separation - divorce questions

[wtyw]

Hi all,

I've got a few issues I would like to seek help in. I am intending to divorce eventually but husband refuses so I would need to separate first. We have a kid and he has made it sure he would not care about her should we separate/divorce. This has already happened a few times where he would just disappear and heck care our kid whenever I bring up the topic of the above. He has also mentioned that he would not want anything to do with her should he not have me. I am afraid because during this separation period he is going to make things as difficult as possible for me. I m even willing to rent a unit in our apartment block so that I can still look after my kid and make sure she can have easy access to both of us. My question would be that should he not fulfill his fatherly duties eg more in terms of paying his half of her school fees etc, could I enforce him to contribute his share? I will be paying for the rental apartment out of my own pocket hence it would be tight on me. And if he doesn't, could I use this as a factor to divorce instead of waiting 4 years? Please advise

 

[verysadguy]

You can only force him to contribute his share after the divorce. It is called child maintenance. There are only four factors that can lead to divorce. Outside any one of these is not possible.

http://www.divorcelawyerinsingapore.net/what-are-the-grounds-for-divorce-in-singapore

There is only one ground for divorce in Singapore and that is: the marriage has irretrievably broken down. To demonstrate this you must prove one of the following:

• The defendant committed adultery. This usually requires a report from a private investigator. If you continue to live with your spouse for six months after you discover the adultery you cannot file on grounds of adultery unless it is ongoing.

• Unacceptable behavior. This can include gambling, physical or verbal abuse, or anything that makes it intolerable for you to remain in the marriage.

• Separation of three years if both parties agree to the divorce.

• Separation of four years even if only one party seeks the divorce.

• Desertion of over two years. You may be able to file for a divorce if your spouse has left the country and you cannot locate them.

 

[life_is]

Hi all,

I've got a few issues I would like to seek help in. I am intending to divorce eventually but husband refuses so I would need to separate first. We have a kid and he has made it sure he would not care about her should we separate/divorce. This has already happened a few times where he would just disappear and heck care our kid whenever I bring up the topic of the above. He has also mentioned that he would not want anything to do with her should he not have me. I am afraid because during this separation period he is going to make things as difficult as possible for me. I m even willing to rent a unit in our apartment block so that I can still look after my kid and make sure she can have easy access to both of us. My question would be that should he not fulfill his fatherly duties eg more in terms of paying his half of her school fees etc, could I enforce him to contribute his share? I will be paying for the rental apartment out of my own pocket hence it would be tight on me. And if he doesn't, could I use this as a factor to divorce instead of waiting 4 years? Please advise

Why do you want a divorce? You have a new lover?

 

[wtyw]

I had someone but decided not to go ahead as I want this separation to be my decision and not be influenced by another party. My husband is very crazy and he doesn't let me do things without informing him which is ridiculous. Can you believe he does not let me go on holiday trips with my girlfriends? He will insist on following me which is ridiculous. Recently, I was at work but I went for dinner with a GIRL friend and she posted a photo of us on facebook. He went mad and started spamming her, asking her not to spoil our marriage, called my mom and told my mom I was lying to him, got 3 of his friends to keep calling me and asking me where was I etc. He is very manipulative as when we are talking on whatsapp at that time, he was normal and did not show me any attitude, even my girlfriends are shocked at his behaviour. Also whenever we quarrel and I bring up the separation issue, he will just leave the house and inform me to say good bye to his parents, his siblings, our daughter etc. He will also whatsapp me that he is on the bridge going to end his life. It is really draining. The last straw came when he was in the kitchen one whole afternoon holding a kitchen knife and slightly cut himself, saying that he wants to kill himself. Also, that day he banged his head continuously against the wall and window. It is very very scary. He also purposely takes more pills than necessary and when I question him, he says he is stressed out etc. It is difficult guys, everytime I bring up separation, he will not allow me to and keeps going on about how hard he has worked for the family, he will never let me go, why do I want to destroy the family. I am at my wit's end, I have told him no matter what he does, I will not reconsider my decision but the scary thing is that he is so manipulative, he tells me he will quit his job and gamble away everything. He also has gout and he keeps saying he will drink himself till he can't walk, he has high blood pressure but he blames it on me because I stress him over the relationship, seems like everything is my fault!

