How to reject or PREVENT mom-in-law from doing this?

Hi doll, I didn't expect them to be sold pretty quickly too. One of my girlfriends took 2. Sold her at $100 each. Altogether I sold 4. My fiance suggested using the new-found cash to fund our wedding first.
 


I thought you will pass the money to your MIL since you want so much to be respected. That will be a strong statement to show that you don't use pre-love items and you can't be bothered with the money.
 
Wah I dare not do that man. I still want to remain the "nice" daughter-in-law. I remembered asking her to sell but she appeared quite mad and said giving away is better.
 
You scared she calls you a cheapo ah?

Hey, you know what, you want respect but no guts to stand up for yourself. Cannot lah.
 
Hi doll, I stood up for myself by telling her I don't use secondhand bags. I did that already and that's as far as I would go in order not to upset her.

Hi chocolatte, no she wouldn't. I asked my fiance that too. If she asked and only when she does, would I say I have sold them.
 
In this case, then don't ever complain that she dumps you with second-hand stuff because you are making pure profits from these. It isn't fair that you speak ill of your MIL who did nothing but to fund your entrepreneurship. That's quite a bad DIL there, tsk tsk tsk.

And, standing up for yourself involves an action, not mere lip service you pay nicely.
 
Fund what entrepreneurship? Like what others have mentioned, it is a small matter and I have seen it as so. No need for me to action action just to show myself or prove to others that I do stand up for myself.
 
Surely and exactly! Then why did you make it sound like a problem in the first place and even bothered to start a thread. Kinda self-serving isn't it?!

What do you wanna show here, that you have a bad MIL or that you are a nice DIL when either is far from truth?????
 
Surely, Joy. That only showed how simple-minded you were, and please don't even argue with me on that because it was evident in how you broached the topic in your posts.
 
Really, doll, I wouldn't argue on why and how simple-minded you think I am. I came here for a solution and in the midst of it, I realised it wasn't a big matter. For me, I've gained from this.
 
Wrong. It wasn't I who think you are simple-minded but you showed how simple-minded and narrow-hearted you are. You exposed yourself ok. Big difference there, madam.
 
Sorry to hijack this thread, what I write here beneath has no direct relation to Joy. Fellow forummers, (especially the oldies) are rather interesting to watch.

The moment I lost faith was when I discovered totalitarian regime encompassed the entire forum (well, almost the entire forum). I'm all for a gender balance, but here the tone at times is very misogynistic. Women (unintelligent ones, excluded) writing in could get a lot of flak for telling her mawkingly sentimental stories, albeit not always sensible. However, if one is able to provide insight without cluttering his or her message with scorn, it would not hamper the core message getting through. There is an overdose of animosity-lingo, whether or not you call it just a figment of anybody´s imagination, at this forum. It broods resentment.

Some people are keen on some thread starters/ `the allegedly accused` capitulating under the increasing pressure put on. It has become apparent that many forummers jump in the bandwagon after the initial regular replies in his jarring tone (some call it `frankness). Some even gloat when abusing TS for voicing his/her view, citing exclamations like,`This is self-serving !` Fellow regulars lament on lack of e.q. in thread starters but interestingly enough, when those who have established their aliases here are lacking in e.q. nobody comments on that. The same regulars who have met up are inhibited to do their `very frank-talk` to each other when they misjudge a new character. It does show a little bit of a camaraderie in their reluctance to voice out the wrong doings between regulars. I do think, on occasions, that certain people desire to be right, go back and forth for it's own end and not as a mean to anything else. Either that or they are deeply incomprehensible in speech.

Doll is the ultimate scavenger, behind the tough facade is an insecure woman who´d never strike the first blow but waits for the character to become a carcass. On occasions, she´d post something and delete it entirely. Her usual comments are one-liners in argumentative state. At most she scribbles a few sentences to the TS. There is a huge difference between making one´s analysis crystal clear and being unscrupulous in one´s words, scorning the inadequacies of others at full throttle. But when the TS is `pardoned` by fellow forummers, Doll miraculously jumps to a much nicer tone towards the person.

In conventional social chat Powder is pleasant to talk with, thoughtful in conversation, his determination and willpower are immense but when he doesn´t keep his ego in check, he becomes painfully complacent. His passion for conviction is overwhelming, even when he is in the wrong, he is very apt in choreographing a plot to the point you´d believe whatever he says. He is particularly perceptive. He relates to fellow forummers as a leader and can be blunt to those he dislikes by expressing his disgust in unreasonable resentment. He can be very unforgiving to faults in others and yet feel exasperatingly prosecuted when someone else utters his shortcomings. Usually, he would not tolerate argument from anyone who challenges his opinions.

