBQ pits costs alot. Why don't you work out the math for everyone?
You THINK that families with children are concerned about the reflexology path. This is the first time I've heard complaints about it. Why don't you take a poll before making such claims.
In case you havene't noticed, I don't come to this forum and complain only about things that affect me. I think you need to realise that what you may consider bad or cheap is not shared by everyone else. And if you want to make changes that will affect every resident, then the majority have to agree, not just you! If you think that gives you the right to flame people who disagree with you, THAT'S selfish.
Grin, it's this attitude that the developers are trying to achieve. Divide the residents and conquer. You have just been used as a tool. Think about the points you have just mentioned. We can spend the next 1 month arguing about your views. Just learn to stop complaining after that when the warranty window expires. You might feel that these points do not affect you directly, but do other residents feel the same way as you. If it is so, just ignore my postings. TGV was right about lousy neighbours we have. I was just contributing and compiling some points that may or may not affect most residents of Park Green. Well, Grin has made it seem like those were my personal views. Good luck fellow neighbours. I am pulling out. You guys are on your own. It's just not worth it. Park Green does indeed have weird neighbours! So, SLF, NTUC and Tiong Seng - YOU WIN!
The developers didn't divide anyone. What I posted are my personal opinions, made of my own free will. Don't see how the developers could have influenced that.
As for learning to stop complaining after 30 Sep... If you noticed, I haven't been complaining about anything recently.
Do other residents feel the same as you? That was exactly the question I posed to you. It does appear that those were your personal views. If you had intended to represent the views of most of the residents, I would have expected that alternative view points would elicit interest and not such a hostile response.
I'm perfectly happy with changes, provided that the majority of residents are in favour and nobody's opinions have been dismissed, the way you dismissed mine. I don't presume to know the opinion of every resident or speak for them. And I don't throw a fit if other residents see things differently.
It's too bad you think I'm a lousy or weird neighbour, but it really doesn't matter. As for being on our own, well, we are, since you're not even in S'pore.
As for learning to stop complaining after 30 Sep... If you noticed, I haven't been complaining about anything recently.
Do other residents feel the same as you? That was exactly the question I posed to you. It does appear that those were your personal views. If you had intended to represent the views of most of the residents, I would have expected that alternative view points would elicit interest and not such a hostile response.
I'm perfectly happy with changes, provided that the majority of residents are in favour and nobody's opinions have been dismissed, the way you dismissed mine. I don't presume to know the opinion of every resident or speak for them. And I don't throw a fit if other residents see things differently.
It's too bad you think I'm a lousy or weird neighbour, but it really doesn't matter. As for being on our own, well, we are, since you're not even in S'pore.