 

[life_is]

I had someone but decided not to go ahead as I want this separation to be my decision and not be influenced by another party. My husband is very crazy and he doesn't let me do things without informing him which is ridiculous. Can you believe he does not let me go on holiday trips with my girlfriends? He will insist on following me which is ridiculous. Recently, I was at work but I went for dinner with a GIRL friend and she posted a photo of us on facebook. He went mad and started spamming her, asking her not to spoil our marriage, called my mom and told my mom I was lying to him, got 3 of his friends to keep calling me and asking me where was I etc. He is very manipulative as when we are talking on whatsapp at that time, he was normal and did not show me any attitude, even my girlfriends are shocked at his behaviour. Also whenever we quarrel and I bring up the separation issue, he will just leave the house and inform me to say good bye to his parents, his siblings, our daughter etc. He will also whatsapp me that he is on the bridge going to end his life. It is really draining. The last straw came when he was in the kitchen one whole afternoon holding a kitchen knife and slightly cut himself, saying that he wants to kill himself. Also, that day he banged his head continuously against the wall and window. It is very very scary. He also purposely takes more pills than necessary and when I question him, he says he is stressed out etc. It is difficult guys, everytime I bring up separation, he will not allow me to and keeps going on about how hard he has worked for the family, he will never let me go, why do I want to destroy the family. I am at my wit's end, I have told him no matter what he does, I will not reconsider my decision but the scary thing is that he is so manipulative, he tells me he will quit his job and gamble away everything. He also has gout and he keeps saying he will drink himself till he can't walk, he has high blood pressure but he blames it on me because I stress him over the relationship, seems like everything is my fault!

Maybe you lost his trust.

I've met real manipulative people who were out to sow discord. This went on from the moment I signed on the marriage cert for many years and is still going on. These are the people you should be afraid of. They make a nice front and stab you behind closed doors so no one will believe you. And they will stop at nothing to cause pain. That is real manipulative. Went through a lot of pain in terms of separation from loved ones and didn't even get to see my child much because of these people. I really hope all the people who are near her family get punished for supporting her behaviour.

At least your husband is direct but please try to show some concern for him instead. Go for counselling to find out what each party is not doing right, even though it doesn't work on some people like my ex and her parents. You can insist on divorce but chances are you will regret unless he is really so bad that he doesn't take care of the family. Maybe you complained so much that he keeps thinking nothing he does is ever enough for you. Think carefully before filing. If he is a good man, chances are that you will regret a divorce.

 

[buddhabar]

Under the new maritial law, if he gets himself into a fix where he can no longer take care of himself... like being mental with suicidal tendency , handicap due to gout.... you may have to pay him alimony! Given that, would you still insist on a divorce? Just wondering how far will you go for a divorce

 

[gladjo]

If he can "proof" he's unable to work .. court may award him maintence by you ... so b4 he play that card, you do it first then u hv the upper hand

 

[life_is]

If he can "proof" he's unable to work .. court may award him maintence by you ... so b4 he play that card, you do it first then u hv the upper hand

That is not the a good idea.

Just negotiate an amicable divorce so there won't be so much fighting in future.

If he cannot work, and you cannot give much maintenance based on your income, he suffers more than you do. Kind of silly to do that.

 

[gladjo]

It depends on her full case of divorce n dept of complication ...no divorce case is so simple ...i done my own divorce ..meaning i self represented ...have u?

