Annulment

It is very simple case..no kids involved..technically just married last july 3 2012..the guy is not here his in the phils..after our marriage he left singapore..he is willing to get annulled also...both parties are willing..i need a lawyer to handle with this..anybody can give me an feedback for this..just send me an [email protected]
 


Hey there,

You can call my lawyer Raymond 9760 7060 and says Willy recommend you.

By the way, if you are going for annulment, please make sure both party can declare that you have not consummate the marriage.
I originally planned for annulment as it seemed to be easier but eventually went for the 3 years divorce route instead.
After having been questioned by my lawyer if my ex and I had sex before, I decide to be honest and not lie about it.

I think It is near to impossible to find couple not consummating before and after ROM nowadays.

Good luck
 
Hi all,

I was waiting for my ex to do the annulment, he was a childish idiot, when he is happy, do every possible way to get me into signing the Paper and thg marriage was a happy ever after fairytales. And now he is not happy, he ask for annulment to go for separate way. I dont see the need to be with someone like this. felt threaten by his happy and not happy.

My question is, in the eye of law, when an annulment is made, it is a void marriage and its as good as we have not been married before. But when asked. Do we said we are single but married before or can we say we are single and not married before since in the eye of law, that this marriage is never exist at the 1st plc.

please help.
 
In the eye of law , you are not married and single but to others you are married before..But it all depend..Diff ppl got diff view..Anyway there are alot of such cases...when ask just say you are single lo..anyway they dont have to know your past...its also quite hurtful to mention it..maybe the only pax should know is your other half in future, i am sure you wont want to keep it till he find out.
 
Thanks breadpitz, I got a call from his lawyer, I was told he dont need to sign the paper at all and only me who needed to sign, is it true? I am not very sure about the procedures... He wants me to admit that I refuse to consummate with him after marriage I agree althg he is the one who is having problem... ..
 
If you are not sure abt the procedure you can check with a lawyer. What I know is if he is the one who file it , he got to attend the court hearing but you don't need.Take abt 3-6mth to get your final judgement to have your single status but the time frame will still depend on how complicated your case is.
 
Hi, may i know what are the questions will be asked during the court hearing and how long does it take? I am a lil bit nervous, my court hearing is on next Friday.
 
Hi breadpitz. I am not sure how complicated it is. But I feel that my case are not. We married for 4mths only and he decide to annulment the marriage due to an unknown future. He felt that we wont be happy in future and bring back all the past of unhappiness we had. he feel stress and drain by the wedding preparation which I am the one doing all.

The part of not willing the consummate thingy should be the best reason to expedite the court decision. However, there is 1 point stated the fact why I am not willing to is becos we have not gone thru the customary wedding. This infact worries me. As we are living in asian country, which religious disagree that as long as a customary wedding is not done, its not consider husband and wife? I have face the fact that the man I married was no longer the person I know and decide to accept it. But will such reason drag it and make it more complicated?
 
Hi all,

I had already done with on my annulment. I received my final judgement document in end oct.. kind of efficient. reason are the stupid reason which I refuse to consummate with him, well.. the judge buy that and granted the voiding of my marriage. But do take note of one thing. The reason will be indicated in the final judgement document... and it looks stupid on him and myself.

He: Void the marriage becos he cannot have sex
she: divorce becos she doesnt want to give sex

Such a stupid reason to end a marriage. But when u met someone who is not sincere with he/her vows and promises... and treated marriage like a game. This is what happen.
 
meimei1601, sometimes, it is not the reason that is written on paper that matters but getting to the end goal, divorce or in your case, annulment. So don't look too much into the reasons etc but more importantly, look forward and move on. Time to close the chapter where it matters.
 
Hi all,

I need to apply for an annulment. Could anyone with experience let me know the procedures that one had gone through, the court questions and if possible, may I know how long in total was the process and how much was it if it is uncontested? If possible, it would be great if I could have your lawyer's contact as I do not know of any lawyer who was successful with the annulment process. I seek your help in any possible way. Thank you for your time and help.
 
Hi all,

Finally got my certificate of final judgement, Its a piece of paper (not original cert) however the solicitor had certified true copy, it stated that the plaintiff is free from all bond of marriage with defendant (which is me).

