Really heartbroken this time.


as like mine case, in my heart, i hope that fate plays a part for me and her to reunite again. Studies is to upgrade myself. u know what, she was very excitied that if i get my licence, i could sent her home after dinner at my place at that time.
 
NO i don't.

i believe some things are fated, but these things Does Not include me... rich or poor is in my hands. the kind of wife i have is in my hands. my future is in my hands. everything i do now and tomoro will be the future i envision, so No, fate does not extend to me.

once u believe in fate, and u believe u won't be anywhere... u will be nowhere.
 
spent on whats necessary and dont spend unnecessary like what i did at that time during the relationship. making her worried about my finances.
 
i mean in the way of fate to know her instance for my case. coz im working in a enviroment with all married woman and man in this company. so thats out of the qn.
 
that's not fate, that's opportunity n coincidence. calling it fate takes away the credit and effort that both of u put into knowing each other and getting together. the company has nothing to do with it... u still needed to pluck up your courage and she still needed to give u a chance.

spend unnecessary - depends... If u earn unnecessary money, u can spend unnecessary money... so if u like to spend unneccessary monety, then try to earn unneccessary money lor... very logical rite?

problem is most pple only earn necessary money to buy necessary things...
 
as seen in my situation now. a chance from her seems alittle too far. as u mention, somewhere in her heart there is still the love for me. pardon me for saying this, im worried if time drags on too long, the feelings would be gone on us? she mention to me she just gave eveything up and her mum mention that it may take her quite awhile to be in contact. other then a friend concern there is nothing else. im just hoping for empty things.
 
chances are - she will meet someone more eligible than u, and u will meet other girls whom u might find more suitable for u... that's life isn't it? pple dun break up if they really wanna be together... they break up to be single and open their doors again.

of cos the chances of it dying off is there, but it's supposed to happen mah... u should not be thinking that this is dragging on becos it's Ended, and not discontinued for awhile.

If your mind thinks that it is Dragging... then obviously u are hoping that this is just gonna be a 2-3wks thing... is that realistic? u're entertaining the whole thought of being together almost immediately again... how abt work? future? career? studies? they have not happened yet and here u are thinking liao...
 
for the understanding i get from her, she is not that type of lady whom will easily fall in love again. i know there are exceptions. exceptions are everywhere. from what i know it took her a long while to get over her 1st bf which she knew in NUS, at least a good 2yrs and she still havent let go. apprantly, the guy had another gf outside and was two timing. so she initiated the breakup when the guy didnt ans who he wanted. they were together for 3 yrs dragging.after that she knew another guy before me but the very next day she sms that guy and told him she was not prepared and the next was me. so that so called 1/2 day bf of hers doesnt exist. just at that time when i get to know her, the time and place was right for me to ask for her hand.

as what u said, time and place is very impt. its not fate that plays a big part. its the opportunity and coincidence.
 
powder, all these future and career and work takes time i know. im just stating what sort of person or character she is... im not jumping in anything yet...
 
i dun suggest u replay this... to u, maybe these are the few suitors and possibilities... but anyone can meet anyone and everyone. the list may be much longer than u think, and even if it's short - it should not matter to u liao... so replay all these for what?

u really LL n no chance.
 
you will do just fine as long as you are remaining positive and opened to self improvements. i.e. reflecting not for the intention and hope to reconciliation.

Your focus need to be bigger than the lost relationship. Its about your future... both career and character. In fact, that is the best bet you have. Don't cling on the last bit of emotions u have and ruin it. Treasure that and move on.
 
just keep walking... some of things u feel now will not be the same in future... particularly where relationship and girls are concerned. nomatter wat u think abt your ex gfren being the only one for u and all that - it will not stay. there will always be someone who can match... Pple who normally cannot find someone else - are typically pple who are not looking, but simply stay in the past.

there are many many many many many many many many girls out there... many many many many many... realy really really really alot.
 
Hmmm... if base on this ratio, guys will have more choices then....