 

[smallstar]

based on the story u can request divorce based on

• Unacceptable behavior. This can include gambling, physical or verbal abuse, or anything that makes it intolerable for you to remain in the marriage.

but this is going to be quite lengthy process as ur husband is not agreeable.
coz u have to proof that he is being "unreasonable"

 

[gladjo]

Not necessary ..court will let you divorce so long as both agrees Unreasonable Behaviour so as to push the case to settle Ancillaries ...yep no reason court disallow when its btw both of u ...PM me should u need further assistance ..heresay will always u so confuse. Yes..i self represented n know all abt it . Just a caution for the benefit of all, be always the Defendant not Plaintiff.

 

[soxc]

how much does it costs to engage a divorce lawyer? there's one that quoted 4k.

 

[gladjo]

Soxc ...4k is for Uncontested Divorce ...agreed to all his conditions n its 3-5k legal fees settle in 1-2 mths

 

[meiji5]

how much does it costs to engage a divorce lawyer? there's one that quoted 4k.

How come your quote is so expensive? I thought mine was expensive and they charged me $2.5k for an uncontested divorce. My first court hearing took place on 25 October. Final court hearing will be on/around 26 January 2017. Not too long to go.

 

[soxc]

How come your quote is so expensive? I thought mine was expensive and they charged me $2.5k for an uncontested divorce. My first court hearing took place on 25 October. Final court hearing will be on/around 26 January 2017. Not too long to go.

HOH quoted that amount.. the admin fee and such totalled to be 4k.

 

[gladjo]

Meji5

That is "your firsr court" hearing only ...dun assume yr divorce stop there unless you had received final court order

 

[meiji5]

Meji5

That is "your firsr court" hearing only ...dun assume yr divorce stop there unless you had received final court order

gladjo, I don't catch on to what you're saying.

soxc, the amount I'm paying is inclusive of all fees (no hidden costs, etc) cos I read up on this first before I engaged any lawyers and asked my lawyer if there were any other fees etc.
It is for uncontested which both sides have agreed to and proceeded with.

 

[gladjo]

Meiji5

When a divorce is complete, court will issue an order call Interim Order ..and 2 wk later the real divoce order call Final Judgement.

Your case is simple Uncontested cos you probably agree to everything.

So until you received the Final Judgement..which mean you are offically n legal divorce. Then if your fees stay at 2.5k, ok ..good for u but if the lawyer charger yr phone calls n emails...then yr fees goes up ...

Unless you hv no kids n house..Uncontested is the way to go. But if you hv kids..and house...then you just made a silly mistake.

Allow me to share ...one mummy i help..Uncontested n with a small kid n house ...she move out with kid n gave hubby house.. living with her mum .. 1 yr later, she realised why she's bearing the expense all by herself plus no home and her salary is hand to mouth so she wanted Maintenance now. U think she can get it ... she'll get thrown out by court.

Ladies, once your divorce is closed..it is very absoultely difficult n costly to reopen vai Vary Order. It will be done deal.

 

[meiji5]

Meiji5

When a divorce is complete, court will issue an order call Interim Order ..and 2 wk later the real divoce order call Final Judgement.

Your case is simple Uncontested cos you probably agree to everything.

So until you received the Final Judgement..which mean you are offically n legal divorce. Then if your fees stay at 2.5k, ok ..good for u but if the lawyer charger yr phone calls n emails...then yr fees goes up ...

Unless you hv no kids n house..Uncontested is the way to go. But if you hv kids..and house...then you just made a silly mistake.

Allow me to share ...one mummy i help..Uncontested n with a small kid n house ...she move out with kid n gave hubby house.. living with her mum .. 1 yr later, she realised why she's bearing the expense all by herself plus no home and her salary is hand to mouth so she wanted Maintenance now. U think she can get it ... she'll get thrown out by court.

Ladies, once your divorce is closed..it is very absoultely difficult n costly to reopen vai Vary Order. It will be done deal.

Appreciate the information, gladjo.

I'm not gonna explain myself on what I have done with my divorce proceedings because you have assumed my situation without knowing the facts.

Bottom line is, everything is settled and I have agreed to uncontested for my benefit. He is actually in the losing end.