One thing to keep in mind when I called the ROM. The ROM will not have a record of us voiding the marriage, neither will the record in ROM stated that we have annul or divorce. The stupid system will only reflect how many time we married and from when to when, who to who. And this stupid system would have record saying that I am always "married" to my asshole ex in their record. If any checks is require thru ROM system. We are still freaking "married". Is it possible for the ROM to have a status on record that reflect "VOID"? I am not sure. I hope someone can enlighten me here.

Since in the eye of law, we are suppose to be single and marriage is VOID. Isnt it reasonable for ROM to remove the marriage record or indicate "VOID" status in the record?
 
I think that it is good that ROM not remove the marriage record...coz some of the people out there are very much against people who annulled their marriage...Actually to me annulment is worse than divorce...Coz divorce at least shows both parties put in efforts but things dun work out....Annulment shows clearly people who make rash decision easily and just call it quits without trying.....

And what's the point in putting void on the record when u can easily show the certificate of final judgement to your potential spouse to prove annulment...
 
meimei1601 said:
Hi all,

Finally got my certificate of final judgement, Its a piece of paper (not original cert) however the solicitor had certified true copy, it stated that the plaintiff is free from all bond of marriage with defendant (which is me).

One thing to keep in mind when I called the ROM. The ROM will not have a record of us voiding the marriage, neither will the record in ROM stated that we have annul or divorce. The stupid system will only reflect how many time we married and from when to when, who to who. And this stupid system would have record saying that I am always "married" to my asshole ex in their record. If any checks is require thru ROM system. We are still freaking "married". Is it possible for the ROM to have a status on record that reflect "VOID"? I am not sure. I hope someone can enlighten me here.

Since in the eye of law, we are suppose to be single and marriage is VOID. Isnt it reasonable for ROM to remove the marriage record or indicate "VOID" status in the record?
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Unfortunately not unless we change to a government who understands the meaning of divorce and annulment. Don't get me wrong. I am all for removing of my name from ROM system. I do not want to be considered as married since I am divorced. I hate to state my status as "divorce" in documents, I would rather put myself as single since the marriage is history. I really don't understand why no systems in the world remove the word "divorce" from marital status. I understand when there is a need to pay alimony but I am not required to pay any alimony. In this case, I am free from all obligations. Why then should my marital status be "divorce"? Can someone explain?
 
I think must have the marital status "Divorcee" bah....some girls are very much against being with someone who is divorce mah .... especially people who are divorce dun have a tendency to remarry if they went through a bad experience .....Especially those that pay out tons of alimony woh.....So why u worry so much about being a divorcee unless u are in a hurry to remarry???
 
uglydude said:
I think must have the marital status "Divorcee" bah....some girls are very much against being with someone who is divorce mah .... especially people who are divorce dun have a tendency to remarry if they went through a bad experience .....Especially those that pay out tons of alimony woh.....So why u worry so much about being a divorcee unless u are in a hurry to remarry???
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If a person don't have intention to remarry, why should the word "divorce" be any different from "single" unless you are saying single must married? You tell people you are divorcee, people would think you must have done something bad. Either you go cheat outside or you do something bad to your spouse. No people would think that it could be the other way.
 
People might this way initially...but if the person takes time to know u....she will eventually knows that you are the good guy mah and ur ex wifey is at fault la.....wat's the point of being with someone who pre judge u and dun even bother to take time to know u...
 
Whether its a divorce or annulment, both have their reason when a marriage dun work, when a reason is not a reason but excuse, that is where the individual need to figure what he wants. I totally agree with verysadguy. Since marriage is a history, than such should not be place as still married in record. ROM can have their record, but all mean to make ppl pay for a full details or make the person hand over final judgement or divorce paper on the day of re-married.

Well.. when we find someone new, and intend to get along, we have to be honest about our past, But what is past might not be a reason for not having a future with the person. Well, some mind their future spouse married before, some dont, it depend on individual. We can say that a person who hit 40 and still not married must be something wrong, we can also say that this person was a divorcee and something is wrong... its never ending.

But since marriage is a history, record should be updated. Since annulment is a void marriage (under eye of law) and void means no more.. it should be erase off the record, since we are given single status, Divorce is different as its involved more things than annulment can be done. Therefore, status as divorce or date of married end should reflect, It should be all transparent.

For me, who had annulment (filed by my ex hubby with excuses), in the eye of law I am single, becos of his childish act. Is it fair for me to be shown only as when I am married and to him? Its not. I find this so called "law" unfair, and which law? which code? which section? not indicate.
 
