Women drivers

thanks for the opinion.

Wong,

That expectation that all other drivers to be law abiding and be patient to give way to them is truly unrealistic. You can enjoy your discussions on traffic rules with watching.... no driver can demand others to comply. If others want to wait, by all means, if they want to cut, and there is space for it, cut. As long it is done safely. Why do you think everyone needs to wait for you?

The point that the 'environment' or 'condition' stress you is really a moot point. Everyone else is also driving in the same context. It points back to how well you can learn to adapt. Be alert and aware of the traffic, not panick spider over every little thing.
 


fat, ugly and like to stalk pple MILO,

i know your BO gets worse when u panick spider !

OMG.....what a stench.
 
Again, to put it more clearly, I do not agree with your point that in SG, people wait MORE patiently than in other countries for people to get into their lots, such that Singaporean drivers get used to having LONGER buffer times that they would NOT get ANYWHERE ELSE in the world.
It has nothing to do with the expectations of drivers being law abiding or traffic rules or adaptations or what not that you have been going on about. Yes sure, on the roads, its like the fittest survive and you should definitely not be hogging the roads. I had driven long distances with a UHaul truck, towing my own car behind, on mountain roads that I have to share with 20/40/etcfoot container trucks with their huge ass engines and it is very quickly obvious that they do not tolerate road hoggers. So no, I don't think, nor expect, that everyone needs to wait for me and neither do I become a panic spider over every little thing. Please stop putting words in my mouth. I just find that Singaporean drivers are not more patient than drivers in other countries, unlike what you have claimed. And that sometimes, Singaporean drivers cannot wait at all, not even for that required, not expected, 5 seconds, be it for people who are parking or for people who are crossing the roads, such that it is not longer an issue of traffic rules. It is just downright unsafe.
 
wong, your spelling is definitely better than fat, ugly and like to stalk pple Milo.

Thank for pointing this out.

He is still a "panick" spider ! STINKO leh.
 
Wong, in Singapore, we do have big buffers. Parking lots are well defined with sufficient gaps between each lot. The gap we keep locally is larger and more orderly than most other neighbouring countries. This is the reality. But its not enough, folks like you want everyone to be patiently waiting. Just because you are honk at, does your buffer disappear? if doesn't. Drivers that take 10 times to park properly are still going that. In India, everyone honks all the time and drives much closer, you will be 'stressed' all the time. You don't need to drive that far, just in Malaysia, traffic is much more a mess. Cars on the highway driving at high speeds with hardly any gap tail gating.

How else to describe someone that is so stressed parking in singapore because you faced with impatient drivers. Its really laughable. In any city, you will have more impatient drivers, its the same even in europe. You will have big buffers in the countryside not urban environment. Parking lots overseas are way much tighter if you talk about europe.
 
"Actually, I don't feel that drivers in Singapore are that patient to wait for you to finish parking. Very often, they will inch until they are very close to you, making you feel stressed out. Some may even flash their lights or honk at you."

I didn't put words in your month. You said it yourself.... you are stressed out. This is despite the reality that we have relatively big and well defined parking spaces in our lots in singapore because of impatient drivers that honk at you and move closer. You don't realize the reason why drivers move forward is because there is sufficient gap. They move forward not simply because they are impatient but because there are obvious gaps. You are stressed because you don't see that gap, you think they are inching very close to you, your judgement of space is poor.

Don't take my words for it. Do the test yourself. Inch forward when you park to a distance you feel is close. Pull over and step out. See for yourself the reality of how much space you really have. Is it exactly as close as you think? Your perception an accurate judgement of the reality?
 
Odd....pushing traffic rules to Wong when he wasn´t talking about that initially.

If I were to dig Milo´s shitty stuff, I´d nitpick on things like "hutchbatch" and "Judgement improve when you make the call....."
 