As for my fees, I have it in b&w the amount that I have to pay for my case. There are no hidden costs as I mentioned earlier.

 

[newproject]

It depends on her full case of divorce n dept of complication ...no divorce case is so simple ...i done my own divorce ..meaning i self represented ...have u?

He who represents himself has a fool for a client.

Applies if you are female too lol.

 

[gladjo]

The one who trust his lawyer is the world greatest fool n that applies. I know of someone who trusted his lawyer n now he lost his share of the proceeds of his house.plus every mth still hv to pay his lawyer.. I get all the proceeds to me plus alimony n maintenance throughout my divorce proceedings.... wonder who's the one with $ or the one who trust his lawyer n ended up in debt to the lawyer is the winner.

 

[newproject]

The one who trust his lawyer is the world greatest fool n that applies. I know of someone who trusted his lawyer n now he lost his share of the proceeds of his house.plus every mth still hv to pay his lawyer.. I get all the proceeds to me plus alimony n maintenance throughout my divorce proceedings.... wonder who's the one with $ or the one who trust his lawyer n ended up in debt to the lawyer is the winner.

Interesting you are like a female version of life_is

Btw you are female the law is on your side in divorce. Is like boasting a university undergrad can beat a primary school kid at math. I see no evidence you are better than a lawyer.

I will be more impressed if you can help the guy win lol.

Want to help some of the guys here going through divorce? Or do you only do easy (female) cases?

To add on not all woman are so vicious and revengeful like you when divorcing.

Some have their pride and ethics or they still care for their exs and don't want hurt them so much. They don't want take advantage even if they can.

I'm sure you wouldn't understand based on your responses to some here.

 

[gladjo]

I nv mention names so why are u so vicious...he make a stupid mistake n wasnt staying at his house nor bother to check..blame who...u dont know what the intricate details so dun meddle. He's struggling with his.lost. futhermore...how much u know of me..u know nuts.. am vicious? You havent sit in a court room with his lawyer hammering down on me n me standing up to every lie and fabrication thrown...you dont even know which level n chamber let alone sit there n type ... i suffered so many years of silence...what u know..some big head junk head thinking all women r vicious. You dun even know how to handle a child crying in the middle of the night all alone n another baby crying for milk..what u know...have u beg an court officer for help ...have u sat in the witness chair ...grilled ..what u know. Please la ...grow up

 

[Infernolord]

I nv mention names so why are u so vicious...he make a stupid mistake n wasnt staying at his house nor bother to check..blame who...u dont know what the intricate details so dun meddle. He's struggling with his.lost. futhermore...how much u know of me..u know nuts.. am vicious? You havent sit in a court room with his lawyer hammering down on me n me standing up to every lie and fabrication thrown...you dont even know which level n chamber let alone sit there n type ... i suffered so many years of silence...what u know..some big head junk head thinking all women r vicious. You dun even know how to handle a child crying in the middle of the night all alone n another baby crying for milk..what u know...have u beg an court officer for help ...have u sat in the witness chair ...grilled ..what u know. Please la ...grow up

I been reading about your comments and advises.. Almost every reply, you are encouraging ladies to go ahead and divorce. Talk about laws, lawyers, how to keep property, protect yourself etc etc.

When it comes to a guy in such a situation, you will tell him to move on and dun take hold grudge blah blah..

You make me ponder what are you trying to advocate here?

 

[newproject]

I nv mention names so why are u so vicious...he make a stupid mistake n wasnt staying at his house nor bother to check..blame who...u dont know what the intricate details so dun meddle. He's struggling with his.lost. futhermore...how much u know of me..u know nuts.. am vicious? You havent sit in a court room with his lawyer hammering down on me n me standing up to every lie and fabrication thrown...you dont even know which level n chamber let alone sit there n type ... i suffered so many years of silence...what u know..some big head junk head thinking all women r vicious. You dun even know how to handle a child crying in the middle of the night all alone n another baby crying for milk..what u know...have u beg an court officer for help ...have u sat in the witness chair ...grilled ..what u know. Please la ...grow up

LOL that's barely coherent. Btw i don't think all woman are vicious people like meiji5 are not but is you who can't accept their choices.

