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msasia

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i met a guy online, he is from singapore..He seems nice and trustworthy and claims that he is loyal and sincere to all his relationship. he is lonely because he was being cheated by his girlfriend. We have common friends online so I easily trusted him, we became a couple after 3 months of chatting.

He revealed later on that he has kids. Initially, i was hurt because i believe i should know this things prior to blossoming relationship. I asked him to tell it all so that i can take all the blow of his past in just one hit. he said there's nothing more. He went here in my country to visit me and we became much more In-love with each. but after he went back to singapore he revealed then that he is currently in annulment process..... then later on confirms my instinct that he and wife still live together in the same roof.

I ended the relationship before he can tell another lies, something like; there is no annullment involved between him and wife at all.

Now, i feel like I want to call the wife and tell her what her husband is doing behind her back. He will do it again with another gullible girl like me. Fortunately for him, I don't have anyway of contacting any of his relatives as he is very careful with those info.

Girls should always listen to Instinct. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
 


Nowadays?? Please lah.
You are hurt because you are naive and gullible.

You need to wake up. Wolves in sheep's clothes isn't exactly something new or unheard of. When you choose to trust blindly, there is really nothing to cry foul about. Yes, he is a predator. But, you didn't protect yourself sufficiently. You were an easy target.

When others read your story, should they also come up with a similar generalizing statement "Women nowadays are so gullible!".
 
^ yes you are right Milo. I never denied I' am gullible. But if i will be given the chance to turn back time, i will trust him all over again. It's not the mistake we make along the way but it's how we rise after we realized our mistake.

I said "nowadays" because it is my first time to ever met a guy like that. I have boyfriends before and no one is just like him. When you are in love, you believe in what your love is always telling you about.. all because you love the person. If you don't believe with the person you are with, then why have a relationship with the person anyway?

When others read your post, they will agree to me that you have never been in-love before. I maybe wrong but they will come up with a generalizing statement " Men have always been cold-hearted" ... peace...=)
 
Hi, while I do feel sympathetic about your situation, I think your subject title is unfair and too much of a generalisation.

Just FYI that I met my fiance online too, and I was extremely guarded. I took everything he said with a pinch of salt, and didn't just fling myself head-on into the so-called r/s. It took a long time to get to know him and even then, the trust was earnt and not given freely.

No point contacting his wife or relatives. What are you trying to prove? Such vengeful retaliation is unecessary and only reflects badly upon yourself. His wife will find out about his true colours sooner or later, and that is his problem, not yours.

Just be glad that you found out about this and had the guts to end things before it progressed further.
 
You think the wife can "control" your bf from lying to and hurting other women?

You know the answer is NO.

So, if you want to expose him to the wife, you do it but don't try to "brand" it a noble cause.
 
haha.... I'm not cold hearted and you were quick to assume.
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What do you expect from the forum? Folks to kiss and hug you? Sayang and continue encouraging you to be blind and follow your emotions??

Just because its your 1st experience doesn't make it a generically 1st time for everyone. So, think again before making such generic statements.

You excuse your naive thinking as being in love. Emotions do cloud our perception to some extend. But it doesn't remove any responsibility. Its your life your choice. You take charge. When someone cheated you. You take responsibility and pick up the lesson. Crying foul does nothing.

Each experience should make one wiser. Let it make you wiser. It doesn't mean you will stop loving. Just make you more aware and less blind. You need to protect yourself sufficiently. No matter how strongly you want to believe in a person, it has to be consistent with reality. Else, you are just being foolish. Don't insult love. Love isn't foolish.
 
i stand corrected. I should have think more of an appropriate title.

Nah, i don't really have plan to talk to wife i just feel like i can do it because i feel betrayed but i know i can't do it. It's just an empty threat. by the way, we have been couple for a year now. I believe that time is enough for me to trust him fully.

thanks for the insight guys..=)
 
i have always been in-tune with my heart. as i have already said, I don't have plans to retaliate because i know it will just take away the peace of mind i have now. I just said those things because it's just my way of getting the grrr.. feeling. I'm actually glad that i have confirmed my instinct that something is totally wrong before he come back here for his second visit. I appreciate all the feedback...=)
 
instincts could be very wrong. Just has how you thought I'm some unfeeling heartless guy that hasn't been in love before. Every relationship will feel like its the one when we are getting into it. It is the opposite when we finally wanted out. Its like waves, with highs and lows. More so for most women than most men. So, don't let your emotions alone guide you. Emotions are still important for sure. No one wants to marry someone we don't feel for. But, it isn't everything. Emotions doesn't move mountains, it is our determination and will power that move it. Love just provide the reason and drive to go through it.
 