Why stick on one "hei bee"... Why not go out find "hei por" or "lobster"
 
ya, there are many many girls out there. but the right one for each other is difficult to find. my social circle is not big. and all are guys mostly.

and before my relationship with her, i was being held up by stupid and crazy girls. which instead not i wanted u see. until she came, she was the type i was looking for..
 
not really difficult if u know wat u want, and u have most of what u want liao...

your social circle - u can change, it's in your hands. dun wait until 50 then decide Yes my social circle too small... when u are 20yrs old, i can tell this to u liao. so this is a FACT, and what's great is - it's a Fact u can Change.
 
actually u can if u want. the only thing that u'll get is some rejection and some embarassment, otherwise u can approach any girl anywhere to actually know them... this is tough when we're young, but as u get older, u care less abt what pple think and u just go for what u want.

my whole point is - everything u want to do and achieve - is in your hands... of cos, Don't do bad things.
 
but she is just doing what her heart tells her to and not what her mind tells her to do. she isnt doing things rationally. am i supposed to say that. and i know that she felt that it is confortable to be together despite everything. hais...
 
isn't it enough that she hasn't have the heart to marry and be with you anymore? Why are you still dwelling on that? Or would u want a marriage that it out of logic and obligation?
 
Ou,

what makes u think that her ability to make decisions are not as good as yours, or that her decisions are not good? as i see it, her decision to breakup seems rather sound... dun take offence, but alot of pple have opinions of decisions... and that includes me.

9 out of 10 pple advised me to do something else with my life. i made my first million in my early 30s... so should i have listened to them or myself?

learn to just concentrate on yourself... often pple dun listen to u until u are worth listening to.
 
my parents are also saying this to me. she's doing things without consulting first. she called off the house. why people tend to lose it then treasure it. ya, she told me she gave everything up and her heart is dead on the relationship.

why i find myself dwelling on it so much.. arrgghh... its hard, its really hard...

powder, r u trying to say her decision was right? humans have flaws, as what my mum told me, she can;t tolerate it anymore and didnt want to. thats y she ended it and said that both parties got to compromise willingly. if the other party is compromising forcefully and not willingly, i just forget abt her..
 
Ou,

You really ought to snap out of this unhappy mode liao. Din you realise that all these ranting is getting you nowhere except where you start off?

Know this as a fact, girls dun like wishy washy kinda guy, so if you r planning to widen your circle, you better buck up. Confident men lures girls like bees to honey. You may be showing a sensitive side of you, but girls will be thinking of the baggage that you carry with you.

Know this as a fact, girls are a lot smarter, braver and stronger than they let on, and this includes your gf.

Powder, you r really patient.. *kow tow*
 
Right or wrong, its subjective. But its a decision she believes and stand by. So, respect that. Even if you disagree. We don't make perfect decisions all the time but no one can come force things down our throat saying this or that is good for you. Neither can you do so to her.
 
breakingfree, i know i shouldnt do this and be wishy washy, im not ranting.. just needed someone to listen to me.. sorry if i said anything wrong.

milo, she making decision and forcing me to take it. wheather anot the decision is... as u said we humans dont make prefect decision all the time. this time she's not going by my rules, and following her rules.
 
hi, look.... it takes 2 to click but only 1 to stop. Get it?

When one decided to part, do u think u have a choice. u can cry father mother, nothing will change that. In fact, the more u beg her to change her mind, the more resolute she will be. In a way, u r chasing her away and proving that her decision is correct. This has alot to do with psychology. Which is why my advise for you is to stop focusing on reconcilation. IF it comes, its a blessing, its not an entitlement, she don't own u a living or something.

Even after marriage, one can choose to divorce. Move on and respect her right to choose to leave you. Don't follow her rules. Its about finding yourself again. Your future. not her, not what's already lost. Our lives don't depend on the decisions of others, we take charge and move on regardless.
 
You dun hv to apologise to me.. it's your life afterall. Nothing wrong to rant, but excessive ranting can make you a negative person. Why carry on digging a hole that will make u sink deeper when you can just cover it up? Esp when you no longer can make the decision.

Sometimes you have to turn out all the questions that no one can answer u and just let go. Ignore all the sadness and just tell yourself you dun need to know anymore. Tell yourself you deserve better treatment than that.