Yes is obvious you suffered and I'm sorry for you. Just like life_is has suffered at hands of his ex wife. As I say you two are just mirror images of each other. Just one female one male.

Both suffered during a bitter divorce and both have a gigantic chip on their shoulders think they know the best way and go on forums telling people they know best on what to do and act like law experts.

Heck at least your counterpart life_is doesn't think he is better than a lawyer (or does he?).

You are proud you "won" but as I say the law is on woman's side due to wc, but ok I sincerely respect your win particularly since you represented yourself. But then what?

You two might have better legal knowledge on this than average but I think you guys are a clear warning on what *not* to become if you ever get divorced.

What is the point of "winning" but you end up so bitter, twisted and obsessed?

If you ask me people who try to make a clean break if possible and go uncontested are wiser and better off in long run.

 

[newproject]

I been reading about your comments and advises.. Almost every reply, you are encouraging ladies to go ahead and divorce. Talk about laws, lawyers, how to keep property, protect yourself etc etc.

When it comes to a guy in such a situation, you will tell him to move on and dun take hold grudge blah blah..

You make me ponder what are you trying to advocate here?

She's the mirror image of life_is.

They both suffered at hands of their exs. Then go crazy going all out to "win" and heavily biased against opposite gender.

Plot twist : they are each others ex. That's why life_is lose to his ex despite being so knowledgeable, cos his ex is even more powerful self represent also win

But seriously I hope people are wise enough to see that taking advice from people who are so troubled isn't a good idea.

But sigh this group just draws mostly from unhappy people. Or occasionally kids who haven't been in r/s.

I think I spot a few regulars who have had sad pasts but went on to overcome them and am happy now typically moved forward and found love again.

In some ways they are ideal because they know what you are feeling rather than just type cliches but they aren't so affected by their past they give one sided advice.

But very few of them exist. Am I wrong?

 

[gladjo]

U are wong ... n so wrong ...so u.must hv a last say right....'very few exist' hahahaha...what a small myopic sight you hv. U obviously havent sat in the witness box n got punch down ... bet u didnt even get thrown out by legal aid n get wash down by the person you.thought u trust most.... u just sit in your high white tower assuming this n that.. u havent walk in the rain with kids ..
Bet u havent dig for coins for kid's recess $ ....cos u i assume sitting in the high white tower well feed ..just banging here for attention ..please la
.who tell.u we are not moving on....who tell u we need u to tell.us to move on ..pls grow up la... in this whole there isnt any IDEAL suitation or ppl except in ur high white tower. We are normal ...mind u ...normal ppl n happyily moving on...dun need your assumptions n definitey dun need your feedback..try walking in our shoes then speak. Omg ..few of them exist...hahahhaab...so myopic..go work in social welfare then u know u just seen only the ice berg.

 

[newproject]

U are wong ... n so wrong ...so u.must hv a last say right....'very few exist' hahahaha...what a small myopic sight you hv. U obviously havent sat in the witness box n got punch down ... bet u didnt even get thrown out by legal aid n get wash down by the person you.thought u trust most.... u just sit in your high white tower assuming this n that.. u havent walk in the rain with kids ..
Bet u havent dig for coins for kid's recess $ ....cos u i assume sitting in the high white tower well feed ..just banging here for attention ..please la
.who tell.u we are not moving on....who tell u we need u to tell.us to move on ..pls grow up la... in this whole there isnt any IDEAL suitation or ppl except in ur high white tower. We are normal ...mind u ...normal ppl n happyily moving on...dun need your assumptions n definitey dun need your feedback..try walking in our shoes then speak. Omg ..few of them exist...hahahhaab...so myopic..go work in social welfare then u know u just seen only the ice berg.