didn't i say 'confirmed' instinct?.. i know instinct is not always right that is why i waited for him to confirm it. And because i'm seriously taking note of your (milo's) advices i don't trust that all because you say qoutes about love it means you are not the heartless guy i initially think of. I must guard myself sufficiently.. Lol!!!...=)
 
Keep those eyes open but don't jump to conclusions
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Its can be fine grey line. Striking the balance between trust and being blind. If it helps, take steps back when confused. Take time to reflect. Looking it from a macro view could reveal obvious points that is blind in the micro view. If you are suspecting something, rationalize it.
 
you were right about the balance between trust and being blind. but with my past situation, there were a lot of factors why i can't take a step back one is a singaporean culture against mine; traditions, law, lifestyle and etc.. i tried to research online but it didn't help that much. two is the long distance, i can't find incongruent behaviors not even catch his first reactions everytime i confront him on my suspicion and because we talk online he could have probably stitched another story. My point is what seem easy or obvious on you may not be the same for others. Just for the record, it's not as if I have been totally fooled as you may think of. i did invest emotionally but not physically....that as far as i can remember... =)
 
stimes its not the matter of fact you si-bei chio or rich r wat...kind

its one's fate..u can be plain jane..not much educated ...but still meet the right guy

so what you are pretty....attract e wrong guy.sian........
 
to dimpxtt: ouch! so you mean even if the person has totally appealing personality, and choose to be on a good/more acceptable kind of living if it's fated then there's nothing one can do?

i believe that one chooses his/her own destiny. We may fall at times but it's our determination to move on and make a better self that counts.
 
Confronting a liar isn't going to help. He will just come up with a story. The fact that you guys only chat online mostly, it isn't wise to invest so much emotionally. At the end, there is never a guarantee. What advises and lessons you can pick up would only sharpen your judgement. Its not a fool-proof guarantee of anything. Evaluate the risk and take your decision fully aware of the consequence. Regardless the outcome, u knew the possibilities. Disappointed you may be, but its no surprise really.
 
Starting a relationship online has its challenges bu t it is not impossible.

Don't reoly on instinct. If people are evasive about their family and/or where they stay and you are ready to commit into a relationship, the warning signs should be clear.
 
hi sm, yah. i agree with the warning signs.

But, there are those would go great length to fake their identities etc. Even pretend to want to marry the gal, go visit her family and parents etc. Such high hand con man are more difficult to detect.

And not all are out to cheat. Some may be searching for a new relationship but not being truthful about their marital status. The online dangers are there. One can only do this much to guard. When they decide to take the risk, expect the possibilities. Don't just happily believing in the best case scenario.
 
you are right again Milo. knowing him for a year, i know im not going to have a straight answer. I just prayed to God to reveal everything i need to know and the strength to face the truth. God is so good to me to grant my wish before it's too late.

to sm: i saw those signs actually... well, at least now i have experienced these things. if someday someone will be in the same dilemma i can somehow put an input...
 
yea ms asia, i totally agree with you...

men are untrustworthy, unlike we women... cos we breathe, eat, drink, make love through our instinct and nothing else.

the fact that we have good instincts and men are good liars mean that God is indeed fair, as we women are able to catch those blardy liars in men...

let's blame it on men, other than the stupid internet that match-made you and that liar.

cheers to women!
 
Hi Ms Asia,

Psychologically speaking, you are not in love with him.

And I feel that it is too pre-mature to judge that man. But it seems that you are usually jumping to conclusions pre-maturely. LOL~

Relationship is never one straight line. Complications can result. I am not saying he does or doesn't love you, or you should or shouldn't trust or love him.

There are cases of women here who end up realising they ain't married to their Ones, and some go ahead planning to marry even before they finish or even initiate the divorce process.

Dear Ms Asia, this is matter of the heart. I think you are too work out for fear of being suffering a loss. If you really love a man, you'd do more beyond being so agitated of his kids or annulment.

Equally, if a man does love a woman, he won't be that bothered about her kids or status.