Many Lonely people here.....get a life dude. i am surprise this website still survive.

look at all the people here from the beginning until the end is the same. people already go youtube or other website more interact with video or pictures. let say more lively......

now here stone age forum. there is not vote up and down on the comment.

very sleepy site....
 
mirror,

coffeeshops have been in existence for the longest time... some of them older than us... the coffeeboy is now the coffee uncle... they can be tucked into that little obscure corner of an estate.

they exist not for u, but for everyone who may pass and drop by... for those who stay close enough - it can be the daily hangout or a morning routine of coffee, half boiled eggs and newspapers...

if u fancy macdonald's... u have the legs to walk to mac's... u dun have the drop by the coffeeshop to tell the coffeeshop that pple are moving on to macdonald's... even ah kun & killineys are modernised...

the coffeeshop remains a modest institution for those who still want or need it from time to time... dun fault the coffeeshop if u dun like the pple eating there.

it's great that u have moved on... it's great that u have a life... what's not cool is that u think u have a life simply becos u goto youtube and other websites... shows how shallow u are. u seem to assume everyone else here only comes here... i'm not sure how 'interactive youtube' is but i normally use it to find stuff i wanna see or miss out.

in your ultra-modern happening state, u should know well that everyone is capable of being in 10-15 forums at any given day...
 
Clearly you are unable to see that I am writing from a third person point of view. Let me rephrase it.

"Actually, I don't feel that drivers in Singapore are that patient to wait for a driver to finish parking. Very often, they will inch until they are very close to the driver who is parking, making him or her feel stressed out. Some may even flash their lights or honk at that driver."

So please stop telling me how bad a driver I am. This is purely from an observational point when I'm in another person's car and that person is stressed our, or if I am a pedestrian in the carpark walking to my car and seeing another driver clearly stressed out and some times in the end drive off. If I can see that the headlights of the car, which is inching towards the car that is parking, is definitely inline with the passenger door, there is no space to squeeze past. Perhaps you should do that test yourself and see for youself, when you are inching towards the car, is there actually space to squeeze past.
 
Thing is, I don't inch forward.... i mentioned this clearly. There are times some really ridiculous poor drivers just refusing to move blocking everyone. I am more than generous to give space to drivers. When they are still too scared to move, I wave at them assuring that its good to go. Still, they are not moving and the traffic builds up and everyone is stuck. I'm witnessing drivers that take the luxury of time at the expense of people.

If after many times, the lousy driver still in the same position, I will just drive off the moment i get the chance. Beeping to alert while clearing it. It is evident that there are lots of drivers that still expect space despite given lots of it already. Drivers that sways and unable to stay within lanes on bend, taking 2 lanes to make their turns and looking damn blur when you honk at them to warn them. This is what I see in Singapore all of the time. Stress? in comparison to what? In all of SEA, is there another place with more orderly parking and drivers giving so much gap.

Sometimes there are jokers that will do exactly you mentioned, inch forward, very rarely happening to me. If it does happen, I honk to warn the fellow and avoid everyone getting stucked. Haven't you realize why it hardly happen?

Basic consideration in driving, giving way and minimizing blocking the traffic. When parking, always moving aside and asking the drivers to move 1st. When others give way or there is the opportunity to park first, I wave and park swiftly, not making the driver regret giving way. I do that all the time. This is why. There is hardly a need to inch forward.

Bad behavior cause more bad reactions. They are not magnets to bad inconsiderate drivers, they are inconsiderate drivers themselves that makes other drivers lost their patience. These are the group of drivers that is getting so stressed. It is funny that you mentioned you are in another car, then why didn't it happen to your car instead? Same simple reason isn't it? The manner you said it, its as if, Singaporeans don't give space, it is hardly true. More than often, we are given so much more space than when you drive in Bangkok, India, China, Malaysia, Indonesia. Basically most other countries in asia, ours is the most orderly already.
 
i just saw a hyundai avante chasing down a cab, then overtook it very dangerously before jam-braking right in front of it. it almost got the cab into an accident... we never know who the passengers inside are... i guess the taxi might have done something wrong before the incident, to cause the Avante to be so aggressive.

actually one of the reasons i buy cars that do 0-100 in under 6 secs, is to avoid such altercations... some pple really react badly when u overtake them... half the time they are either hogging or driving really slowly... but once u wanna go ahead, they also pick up speed.

i think our nation is so deprived that we bully when given a chance.
 