I personally think that annulment should never be void....The fact that an annulment occurs must be made known...coz I got a lot of friends who view annulment much worse than divorce...and the truth is people who annulled their marriage are worse than those who divorced...annulment clearly showed people who bailed out with the slightest problem or those who acted on impulse...at least divorced personnel tried their best in the marriage and the marriage dun work out.....

I know of a lot of friends who would rather marry someone who is a divorcee than someone who annulled their marriage....so hope the law will never change and make sure annulment is shown clearly on ROM record.....
 
Little wonder.
U dun need a good lawyer to do annulment, u just need money and accept those bullshit reasons. Yeos associate is good enuf to do all those paper work. Unless u are claiming something from the other party. I rather u make a divorce instead if money and kids are involve.

Anyway.. when annulment is finalise or be it a divorce in the record under ROM U 2 will still b married since when therefore the final judgement paper is impt. Cos they are register of marriage and they register marriage. Won't delete marriage record. And if u get married again in future, the paper is necessary to be provided.

Personally I had my marriage being annulled by my ex asshole who give reason like happy married and no happy divorce. Now if u ask me to chose again. I would chose to get a divorce than annulment. Of cos the latter is cheaper and faster.
 
Annulment can be made if it's fulfilling all the reasons for annulment. It can be a marriage of 2 yrs as long as u can proof that 2 of u are not staying together
 
meimei1601 said:
Little wonder.
U dun need a good lawyer to do annulment, u just need money and accept those bullshit reasons. Yeos associate is good enuf to do all those paper work. Unless u are claiming something from the other party. I rather u make a divorce instead if money and kids are involve.

Anyway.. when annulment is finalise or be it a divorce in the record under ROM U 2 will still b married since when therefore the final judgement paper is impt. Cos they are register of marriage and they register marriage. Won't delete marriage record. And if u get married again in future, the paper is necessary to be provided.

Personally I had my marriage being annulled by my ex asshole who give reason like happy married and no happy divorce. Now if u ask me to chose again. I would chose to get a divorce than annulment. Of cos the latter is cheaper and faster.[
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Dear all,

My husband and I ROM in Aug'14. We have our flat renovated and everything done up. However, as I was always oversea due to work, and some other issues, he initiated to go for annulment and using the reason of me refuse to consummate.

He wants to end thing nicely and remain friends after that. I had a hard time begging and crying for the week. Moved back to the new home and he is all gone. Every memories of us being together haunt me like no tomorrow.

He told me to go and sign the paper on the coming week. And mentioned that if we are fated, we would be back together.

I have the following questions :
1) Must I sign on the paper for the annulment?
2) With my signature, does it expedite the process?
3) Can it be cancelled should we get back together before the judgement is out? (This is the most important question)
4) When do we need to inform HDB?

He said he has given up on me. In a way, it was my fault for neglecting him due to work, but I really wanted to do well this year in career and business aspect so that I can start family planning next year. I have some gynae issue which explained why I didn't want to consummate these 2 yrs, however we have done it before we married.

As he is a man with his words, I take it seriously that he would consider getting back together should I be able to change and proved to him that my feeling is real for him.

We were together back in teenage years for about years, broke up and got back together for 9 years. He made up most of my life and I am his first and second gf.. only gf. I really want to work this out. But he insists on signing the paper. He confirmed that there is no 3rd party involved.

Please advise. I am really lost since he initiated. And I have finally manage to pull myself up to ask on forum now.
 
Sad Cony said:
Dear all,

My husband and I ROM in Aug'14. We have our flat renovated and everything done up. However, as I was always oversea due to work, and some other issues, he initiated to go for annulment and using the reason of me refuse to consummate.

He wants to end thing nicely and remain friends after that. I had a hard time begging and crying for the week. Moved back to the new home and he is all gone. Every memories of us being together haunt me like no tomorrow.

He told me to go and sign the paper on the coming week. And mentioned that if we are fated, we would be back together.

I have the following questions :
1) Must I sign on the paper for the annulment?
2) With my signature, does it expedite the process?
3) Can it be cancelled should we get back together before the judgement is out? (This is the most important question)
4) When do we need to inform HDB?