As for May Ong, some people have found her actions to be a heinous, including myself, but concurrently, I find her views most interesting. She skillfully observes, conceptualizes, verbalizes, although she is not always fair and at times even clumsy. Her fault was letting the thought sip in she could join in the regulars-camaraderie in whacking anybody. When provoked, she can explode into violent outbursts in which she seems to lose all self-control. She can be a very determined enemy. Her increasing bold speech sent shock waves and eventually resulted in her not commenting in this forum indefinitely. Her exit from this forum could very well stem from the feeling of being ousted. I had hoped against all hopes she´d be a bit more resilient in staying because she writes some really good stuff.
 
watching,

the problem with u is... u dun engage pple directly, dun make a stand directly, dun commit to your views directly, and u simply skirt the peripherals like a reporter making views which Becos u dun engage directly, u try to sneak in comments and immediately get away scott-free without ever having to take responsibility for your words...

your constant insinuations of there being a gang n hierarchy is to simply put it - Wrong. but becos u try to sneak it into the subconscious with posts like the above, u will tend to have pple think in your direction... sadly, those who are steered towards your directions are often weak and eager for own agendas.

your constant references to me as a leader is very irritating... i have no wish to be a leader in a fcuking wedding forum, i'm not sure what glory or sense in that, seriously... can u tell me exactly the benefits of it? feel-good factor? i think if u do get to heaven, u will realise how foolish and blinded u have been by your own agenda, that u fail to see past your own glasses.

u point to me showing favourtism... how lost can u be? i'm not a father figure here nor do i wanna be... u get me wrong, yet u dun wish to engage me and point out beyond reasonable doubt... u keep saying how interesting this is, that is... u are simply an audience who doesn't partake nor wish to be involved... yet u want everyone to sit up and listen when u speak. your seemingly proficiency in the language, does not hide the shallow mind behond it. why spend time making comments without having the integrity to be responsible for them...? hypocrisy at its finest moments...

u are simply manipulative. your role in this forum is more of that coffeeshop uncle who complains on the latest policies and talks big... but when a forum is held by the gov, u dun attend and u dun say your piece and u think u got it all figured out. u are condescending without the credentials as there is little from your posts to suggest that u are in any state to make committed decisions and stand.

end of the day u dun fight, u just manipulate and watch others fight. then u come in with your piece and make comments without anything constructive.

u were never in a position to lose faith, nor be disappointed... tat's rather condescending of u. u think this is a show to entertain u...
 
Powder,

Your provocative response, `You do not engage whatever directly` is to motivate me to engage in you. Out of courtesy, here I am. Nonetheless, when your bait receives no attention, will you not clutch onto this as forum discussions carry on ? I doubt it. You orchestrate the plot to make it look like I could possibly prevent you from rectifying what I say, IF I am unwilling to engage in you directly. By pointing to an external factor, you are most certainly not taking responsibility for your own actions.

As mentioned before, in your contentious state of mind, things said by whoever is not inline with you would be discredited and thrown on the scrap heap. There is no place for a reasonable discussion. You will not hesitate to use trickery when you are losing, for lack of a better word, a battle. You will use any weapon, cunning evasiveness, escaping blame by contriving to put it on other people. I wouldn´t be surprised when you aptly turn all this on me, after all, `I am out of your league at playing mind games.` That said, it isn't particularly hard to tell you have an ego issue. It´s rather conflicting that you to come here and analyze things with a punching ambience, intentionally or unintentionally aggravating the thread starter, telling TS not to fight fellow forummers. But when you are being analyzed/examined, you easily rouse to a combative state. Hypocrisy perhaps ? Do note that I do not think the worst of you, on the contrary actually (go ahead and contest this is fake or manipulative or whatever).

Having met one another inhibits forummers to voice out the wrong-doings of each other towards new characters, for fear of social sanctions or just plain awkwardness. They cannot operate incognito towards each other, the element of anonymity is lacking. The only whacking occurs to un-met thread starters. In that context, yes, there is a gang. Every now and then, someone does come around and point out the wrong doings of some regulars but more often than not, they don't. Camaraderie. The tone is very different when the `battle` is between regulars, the battle takes place with utmost respect. I am of the opinion fellow forummers could take a little effort in alleviating animosity-lingo in their well meaning advices to newbie TS in order not to hamper the core of the message.

