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What I meant is that, if people ask the govt about the policy for eg.. they just give standard reply. They don't have to think of ways to explain and at least appear to be accountable.

No tommy koh is not higher power. He got no power cos he is just an ambassador. But he got power through his reputation and his pen. So those morons will sit up and listen.
 


No, not tat u dun hv a right to question how the govt spends the monie. But coz the govt has too many "shareholders" who have a say, the restriction is there to think out of the box.

Eh, juz coz it's not left, doesn't mean it's rite lah. :P
 
Govt has no shareholder .. where are they. we citizens only vote once every 5 years and as we know we always return them to power. what shareholder?

It is the civil servant that implement and shape the policies. And they have to have policies that make sense and if it doesnt they must have the flexibility to change.

Give me an example that the shareholder hampers their ability to think out of the box.
 
Actually once the govt decides on something they will do it. All the feedback just for show only. Just look at the casino thingy. Debate, debate. talk talk.. in the end we still got 2 casino.
 
Powder, I can see the underlying meaning of ur post hor. Argh! It happens. When govt screws up, siao liao. Kenna shit on all govt buildings. Izit a wonder why we are all scaredy cats?
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Simpleman, tat one I'm against too. Standard replies. I try not to do it but ya.. my boss.. 1 of the recipients of the salary revisions.. absolutely loves standardising everything.
 
simpleman, when i serve my country... if i ever, it'll be honour that drives me... the honour of serving sporeans... although i dun expect everyone to think like me, i would think to be able to serve at that level... financially u'll not be shortchanged... i just didn't expect tat i get to be a millionaire many times over too... but tat's just me lor...
 
powder, we have to be realistic. In sg we talk about money only. Not like in the states. They can pay you real peanuts to be president (just a couple of hundreds K a year). Ok the perks are great. But after you retire, you got pension and you got the power to give power lunches and talks that will give you money. and the book you write also can bring you millions.

In SG. If you retire as president/minister and you got no money - die liao..
 
K lor, then the casino. S'pore has always been against inviting the ills of gambling into our own backyard for years. Nobody dares to step into this territory. But we can't deny the economic spin-offs from it. When we finally do allow, kenna lambasted left, rite & centre. U are against the opening of the casino here, there may be others who actually welcome it. Who do we listen to then?
 
my biggest gripes more to do with motoring... hehe. some things are so basic, u get policy-makers sitting there so many years still never change... the only means of change is to penalise pple in their pockets... erm, this is like... the most basic of Alll changes to implement... they did it when china was having dynasties...

creativity Zero.
 
Heheh. So it's good mah. Salary revisions mean u dun hv to do the Shincorp thing or worry abt ur life when ur career is over.
Hmm... our ministers got cute sons a not?
 
Powder, hands up in surrender. Tis one I agree totally. :P Well, there are some agencies & ministries tat are caught in china dynasties & moving painfully painfully slow.

Or u cld view it as S'poreans cheapskate. Muz hurt them where it hurts most. The wallet. heehee..
 
laundry, I am not against casino. Actually my opinion is not important. It is the process. The govt decides that the casino is good for us economically so they WILL NOT take into account any other factors. This is the process I am talking about.
 
Simpleman, can u explain? Dun really understand wat do u mean by process. Wat kind of other factors to take into account? Economic advantage - no argument. Social ills - public education, local levy for entry (this is really lame IMO but...).
 
simpleman is right... it's the process.

laundry, u cannot keep penalising pple on the CTE becos of some bottleneck issues that are unaddressed. this just one of them... throw u few more...

how come my car value is lower yearly but the insurance is higher? how come my car insurance higher becos of the brand? how come a two-door hatchback is considered as a coupe? IF my car is fully paid for and the only insurance is required to cover 3rd parties, why do i still need to cover my own car's value when the value is fully paid for? like when i fully pay for a 40k watch, do i need to insure it when if lost means lost? how come need transfer fees of thousands when the administrative doesn't cost tat much? how come roadworks must do on weekends and cause jams that eat up our precious weekend time?

i haven't moved on to draconic hdb rule yet... but basically alot of stuff there nong nong liao... u dun need alot of brains to address them. more time is spent defending why there's no change... to actually thinking up changes.
 
2 men bully 1 frail, fragile lady. *kao peh* Siao, lemme ur dumbbells! I going to throw at them!

Powder, I can't answer on motoring. I barely know the PARF from the ARF from the BARK.

As for HDB, erm. It's ur fault if someone traces me & I get fired for it. HDB is notorious for being deadwood paradise. U be glad they've progressed to building HDB flats instead of kampongs still. :P

Eh, I'm not all pro-govt u know? E.g. why muz we separate for 3 years b4 divorce? Such a blardy long time leh!
 
The factors as you mentioned - social ills and the associated vices that come with it. I mean they say public education.. who are we kidding that public education can help?

I doubt very much they really explore the social ills and the impact. They just think setup another govt agency can do liao.

And secondly the economic benefits. I don't really know - but now with 2 casinos - I don't really know if they have done their sums correctly.

Of course the local levy is the worst one can think of. I believe they have to do some smart packaging such that it becomes almost free for locals - otherwise crazy. I might as well throw the $100 to buy 4d.

We shall wait and see. You are in the gaming industry. Any reason why the govt spools or turf club don't have online betting? There is actually a very huge market out there and we are so slow and so uncreative. Our Score odds are the joke of the town. Seriously they need to employ people like me to improve on their betting portfolios for soccer... so staid and unimaginative.. and can't bet online.. shucks.
 
powder, u vote for me to be minister for transport.. i can guarantee that I can answer all your questions and give you solutions.
 