So what he has no kids and has annulled? Without love, you could be the next on the divorce list with him. LOL~
 
actually you cannot trust nobody lah...woman also what...i am sure everyone have something to tell. You tell your supposedly good friend your problem, she turn around and tell others. or your best friend stole your boyfriend / husband...so many such stories...otherwise where got need for Singapore Brides and Aunt Agony?

what i am saying is, a bad experience does not mean you will get another bad experience - learn from it and move on. Even if you are with someone physically, he can also cheat on you if he wants.

If there is a will, there is a way.
 
Hi Mr. scope. why do i feel like you are siding the guy? are you my ex-boyfriend? hahaha... just joking..

pre-maturely?.. im not in love with him? that is a pre-mature assumption on your part too sir. There are things i did not mention here like he never chat whenever he is at home. he never call on the phone whenever he is at home. He is outside with kids on BOTH holidays, and weekends. the only time he has for me is whenever he is at the office. i have never had the glimpse of his house on cam which he claimed his and only living with a relative. He said he is not living with his wife anymore and the kids is living with their Mom away from him.. I inquire why is that he prefers to chat on me in the office late at night when he can enjoy his home while chatting with me... He was very evasive with his social networkng site, there was no relative on it... Tell me I'm i pre-maturely jumping to conclusions?

I maybe jumping to conclusion yes, but it's a smart conclusions. I don't need to write here how i cried to make you think im in-love with him. My love is not in question here, It's his.

im not bothered with the kids, if i do i would have ended the relationship when i found out.

im not moved with the fact that he is currently in annulment. if i do i would have cut the communication right there and then.

but im definetly bothered with his constant lying. Before i say my 'yes' i have asked him if he is married or have kids. But now look at what is happening, the wife even stay with him at the same roof!!! honestly i would have put up with the situation if he didn't hide these things to me. if there is nothing to feel guilty about, then why hide it?...

i have to let go of the relationship before i go crazy.
 
then just go ahead let go. it is just a man, what's the big deal?

you are really a very confused person. the way you talk, doesn't sound like an appealing or attractive person either. that's why you are the no. 1 target for cads like the man you describe.

pls wake up and wise up.
 
are you dim-witted? he is married, says he is annulling (you mean divorce, you can't annul when you already have children) but the actual status is hazy, lies constantly, and you are still going "i have to let go of the relationship before i go crazy."

moreover, this 'relationship' is mainly a virtual one on the internet happening in long distance?

you are the same type as those women who have children by three different men, all of whom dumped her after she doesnt abort. or the same type as those women who uses abortion as contraception.

either that or you are 17 years old, but you sound somewhat auntyish so you are probably 30 plus with a mind of a teenager. and are you even employed?

unbelievable ...
 
agree with may. if u wanna date online, be prepared for all the risks.

just let it go, why the need to seek revenge by telling his wife and relatives abt it??? Blame it on the fact that u were naive and gullible.

learn to let go and u will be much happier.
 
i wonder why people here keep saying im too quick to assume when they themselves are way too judgemental. that is really confusing. I admit I may put assumptions on someone here but i was never as judgemental as that one above.

Another thing, didn't I say I broke the relationship already before he can make up another lies? by the way, the man im talking about is big deal to me because i love him but i have to be firm to break the relationship because it is the right thing to do.
 
Hi Ms Asia,

No no no, crying doesn't mean you really love someone, but that sure was heart-breaking.

When I left my women, they always cried... They 'loved' me, but do they truly love me. Love is not so simple in my view, my dear.

Besides, you'd have to be pretty attractive to be my ex-girlfriend. I define beauty with a pure soul, elegance, and very lady-like with culture. Not bimbos, to be exact. LOL~

What I am saying is very simple, if you hence truly love him, those lies are merely white lies on his part. Lying is not an issue in relationship where you must always be so worked up. Come on, women lied all the time. If I have to use a scoreboard to determine love, within a month, most women would have lied to the doors to be sent straight out. LOL~

What I am saying is this... If this man is really yours, and like many men and women who got married for all the wrong reasons, he of course will want to find another. Understandable.

Unlike guys, women are well-known to be sickly particular about such marital status. If he is going to annul or divorce his wife because of a bad mistake made for you, it's just a time of courtship for you before you end up married.

You can choose to end this courtship, but his marital status will be a poor excuse hence. Because you can meet the same him when he has annulled, and your choosing to end this courtship will hence only be due to be 'bad timing'. Which means you are crazy. LOL~

Bad timing is very very bad reason to affect love. LOL~

Sounds ridiculous, but if you do truly love him, and he does love you, and he is annuling his marriage to come to you using lies to protect this fragile relationship... You'd be in a bad position to just go.