Loosing faith in a forum whereby the culture is totalitarian is something that can happen, not a right. When ones loses faith he or she would hold back seeking advice here for the response could very well be denunciation. It doesn't happen everytime but it happens a lot.
 
losing? (2nd para line 3) the only batlle i am interested in, is bettering our lives... tat's the only reason i am on forums... if i bother to say anything, it's to reach out and tackle mindsets that i see destroying the pple who posts.

nonetheless, a good 90% of what u say is untrue. if only u bother to count the percentage of times i have been blatantly honest n harsh, versus the time i have put in alot of effort to get into the minds of pple thru my posts... u pick the harsher ones n magnify it becos it is who u are.

u can't handle problems nor offer anything constructive most of the time, u therefore choose to make snide remarks abt pple who posts, like this forum needs a biased reporter.

the 3rd paragraph shows how simplistic u are... it is true on behavioural instances amongst those with weak minds... but it is certainly untrue here. tell me who is my gang here, then find give me the names of those i have in biase, Not cross swords with.

and whilst u're at it, tell me who i have met and made an allegiance with...

if u think the tone with regulars is different, then look First at the person i am addressing. if it's someone dumb, what sort of high level respect can i speak to the person with?

if u were one of these dumb-blondes, i wouldn't even bother addressing u this way, would i? i know u're not dumb, but u certainly have issues with me... u seem to be in this forum living and breathing Powder n a few others. what else do u really post?

if u wanna be a vigilante, do it in offering solutions... not by being a biase reporter.

it sickens me no end to see u constantly speaking in such manner that i am keen to be in this forum for self-serving purposes. it really does... God take my soul from my body tonight if that were so.

pls rest... u are barking up the wrong tree and u got me totally wrong. pls spend your time helping others instead of telling pple how they should help others when u dun ever intend to get involved. 纸上谈兵, 借刀æ€äºº.

between u n me, and when speaking to me... u dun actually hold the right to talk abt being disappointed in this forum. pple leave the forum not becos of my presence... it's becos they are facing issues in life and come here to seek time over that period... once the problem is solved, they dun stay, they simply move on... and i think that is good. goto the wedding prep threads and see if those who have had their weddings are as active as when they were Going to have their wedding. some would now be in the motherhood forum.

for all the observation u try to flaunt, u can't even observe this basic part of humans. u are simply trying to attribute anything negative to my presence.

pls help pple for a change, dun just be an uneffective observer with opinions... of all the types of forummers, u are the worst kind.

i know u do not think the worst of me, but that's becos u can't. it does not reflect your good nature, but rather - that i have little which u can find fault with in life. so dun make that your credit... dun sneak that accolade to yourself.

ps: losing? that is the summary of your mindset when u post. your subconscious use of that word exposes your true agenda.
 
oh ya, dun forget to name me the pe whom i've met, and whom igang up with biasely. not gonna let u get away with that allegation...
 
sori had to rush to a biz meeting, so typed a quick one... "pe" was meant to be "pple".

for that, pls let me know who in the last recent mths i've met and collaborated with. best if u can show i ever needed anyone to be on my side when reasoning in my posts... do u seriously see me needing any support? ever? Liar aren't u? pple who share my views support me? can't 2 pple have similar views? u and i share a similar view in living our lives now... are u supporting my decision to live? must u commit suicide to differentiate yourself? shallow little sneaky ideas u try to incorporate, dun u think?

one more thing, pls give me the threads where i have unfairly and unduly been harsh and unreasonable in my postings... dun just give a generic sweep and hope to get away with it... Substantiate pls.

and in instances where i argue to advice-givers on their advice being crap, offer me a better solution workable solution u have, support these pple with Your advice if u believe in their advice.

and in cases where TS like Joy has obsessive worries of their flats being burnt down... pls offer them a solution that either solves The problem of the neighbours, or solves their personal issues - depending on your Take, if u have any even at all. or any intention to be helpful instead.

there's much work for u to do if u wanna engage me. like i said, be responsible for the things u say... dun just talk general and avoid having to back it up. talk facts, not theories of what u think... Substantiate. dun just talk out of your ass...
 
And so the scrutiny begins......since you requested non-generics. I'd expect you to scrutinize the word scrutiny, o, my subconscious ! Ha !

Oddly enough, it sickens you to think I only mention you are here for self-serving purposes, that I attribute anything negative to your presence, when I said good and bad things about you (first posting). Whoever said this is about you and only you ? Your sensitivity leads you to quickly detect insult and injury to yourself. How conflicting for you feel grossly prosecuted when your tone to others is often a lot rasher. You are supposedly a victim of what I write with all my "biasness", what a peevish child-like behavior. What´s next, throw in "leave a legacy behind", rouse into ferocious anger if I don´t take back what I say ? When all else fails, hurl vulgarities and exhaust yourself ? You are still hung up on the matter of extreme arrogance and "alleged" haughtiness ? Are there really elements of truth in what has been said by different individuals that make you jumpy whenever that is mentioned ?