He said he has given up on me. In a way, it was my fault for neglecting him due to work, but I really wanted to do well this year in career and business aspect so that I can start family planning next year. I have some gynae issue which explained why I didn't want to consummate these 2 yrs, however we have done it before we married.

As he is a man with his words, I take it seriously that he would consider getting back together should I be able to change and proved to him that my feeling is real for him.

We were together back in teenage years for about years, broke up and got back together for 9 years. He made up most of my life and I am his first and second gf.. only gf. I really want to work this out. But he insists on signing the paper. He confirmed that there is no 3rd party involved.

Please advise. I am really lost since he initiated. And I have finally manage to pull myself up to ask on forum now.
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Were you staying together during the marriage? You have to realise that a man has his limits. If you don't live with him nor consummate the marriage, he may just leave you when he gives up waiting. You have a marriage certificate. Your marriage vows and obligations stated in the Women's Charter are clear: Put the marriage first. Cooperate with husband to safeguard the interests of the marriage. That includes intimacy as well.

What are your priorities? If you want your career at the expense of marriage, just sign the annulment and move on. You can't keep a man around and not fulfil your wifely duties. It is grossly unfair to him, and very selfish. Can't expect miracles to happen when a couple lives apart most of the time. Perhaps the time apart will give both of you time to think about your priorities in life.

1) If you don't agree, he can still file for separation, which will come into effect as divorce 3 years later with your approval, 4 years without your approval. Heard of a case where a woman asked her ex to separate instead of divorce so she could keep the flat to herself while dating a new guy.
2) Not sure.
3) I think you can go for counselling first before you decide what to do. Perhaps the love is still there, but he may think you put him in last place. Can't expect a marriage to work if both parties do not put each others in first place.
4) HDB will act based on court order, which comes after the Final Judgement. You can settle amicably and appeal to HDB to sell on open market if MOP is not met. Otherwise, it may have to be surrendered to HDB and you get only money based on current valuation.

In summary, go for marriage counselling and try to repair this marriage. Stay open minded to suggestions and feedback, and make a sincere attempt to save your marriage.
 
life_is said:
Were you staying together during the marriage? You have to realise that a man has his limits. If you don't live with him nor consummate the marriage, he may just leave you when he gives up waiting. You have a marriage certificate. Your marriage vows and obligations stated in the Women's Charter are clear: Put the marriage first. Cooperate with husband to safeguard the interests of the marriage. That includes intimacy as well.

What are your priorities? If you want your career at the expense of marriage, just sign the annulment and move on. You can't keep a man around and not fulfil your wifely duties. It is grossly unfair to him, and very selfish. Can't expect miracles to happen when a couple lives apart most of the time. Perhaps the time apart will give both of you time to think about your priorities in life.

1) If you don't agree, he can still file for separation, which will come into effect as divorce 3 years later with your approval, 4 years without your approval. Heard of a case where a woman asked her ex to separate instead of divorce so she could keep the flat to herself while dating a new guy.
2) Not sure.
3) I think you can go for counselling first before you decide what to do. Perhaps the love is still there, but he may think you put him in last place. Can't expect a marriage to work if both parties do not put each others in first place.
4) HDB will act based on court order, which comes after the Final Judgement. You can settle amicably and appeal to HDB to sell on open market if MOP is not met. Otherwise, it may have to be surrendered to HDB and you get only money based on current valuation.

In summary, go for marriage counselling and try to repair this marriage. Stay open minded to suggestions and feedback, and make a sincere attempt to save your marriage.
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He refused to go for marriage councelling with me. And in order for us to go out again, I have to agree to sign the paper this week. He said will remain as friends and can go for lunch or dinner. I am considering asking him as much as I can. I even asked how often can I ask him out and he just reply saying that I am asking and requesting too much.

My job nature needed to fly, but since this happened, told my boss to ground me with immediate effect. I really wana salvage it but unsure what to do.
 
Why he refuse counselling? I know how useless counselling can be for some people but take a shot anyway. At least try, right? Even if you want divorce also got to go counselling. Now the question is, did you consummate the marriage at all? If so, you cannot annul it. If not consummated, perhaps consider some legal advice from an experienced lawyer as I doubt there are many who know how to do this. Go nearest family service centre to ask for help with counselling while seeking legal advice.
 