Of course, for you... you might think there is a possibility of him just wanting to play you. You feel hurted, all your emotions are writing all over the place here.

I do not take sides, got it? I don't even care about avatars, nor hence avatars' spouses or love interests... Don't be silly.

Let me be frank with you, living under the same roof is nothing. Many of my women are foreign beauties, if need be, I'd let them stay in my home as well if they need to work in Singapore. If you are bothered about the sex issue with them, even without the wife, the man can still go to Geylang. LOL~

Women's thinking... ... never fails to amaze me.

Ms Asia, what I am saying is this... You may have said yes, but said yes doesn't mean anything. You still know that guy, you can still have a friendly tea, shopping and such... no sex, and upon he annulled his marriage, you can choose to go on marrying him; OR if you hence met another after his annulment is like going on forever after he met you... It's ok.

The most important thing I am saying is, you do love that guy as you so claimed, you must look at the big picture. Be prepared to fight for him, and fight alongside with him. When a guy is in a bad marriage, and you appear, and you are together, he would see the need to end it to be fair to you and to claim you.

So... ... If you are not prepared to wait for him, then I don't think you should. Because your 'love' doesn't weigh more than his lies and his struggle to be free again. So even if he annulled and you met him then marry him, it's not based on true love. You'd have problems.

Why hide? There are many things in this world that for the perfection of making things possible requires undertable dealings.

If you ask why, you better really have the brains to have confirmed answers. You are all hurt and emotional, and you are missing the big picture. Not good. LOL~

I cannot give you any advise as the rest would, because you are all emotional and totally irrational. You only have yourself to ask, do you really love the man, what is your true desire in this relationship, and what should you do.

Every relationship could have problems. If such things can affect you, anything can affect you. Your problem could be two extremes: One, he is only toying with you, then and again, it's just bad timing.

If it were to be the latter case... and he happens to be the One. You'd lose him. Period. If he is toying with you, or you suspect so, just don't have sex with him. Simple. A man toys women for two things: Money and sex.

Offer neither, and you'd sail through easily. LOL~
 
Again, to set the record straight. i had broken up with my boyfriend way before i posted the thread. past tense.

i will refrain from answering those upleasant judgement because i understand the person is not in her right mind to even say those things without even knowing me.
 
Ms Asia,

There is no such thing as the right thing to do in relationship as to break with the one you love...

You are just totally confused.

If you truly love someone... the only reason why you break up with him or her is to give him or her happiness. Marriage will not even be a barrier to your heart's inclination.

I am afraid that your reasons for breaking up is pure selfish and in a confusion. Let's just say... if you met him after he annulled and he still have kids, I am sure as you already told us... you'd be together.

Bad-timing... or the problem is really about you?

See? The point is, do you love him. And of course, does he really love you?
 
to scope guy: we all have different meaning of love, different way of showing our love. It doesn't mean that when the person does not show you the love you expected it means the person doesn't really love you. i believe i have to take the fault for not telling it all here for you to make an assumptions that i did not fight for the love. i did. i just don't want to go to details. I know i have given my best and that is enough for me. by the way, i neither offer him any of the two you mentioned. I'm a christian and i'm strict with these things. i believe i mentioned it here already, just in case you missed to read.
 
i undrstand where you are coming from Scope. as i have said i did fight for our love. i told him im gonna hold on till he get annulled. but something happend. i wish not to tell it here. what i shared here is only half of what happend and people here cannot see the whole idea without it. but i prefer to stay it that way. I know i'm in the right track. I just shared my experience with a singaporean... errrr.. im not generalizing just that he was my first foreigner boyfriend. I posted my experience here because people can give inputs and insight and will probably understand because you share the same culture, lifestyle, etc..

to answer your last question. from the things that transpired i believe he doesn't love me. he just need me probably because he is bored with his wife, maybe he doesn't get the same attention from his wife.. those were assumptions of course, it doesn't mean it is true. I have asked for God's guidance and I'm more at peace now. I'm not confused, i don't care if you believe it or not. I'm just happy that everything has finally end and done.
 
True love overcomes all... including religion.

For me, I only know one meaning of love... love means love lah~ LOL~ We all live this life once, our feeling will be hence.

What I said is very general with response to your case. It's not your fault to leave out details, because truly only you will know probably if he loves you or not; or IF it is because you are a Christian and your love is not stronger than your faith in the bible.