I made it known I was talking about the tone against intelligent people writing in, `Women (unintelligent ones, excluded) writing in could get a lot of flak for telling her mawkingly sentimental stories, albeit not always sensible.` It´s no brainer 2 or more people can think the same, you are pushing me to take one and only one stance. You would not tolerate whatever is not in your alignment and label others as being weak minded if they contemplate to think in my direction. Are you some sort of impugn ruler who controls who says what and when ? And if I do write like a reporter, I shudder to think how you´d throw me in prison if you were Hitler or Mao Ze Dong in real life. That totalitarian culture is in perpetuity at this forum. Inner thoughts of newbie thread starters or May Ong have to be modified in such ways that they cannot express themselves, since is it a crime. Only integrated regulars who have met up can say nasty things but not to one another for they need to take social sanctions or awkwardness into account.

To set the record straight, there are 4 things to differentiate, 1) Not about "constitutional" right 2) Totalitarian culture. 3) Hesitation of writing here due to denunciation 4) Not about your presence. Don´t feign ignorance.
-You´d rather focus on your presence than the wrong usage of uttering constitutional right (don´t go twisting this word). Whoever said, "pple leave the forum becos of YOUR presence" ? That excessive reference to yourself has got to stop Powder, it´s nauseating. I said people hold back writing due to the risk of denunciation, that is a hindsight they take, some even leave the thread unresolved, after fighting forummers. You throw a smoke bomb here with, "come here and seek advice, leave the forum and live happily ever after" with regards to what ? Wedding preparations ? That´s an off tangent example. You evade acknowledging your stupid remark "in no position"/ right. It is never about the right. Do go back and forth for your own end to defend what you say. It is exactly that unapologetic behavior, when you are in the wrong, that keeps you getting, for lack of a better word, harassed. It is apparent your unyielding way is a result of your ego.

Had I not mentioned you´d discredit everything I say, you wouldn´t have coincidentally mentioned you disagree with "just" 90%. Unfortunately for those engaging in you, you reflect every change in your surroundings, like a chameleon. What´s up with calling me "not a dumb blonde" ? Is it a negative laden compliment of a positive laden insult ? The duality in your words betrays your subconscious in going to the opposite direction I go, in your contentious state. The versatility of your words makes you very adaptable, which brings me to the next,

"if i bother to say anything, it's to reach out and tackle mindsets that i see destroying the pple who posts".
- So not true, you bother to entrap me in engaging in you. Master of deceit and trickery, first you bait me to engage in your less aggressive tone and when I do, you throw in, `there's much work for u to do if u wanna engage me.` I do recall you "complaining" I did not engage in you directly. The first reply was just cordial invite. Notice how your tone changes in time, from a more `neutral` tone to excessive hastiness of agitation in a matter of 2 hours last night. Changing nouns like "untruth" to "lies" in 2 hours. 3 consecutive posts in 2 hours, now you are engrossed with me. Avoid degenerating into confident trickster, okay ?

Oh yes, the bait is out for the umpteenth time, asking me to name those you have an allegiance with and so forth. You want me to drag them personally in here and if I do, the trampling begins from 3rd, 4th ...18th parties. You would lure your adversaries into traps and confound them with "logic" to show off your cleverness.

http://www.singaporebrides.com/forumboard/messages/5/867328.html?1229399079 classic instance of forummers making little effort to alleviate their tone. I would have pasted the TS´s other thread but apparently it was so feisty it got deleted. Now I know how your mind works, don´t go saying I'd use every ounce of energy to dig this up when you specifically ask for an example, like how you attempted entrapment okay ? As I said before, it isn´t about you, don´t make it always about you.

Example of how different your tone is to regulars when you disagree: http://www.singaporebrides.com/cgi-bin/forumboard/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=5&page=1214133 Very evasive hah ?

http://www.singaporebrides.com/forumboard/messages/5/1496346.html?1282808034 The tone here contradicts your tone in the thread above, this one is for being unreasonable in eruptions of extreme temper. You reinforce the notion by being undisciplined to give way to your rage. It is also evident here how you tried to garder support, saying initially there were 2 people who see what you see and increasing the number to 5 (seeking herd mentality). I am anticipating you saying I have issues with you for choosing this thread, how predictable.

It struck me you didn´t ask me to proof you have an ego issue for you to negate that......there are quite a few.

Well, you didn´t think I would have known about these threads......how uncanny !

ps: If I reply, it will be on 2 February. Don't wait up.
 
rushing for biz dinner, but do give more than 1 example... i've been in many many threads over the years... 1 or 2 isn't gonna prove a point for character references and accusations.

won't be waiting for your replies... u are not a stayer in the first place.
 
no lah, u were gonna scoot off anyway... that's u. why make it sound like it has anything to do with me?

when u wanna make character references, i think i would be expecting at least a few hundred links to prove anything, given the number of posts i have made...

when i am harsh to dumb blondes, u can't say it's becos i am harsh... it is fairer to observe that i am harsh to dumb blondes.

and really, i do not wish u come back... u contribute fcukall...
 
dismayed? u do think too highly of yourself... come back just come back, dun have to jump off me as a platform n start your insinuations again.
 

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