OK you are happy if you say so.

So happy keep reciting why you are a victim.

 

[meiji5]

U are wong ... n so wrong ...so u.must hv a last say right....'very few exist' hahahaha...what a small myopic sight you hv. U obviously havent sat in the witness box n got punch down ... bet u didnt even get thrown out by legal aid n get wash down by the person you.thought u trust most.... u just sit in your high white tower assuming this n that.. u havent walk in the rain with kids ..
Bet u havent dig for coins for kid's recess $ ....cos u i assume sitting in the high white tower well feed ..just banging here for attention ..please la
.who tell.u we are not moving on....who tell u we need u to tell.us to move on ..pls grow up la... in this whole there isnt any IDEAL suitation or ppl except in ur high white tower. We are normal ...mind u ...normal ppl n happyily moving on...dun need your assumptions n definitey dun need your feedback..try walking in our shoes then speak. Omg ..few of them exist...hahahhaab...so myopic..go work in social welfare then u know u just seen only the ice berg.

Not here to judge or to understand what you've been through because I will never be able to understand unless I am you.

But the way you write your responses to some posts seem to be from a very angst position. No doubt you have been through a lot more things than most of us here, but the negativity or talking down on people won't help in communicating across to others. Yes, some people have harsh point of views it's just the same as how you would encounter anyone from the streets. You will never know how they respond but the most important thing is how you should respond that will reflect the person that you are. We're all here to help one another, not drag each other out. We've all been through all that crazy stuff and don't need such drama in our lives again.

I hope you understand that we're here to support each other. Any advice that you can give to others that can really help them is really appreciated. We only want this forum to be as non-judgmental as possible, it's hard to do but it can only begin with ourselves first. If others still want to take a stab at you, then don't bother about them. Don't need to prove anything to anyone. Hope you have a brighter day.

 

[newproject]

Not here to judge or to understand what you've been through because I will never be able to understand unless I am you.

But the way you write your responses to some posts seem to be from a very angst position. No doubt you have been through a lot more things than most of us here, but the negativity or talking down on people won't help in communicating across to others. Yes, some people have harsh point of views it's just the same as how you would encounter anyone from the streets. You will never know how they respond but the most important thing is how you should respond that will reflect the person that you are. We're all here to help one another, not drag each other out. We've all been through all that crazy stuff and don't need such drama in our lives again.

I hope you understand that we're here to support each other. Any advice that you can give to others that can really help them is really appreciated. We only want this forum to be as non-judgmental as possible, it's hard to do but it can only begin with ourselves first. If others still want to take a stab at you, then don't bother about them. Don't need to prove anything to anyone. Hope you have a brighter day.

Well said. I apologise for being harsh. But among other things i saw her response to you that's what set me off.

But yeah she very angsty , hope she will get better. Not just her but every angsty person in here.

 

[life_is]

She's the mirror image of life_is.

They both suffered at hands of their exs. Then go crazy going all out to "win" and heavily biased against opposite gender.

Plot twist : they are each others ex. That's why life_is lose to his ex despite being so knowledgeable, cos his ex is even more powerful self represent also win

But seriously I hope people are wise enough to see that taking advice from people who are so troubled isn't a good idea.

But sigh this group just draws mostly from unhappy people. Or occasionally kids who haven't been in r/s.

I think I spot a few regulars who have had sad pasts but went on to overcome them and am happy now typically moved forward and found love again.

In some ways they are ideal because they know what you are feeling rather than just type cliches but they aren't so affected by their past they give one sided advice.

But very few of them exist. Am I wrong?

Don't misunderstand me okay.