But... using this chance, if your true love does appear, do you think between your faith towards God and the love God has sent you... I am interested to know, which one will you choose? ^.^

No offence, just a quiz. You may benefit in knowing yourself much much better.

Love me love me love me love me, don't know what to do... If we were in the second world war... I were to be captured, you were holding a gun and the only one who could save me would be you, assuming I am the one you love, would you take the gun and risk your life for me?

It's the same nature of the quiz above.

One believes in God... but not his will... nor understands His love... and greatness of within. I always wonder... many monks read sutras everyday, but how many shall become Buddhas eventually by faithfully reading so many sutras... Hmmm...
 
Ms Asia,

If he doesn't love you, and you are sure about it. You have made the right decision. Even if you are married, you'd have to break free.

Well... God has given you a heart not for without a purpose. Your heart never lies.

Though I am more curious than ever about the 'rest of the discovery', experience tells me that I should not ask too much. LOL~
 
that is one complicated quiz Scope. my nose bleeds...lol.. i prefer to keep the answer for myself because whatever answer i give, know you will use my answer against me... lol..

i know he doesn't love me, His love is actually my only reason why i still hold on to the relationship despite all the lies. But if there are people who will be affected like wife and kids then i'd rather let go. I have never envisioned myself to be a full time mistress.
 
Ms asia, no point calling the wife and telling her what happen. You've decided to move out of his life, so just concentrate on living happily for yourself now.
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@ariel: dont wori, I don't have plans to do it in real life. i'm a coward really.... it's just my way of... i don't know... all I'm sure of is i can't really call the wife. maybe i feel sorry for the wife as i'm a woman myself. thanks for the well wish..=)
 
hi Ms asia, can see your frustration in your conversation with scope.

Before getting anymore frustrated, suggest you to read other threads that he is active in. You can still engage him. But, at least, you know what to expect from him.
 
Hi Ms Asia,

Mistress? LOL~ Probably why I don't advocate marriage in the first place. When status or label enters the picture, many women will become confused. And it's bad to cultivate love.

I am not exactly using your answer to be against you. You are probably thinking of that because the point that the answer is about you for yourself to know yourself.

I have nothing against you, so why should I argue about you against you when it is you. I am not you. LOL~

But... I am indeed quite naughty in this aspect. ^.^


There is no need to feel sorry for the wife. If she isn't the One, and she insisted to just grab, even without you, that man could have met someone else. If you tell the wife or not tell the wife, doesn't matter. Both of them are not meant for each other. If the wife loves the man truly, your existance won't even affect anything. If the wife doesn't love the man, all you did is just aid the wife and husband to lose what they don't really love... a marriage which shouldn't be in the first place.

We were all born from nothing, before we attained higher thinking, most of us are cowards/chickens or just confusions...

There is nothing complicated in the quiz. The ultimate goal of being a monk in his faith should be becoming a Buddha, and to be a Buddha you need the qualities with the coresponding deeds; the ultimate goal of believing God is for a better self, and when it comes to love, if you believe in God, He has obviously created that man for you although the man may not be perfect, or the timing.

But love will overcome all.

Nothing complicated. It's just like the monk, he chose to believe in Buddhism, but just because he encountered military invasions doesn't mean the monk should not kill... What is Buddhism when you be your peaceful monk and let the invasions turn everywhere hell and many innocent people killed while you watching?

Can you see the point?

Hence, in general, unless you know very solidly that the man doesn't really love you... just break. Where in the end if you marry this man, you'd of course miss the One. LOL~

But if you are giving yourself too many excuses, bad timing and labels are nothing in the face of love. In Singapore, it's ok... religion doesn't matter as well as race. But to point out the issue here...

Labels such as skin colors or even dialect groups could be a factor to 'love' affair in other lands. We may find them funny... But our future generations will find us funny as well as you dwelled on something called mistress and so on. In maternal society where many men fvck one woman... they have their own labels to consider.

But what's the gist?

If you are not offering sex, you can always maintain a casual friendship... where in the long run, he may change OR you may have discovered more about him of which you have wronged about him.

But understand... Money or man... Just as man's greed for money they would fight for it. If there is a man whom you truly love, you'd definitely try fighting for.