Actually I worked for stat board for 3 years. In my time I can see the vision of the internet. That time only we (NUS) has a link to the states. And my boss only want to allow researcher to use. I told him my vision of the computer as a medium for communication (just like what internet is today) - he asked me to shut-up and said computer is for processing and for research - not for communication.

It was 1986/1987. I quit cos I can't tahan so myopic pple. See who is right today.
 
Oh, public education helps. But it's a painfully slow process. We're talking about changing people's perceptions here leh.

Online betting, I believe is akan datang. Only moved into phone betting recently leh. Simpleman, u belong to the more educated profile of S'poreans. Most punters at the turf club, let's juz say, I can't imagine them using a comp. Even e-govt services are not exactly exploding in usage.
 
Chao ah siao. U lucky I dunno ur car plate no. Else I go draw picture on ur bonnet ah! Hurt u where it hurts most. Hell hath no fury like a civil servant scorned.
 
laundry, you know how much sg pools collected for soccer bets.. how much how much on the internet. the ratio is at least 1 to 10. All the big punters are on the internet. They provide better odds and much more creative betting portfolio.

I don't bet on sg pools as well only when i mood then i buy. When i am in serious betting mood, I go online.

You know those ah bengs - they don't how to use computer to send email or browse forum... but trust me they know how to bet online.
 
I believe e-govt services not many pple want to use. But internet betting - to buy 4d or toto or soccer betting.. i tell you have a lot of potential.

We are just too slow. If I am overseas, how to I buy 4d? Now i can't buy must ask pple to buy for me - how stupid can that be?
 
Erm. U do know Sg Pools is a pte ltd? Veering out of govt talk liao. I'm not familiar but I guess (guess hor!) tat the odds are low to guarantee higher returns since it supposedly caters to a bigger population?

Think I nonid to go home liao. If I carry on talking here. Heheh.
 
i was almost court-martialed and thrown to DB in the army if not for the intervention of someone i am indebted to... being the only NSF-officer in that particular unit... i was made to write countless reports and restructure the unit, of cos my name eventually removed form the hard work. then given 6-7 appointments, only to realise that i had to account for histroical losses and screw-ups... the same reason that i was supposed to be liable for. the pple who vacated the posts screwed up, not me. but regulars had to protect their job... thus i got the appointments. i did more duty than the regulars, did alot of things more than most. the direct superior and HR actually played these games with me and tried to make me scapegoat. they were trying to Destroy My Future at 22 to protect Theirs. anyway any car that was more expensive than the HR could not park in the compound. had to park outside and walk in.

the thing that saved me was even more shocking... the person who helped me avoid all those charges... threatened to spill the beans on the abuse of power... my direct superior rented out some colonial houses for his own pocket... anyway that's my story. i climbed mountains, ran thousands of kilometres, ate worms, carried my comrades and wanted to make it my life... dis-illusion is the most appropriate term. i have more stories of conspiracies where power and rank was abused but let's leave that to history.

there's good endings and there's bad... i never believed in it again. i dun ever believe in systems where academics got u starting higher up in platforms, and not recognised calibre... recognised calibre is not thru academics, but thru character & integrity.

tat's my story... sori abit vague, dun wanna be too specific nor dig up old stuff.
 
hi all,office cannot access sgbrides, so can onli post at nite.sorry for the long msg tat i posted up yest nite and thks for the idea that i shld perhaps start a new thread.

ya..realise my nick is quite similar to ggal.ha.

hmmn..after looking at the post i wrote..i myself oso alittle bit blur..hehe.cos at the pt of time, i dun care/bother how my sentence structure is.watever cum to my mind, i just write n write. sorry to those who read it and can't grasp wat on earth m i writing.paiseh ah.
 
ah siao, you still in office ah?? Me damn sianz.. suppose to meet my frens for dinner then they all fly aeroplane.. :P Hate it when I gotta give up going to gym then this happens!!
 
yap..indeed..me still in office..tmr morning stilll coming back to work....me only can train during sat n sun...this wk all burn
 
wah... work on PH... that's why I say la... maybe I earn more $/hr than some of you guys :P Heh.. but your line is like that one.. my colleague's hb is also doing same thing and he works on Sat/Sun quite often.
 
ya, no choice..woek as acctn always got deadline esp during mth end n qtr closing..previous co like tat, this co also like tat.diff is this co pay me much much higher....
 
EVO??..i wont buy tat lar...its not worth to slave for a car....

well congrats..now u r poorer by a new car..LOL

btw, just printed out 258 pages of GL details to review!!!..my eyes going to pop out soon..
 
Thot u paid much much more mah.. Evo shld be easily w/in reach right? ;) Besides u got no wife to suck ur money. Ya now I'm $1.7K poorer every mth. :P Well... money can earn back la, so dun worry too much.

What's GL?? Sounds boring :P
 
laundry,

Singapore Pools is not privately owned. It is owned by Singapore Totalisator Board - a stat board under the Ministry of Finance.

You can find the info in the Singapore Pools website.
 
ya, GL is general ledger..

wont say EVO is within reach lar..just gotta slave hard for it...though no wife, but i still got parents to feed leh..n also must save for rainy days..
 
haha..simpleman, I wld think that Laundry knows all that info... hehehe..

ah siao, happy reading... Btw, found this interesting site for drivers www.petrolwatch.com.sg. Can check the latest petrol prices and credit card promos for discounts
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not going to read through 258 pages tonight..read liao wait drive back sure..choy!!!!...

hiya, i only pump one brand nia..n i got extra 5% discount too..
 

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