I asked for amicable divorce, because I couldn't stand having her mother and father manipulating me all the time to separate from my family. They did so much damage it wasn't possible to continue. Instead of negotiating amicably she started all the common tactics to cause me pain. Of course I won't believe the law is fair. It is solely for women to gain. Not a single lawyer I have seen actually think the law is fair. Even MSF and police are on the side of women. How many can say they have seen their ex hurt a child in public and get away with it by accusing you of hurting the child? That is a common tactic. I'm not saying I'm better than a lawyer. I don't advise people to divorce if they can help it. In fact I would rather have them talk it out to try and salvage if possible. Only advice to men is simple: don't get married unless you meet a god fearing person who would swear their life in a place of worship not to use the law to their advantage. At least have some faith that they will get punished for their actions.

 

[newproject]

Don't misunderstand me okay.

I asked for amicable divorce, because I couldn't stand having her mother and father manipulating me all the time to separate from my family. They did so much damage it wasn't possible to continue. Instead of negotiating amicably she started all the common tactics to cause me pain. Of course I won't believe the law is fair. It is solely for women to gain. Not a single lawyer I have seen actually think the law is fair. Even MSF and police are on the side of women. How many can say they have seen their ex hurt a child in public and get away with it by accusing you of hurting the child? That is a common tactic. I'm not saying I'm better than a lawyer. I don't advise people to divorce if they can help it. In fact I would rather have them talk it out to try and salvage if possible. Only advice to men is simple: don't get married unless you meet a god fearing person who would swear their life in a place of worship not to use the law to their advantage. At least have some faith that they will get punished for their actions.

Bro thanks for clarifying. BTW I think the law favours woman too. Heck I dont think you will get disagreement from anyone who is even a bit aware.

All of us here who have read your story here can see the injustice you suffered and the obvious pain you bear and we really sympathise particularly those of us who have suffered as well (though not to your extent)

So it's good that I've(actually not just me but others mentioned to me ) noticed over time your posts have become more moderate over time.

I really hope that eventually you can put your past behind you and move forward. I know it's not easy I took over 3 years to recover but luckily in my case the girl wasn't as crazy or vicious as yours though she was bad enough.

Hope things work out for you...

 

[life_is]

Bro thanks for clarifying. BTW I think the law favours woman too. Heck I dont think you will get disagreement from anyone who is even a bit aware.

All of us here who have read your story here can see the injustice you suffered and the obvious pain you bear and we really sympathise particularly those of us who have suffered as well (though not to your extent)

So it's good that I've(actually not just me but others mentioned to me ) noticed over time your posts have become more moderate over time.

I really hope that eventually you can put your past behind you and move forward. I know it's not easy I took over 3 years to recover but luckily in my case the girl wasn't as crazy or vicious as yours though she was bad enough.

Hope things work out for you...

I got nothing left to lose. So I will be one of those very angry voters who will vote in any idiot as long as not PAP. Unless they act on it and start treating men and women as equals. Tried proper channels to get things done but the whole system is full of women who are biased. So best course of action is to let the ministers in respective departments take the fall for not acting on it. They should really consider balancing the number of men and women in all the relevant departments, especially those that affect the judges with biased reports. Not many women can understand how unfair it is until they get the same treatment. In fact, I can link my case to other cases and create a big problem for some departments. Probably have enough evidence to give them problems.

 

[spice79]

Anyone here can help to advise how much it cost to get a lawyer to draft a seperation deeds?

 

[meiji5]

Anyone here can help to advise how much it cost to get a lawyer to draft a seperation deeds?

The one my ex used was $600. He paid for it cos his side drafted up the separation deed.

 

[spice79]

The one my ex used was $600. He paid for it cos his side drafted up the separation deed.

I see. Okok thanks. But what are the details drafting on the deeds? Maintainence montly he has to pay e.g for milk powder, expenses, childcare, monthly housing loan etc etc?

 

[meiji5]

I see. Okok thanks. But what are the details drafting on the deeds? Maintainence montly he has to pay e.g for milk powder, expenses, childcare, monthly housing loan etc etc?

I'm not very well versed in this but if you both are still amicable, you can have a mutual agreement before the details are drafted.
Else, you can include the details in the draft and have it sent to him first before going to the lawyers to have it formalised. Good luck!