fat, ugly and like to stalk pple Milo,

The moment of silence should be extended to SHUT THE HELL UP for you !
 
kent,

If, IF there is a hell... u're gonna be burning so badly... and Eternity is a pretty long endless time.

guess u dun care, but then u dun know that unknown of whether there is a place in hell for worthless souls like yours that do nothing for mankind.

u're truly a waste of the human body,
 
What gives me aneurysm on Singapore roads,
1. Hog lane 1. I don't want to debate the right to drive at the speed limit in lane 1. To me it's kinda like in a supermarket - there's no law that says you should not block an aisle. Or if you do, you should move to let someone through. Its simply common sense and basic courtesy. And on the roads there is no soft whispering of 'excuse me'. If you're upset by the high-beam, right signal or honk, just remember you deserve it.

2. Not indicating a turn signal on a non-dedicated turning lane. Drivers behind you make decisions based on what you indicate you'd do. If you're turning on a lane that's an optional turning lane, let it be known! This is so drivers are not stuck behind you unnecessarily.

2a. Not using the turn signal when it's required. You know, like making a turn or switching lanes.

3. Would not drive alongside buses or heavy vehicles. This is not defensive driving, this is offensively stupid driving. The lanes are wide enough to accommodate both vehicles. If not they'd have to hire police escort when they travel. Don't brake don't slow down, just go.

4. Braking or slowing down when approaching a green-light junction. Only to speed through the junction upon the light blinking or turning amber.

4a. Cruising sllllllowly to a stop before a junction that's red. Now that's usually ok, except you do it when the car behind you wants to make a turn before the junction. Or when a car is waiting to turn into your lane while you take your own sweet time arriving at the junction.

5. Drifting from one lane to another. This happens a lot when there's a bend on the road. Local drivers seem to have a problem with lane discipline when driving along a bend.

6. Driving in the afternoon. This is when the delivery trucks, the aunties and the retirees are out doing what they do. Weather is hot and people are sleepy in their airconed cocoon. You feel like Neo after he attained his messianic power - everything slows to a crawl.
 
tat pretty much covers most of my peeves... but would like to include...

7. changing lanes to take Pole position at traffic lights, only to either Not move when lights turn green, or move really really slowly. Worst - by the time the fella realise the light is green, it turns Amber and he speeds off, leaving everyone behind getting screwed.

8. NOT knowing that even tho the light is red, the green arrow to turn right or left, means cars Can actually do so, but instead wait till the full lights turn green. Same applies to "left turn on red" signs...

9. u're on the left-most lane, and still have bikes on your left. u're on the right-most and still have bikes on your right. worst - they wanna go straight whilst u're turning.

i have serious issues with pple who dun turn, can't turn, can't filter, wait til the road is absolutely empty before turning. and with pple who dun realise the lane they are filtering into - IS purely for filtering cars... so instead they wait and watch the traffic like a dumbass with a whole lane in front for them to filter into.
 
Hahaha... I had a good time reading the 9 peeves.

I have been experiencing a lot of (5) recently and yup, it really is irritating. The thing is, they drift or worse, stay in the middle of two lanes for very long, not just a while. Sometimes I just keep a distance and see what other 'stunts' they are up to.

I hate (9) too. ST had an columnist writing on that a while ago - cyclists. they are like kings. Worse is around the Sembawang Park area, where there are many foreign workers cycling even in the middle lane, and all sorts of appalling behavior. Go take a look, especially during the evenings when they knock off.

Recently I had the privilege to drive in the afternoons and I was surprised by the stark difference in the profile of drivers. Haha... so slow moving, the traffic. now I know why... haha.

It was an interesting read.
 
tell that to the folks that think its so stress locally. Also, jokers that think somehow its about traffic rules only. When perception is so far off reality, its a real concern. Hazardous to have dreamers on the roads.

10. Drivers that cut several lanes really slowly ignoring incoming traffic and even brake to slow down further.

Too many egoistic selfish drivers on the roads.

Not everyone that honks or cuts are trying to race u. They only want to bypass the mess and move on. Slow drivers can take their time to be stress.
 
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