Mistress... It's nothing but a silly label. LOL~
 
I see..... now i know where i got the idea that you are siding the guy I'm talking to.. birds with the same feather flocks together... no offense meant but you and him almost have the same points of view.

we are casual friends as far as i know. we ended up nicely. As far as i can remember, i told him that if we are meant to be then we will meant to be. No animosity or whatever. i just really feel sorry for the wife who probably doesn't know who she has been married to or maybe she knows his husbands business but just didn't care as she does the same thing too.

But it was dissapointing to hear when you said that the wife should live up with infidelity if it is true love. May i ask you scope?.. if your wife just f*ck every man she feels to and comes back to you and f*ck you too, is that fair? is that sounds lovely? Maybe I'm too conservative. but if one wants that kind of lifestyle might as well don't marry at all. Marriage is sacred. if time comes that marriage is irreparable, then seek for a divorce then that's the time you can look for another love. or maybe file for a divorce and live separately from the wife to make a way for the "mistress" or "new love".

or maybe i just don't understand singapore culture.
 

Hi Ms Asia,

Is that how you see it? LOL~

The story is very simple and to cut short, my woman left me willfully and disappeared for 2 years with a baby delivered to this world with the other man. And her family 'supported' such betrayal. LOL~

When she disappeared for almost two years, I decided to move on as well, so I took a week and got a new woman. I told the story before.

However I decided to give the betrayer a second chance. I totally ignored the so-called the other man and the other baby. Your relevant question should be, why I ignore conveniently that man and that baby? Because I love my women.

Love is always about the women you love, not the man who intervened. But I am letting her go as she got worse than before she left for another man... It's impossible to carry on.

She got her second chance is because she appeared when I had nothing, was stuck, was low-morale, she was the reason I even got my honors... My parents are very difficult... And I was love-sick back then, and she was really perfect.

She never learns her lesson.

I suspect she was with more than that man... when even earlier an event before her latest mess she disappeared in Shanghai. There was even intimate pictures with yet another I once seen. ^.^

Birds of the same feather you said... LOL~

Marriage is sacred only when you believe it to be, silly. Only love is sacred. LOL~ Anyway, I am taking care of this woman for her need to work in Singapore... If she doesn't work, who will feed that baby she had with another?

Which was why I flew back to Singapore to make sure she stays within my sight. Since she can't make it, I am giving her a soft landing, then later in the year or early next year she can go back to China.

She's out of her mind...

You can't compare me to that man of yours. I think you got the wrong way round. If there is someone living with infidelity, it would be me. LOL~

So... To your question:
"if your wife just f*ck every man she feels to and comes back to you and f*ck you too, is that fair?"

What? You think relationship is a game of command and conquer, and there is a fairness?

You are not conservative. You just haven't met a man who based relationship on love. You might think I feel hurt, the other man matters, or even the bastard child is a constant nemesis to me...

I detest that jerk, but it doesn't affect my love to my women. And I even hugged that bastard child when I saw him recently a few months back. It's just an innocent baby.

The reason why this woman must go, is only because she really... can't make it, she becomes more ridiculous. Too horrible.

If I were to be married, seeking for divorce is not necessary before I seek again. I don't even need a lawyer for what divorce. I can do it myself. LOL~

If you were meant to be, if there shalt be happiness, you cannot stop searching, and you cannot refuse to fight for it. Ms Asia, how you treat a relationship or a man will decide how far you will go to eventually secure the One.

To me, there is no such thing as make way for new love or old love, they are all loved ones! I don't believe marriage in the first place, but forever love. Marriage is just a mere formality. Matters of the heart is still about how truthful you are with your heart.

In my story, coming back to Singapore also broke the heart of another woman... But did that woman love me truly? She doesn't trust me, so she lost me.

I am not siding hence with that man. You got to get your facts right.

Nothing disappointing. You just asked what many normal women with social norms would... without much thinking. And you get my earnest answer in return.

So what do you think? Do you think I really mind about this 'green hat'? LOL~ Nope. To be exact, this is life, 'Green Hat' is a label. Always remember, love is always with the person you love, not with labels. If just because she has sex with another man out of stupidty and I kicked her out of my love-life... Or focus on this thing called 'infidelity...

How much love do I have for a woman?

Love is great. Do not contain it within a tiny little cultureless box of social norms.

If you cannot see beyond the other woman or the other man, or the bastard child, or crazy in-laws or what usual rubbish in relationship matters... Trust me, you won't go very far.

So the question is, Ms Asia, do you now understand what is love that you are seeking of?
 
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