Corny, is this really the trigger point because you travel alot and cant consummate with him or other reasons?
Question is why you have to wait till this stage then thinking of salvaging it ?
From my prospective as a guy, divorce means to give up alot of things. House, money, efforts of dating and pride, perhap many more. If you are willing to change, I dun see why your hubby cant accept you.
Traveling alot/ away from him, and not intimate with him.. make a guy very uncomfortable. He will have trust issue with you.. mabe he thinks you did something behind his back or dun love him anymore.
You have to get the root.. is it trust/ love or needs issues...
 
Infernolord said:
Corny, is this really the trigger point because you travel alot and cant consummate with him or other reasons?
Question is why you have to wait till this stage then thinking of salvaging it ?
From my prospective as a guy, divorce means to give up alot of things. House, money, efforts of dating and pride, perhap many more. If you are willing to change, I dun see why your hubby cant accept you.
Traveling alot/ away from him, and not intimate with him.. make a guy very uncomfortable. He will have trust issue with you.. mabe he thinks you did something behind his back or dun love him anymore.
You have to get the root.. is it trust/ love or needs issues...
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I have told my boss and him that I will stop traveling for work. He felt that something is amiss but there isn't. He doesn't even want to have a face to face talk.

I lost sleep and appetite n have been not working. I went to hospital as I was so sick, headache, shortness of breath.. Etc. and today just went to get a referral to neurology as possibly of growth. Perhaps this is karma of not giving him enough attention and time.

I really wana salvage it.
 
Sad Cony said:
I have told my boss and him that I will stop traveling for work. He felt that something is amiss but there isn't. He doesn't even want to have a face to face talk.

I lost sleep and appetite n have been not working. I went to hospital as I was so sick, headache, shortness of breath.. Etc. and today just went to get a referral to neurology as possibly of growth. Perhaps this is karma of not giving him enough attention and time.

I really wana salvage it.
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You have to realise that it is not healthy to let the husband be all alone in a marriage. When one party refuses to talk things through, it's the end.
 
life_is said:
Why he refuse counselling? I know how useless counselling can be for some people but take a shot anyway. At least try, right? Even if you want divorce also got to go counselling. Now the question is, did you consummate the marriage at all? If so, you cannot annul it. If not consummated, perhaps consider some legal advice from an experienced lawyer as I doubt there are many who know how to do this. Go nearest family service centre to ask for help with counselling while seeking legal advice.
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I have consulted family service centre and was told to bring my husband along for counseling.
To him and my in-law, they felt that counseling is for people with issues (example mental issues).

Actually he did bring it up on the only face-to-face talk we had last week which ended briefly as I was too emotional. When I tried to bring up the subject again, he refused.

I have went to legal clinic this morning to get some of my questions answered. And now trying to fix up appointment with a lawyer.
 
Sad Cony said:
I have consulted family service centre and was told to bring my husband along for counseling.
To him and my in-law, they felt that counseling is for people with issues (example mental issues).

Actually he did bring it up on the only face-to-face talk we had last week which ended briefly as I was too emotional. When I tried to bring up the subject again, he refused.

I have went to legal clinic this morning to get some of my questions answered. And now trying to fix up appointment with a lawyer.
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Counselling will be a requirement for divorce. It's for couples that have issues being together.

Don't allow in laws to interfere. Just between two of you. Be firm and insist that they do not cross the boundary.

Did you really have no intercourse throughout the marriage? The last date of that will be used as a guide for the period of separation.

Cheap legal advice may be disastrous. Tell him to meet and talk things through. From now on make sure everything is on record in case you get framed for things you did not do.
 
I just got my marriage annul, I can recommend my lawyer, may not be the cheapest, but take pride in his work and he's able to advice you on your next step. PM me if you want his contact.
 
Hi anyone tried circular law chambers? I saw theiR contact no a hand phone no online and I texted. The party I suppose is the lawyer replied me and asked me to email over the documents and pay $1500 nett . I am married for 3mths and I wants to annul this marriage.

Anyone can advise if it's a scam? Cause I am quite skeptical to transfer money at one go and he said I can don't need to go down just do eve online.. and go down to sign the necessary documents can already...

I have made another appt with another law firm and it cost $3000 for the annulment .. I am trying to cut down my budget cause I will be bearing the legal fees as well.. I have just beared the full cost of my wedding and have outstanding bills to pay.. for my wedding..

Anyone will be able to help or advise. Thank you!
 
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