It's hard, but it can be done.
 
ya... why make myself so miserable.. i know she's feeling that way now too... its hard, i will try my very best to overcome it this time... no matter what happens....
 
well Ou,

it takes two pple to wanna hold hands n walk. if one party doesn't wanna hold hands, the other party can' do much... if u die die wanna run after and hold her hand, u're just harassing, tio bo?

i'm not saying her decision is right, i'm saying that her decision to breakup seems rather sound in the current circumstances. u must also respect that her considerations isn't weighing on u alone, but could include her dad and mum whom she might want to give a better life and insurance in the form of a financially-strong marriage...

i'm not sure if both of u are below average, but it could be as simple as wanting a better life, and she might feel that being with u - she might have to give that up.

whilst i have no problem being poor, i dun ever wanna be poor again and i make a conscious choice to always stay financially healthy. i cannot do it If i dun have the environment that allows that, so i have to Move out of that environment.

there's only 2 things for u now.... 1) stay stuck and keep trying until u win her back or she change her name and ic no. to avoid u.... 2) move on, build your life first, then hope that she's still avail... (altho chances are u would have met someone else).

your choice.
 
powder, i would chose option 1. i know myself, once i love a lady or had chosen carefully i wont change. means to say im faithful.

i havent being in much contact with her till now which is coming to a mth. we are just alittle above average. means that our financially are still ok. is only that buying of excessive things are not allowed at this moment.

we spent quite alot when we were together at the first, till we decided that spending in this way is not apporiate. so we cut down quite abit on expenses.

when her father was in hospital at that time, she was quite worried abt the bills and all. but lucky, she bought insurance coverage for her dad which in turn help to cover the bills completely. now her father is having 2 more type of illness which is diabities and high blood pressure on top of his heat condition. her mum is having some health problems too..

neverthless. i stand by her side to give my utmost support but in financially wise, im still able to help out abit.

i reflected on the problems all or and it seems that i had neglected her thoughts and feelings at that time, which i was muffed. she had too many things to worried and i added my worries to her unknowingly. she was worried abt my job, my finances, and everything abt me. i did told her i could manange. and that time she had sleepless nights having nightmares quite often.

she did mention of going to see a doctor regarding her stress level being unable to take it. i agreed with her, and i know she is not feeling gd abt telling me this. i can feel it, but didnt really went ahead to see a doctor as per her warning.

the 2 options, i chose option 1, she is remaining little contact with me. how should i do to win her back? i could only contact her mum. thats the only way. she block me from msn and her mobile phone is off frm last wk till now. i have no concrete advise on that.
 
and last wk i meet her to sign the documents, she mention she took up a part time job to help her friend to manage. her friend is working as a property agent. and passed her a mobile phone for people who are interested to get the house to contact her so that her friend could concentrate on more major issues. earning is 10 percent of the agent comission.

when we were in cold war, she mention that she only want to look after her parents till they old and die. she keep stressing to me that her life is all alone herself. that is her life. for what i think, what she meant was she's going to look after her parents now only and other concerns are out of her tempoary or maybe she just dont want to think about anything. im not sure.

her mum did told me that she's putting down love matters aside at the moment and will be focusin on her new job and looking after her parents.
 
so basically u just wanna just continue rite? then continue, i'm not stopping u. just telling u to respect and accept and improve yourself for the time-being... but since u keep trying to find reasons to continue something she doesn't want, then just wish u good louck lor... i won't indulge u too much on your past. it's past liao.

"i know myself, once i love a lady or had chosen carefully i wont change. means to say im faithful"
- ppls who say this often dun know themselves, nor are they having alot of options... pple who are wise - dn say such things becos they know that life offers endless possibilities and nothing is ever certain.

it's only pple who are in love and refuse to give up on that one person - who say such things. a large number of pple i know who say such things eventually also end up with someone better and keep quiet liao.
 
you are one scary guy, it's so obvious that she's Not into u anymore. She blocked you in msn and changed her phone no cos she doesnt want u in her life... she Dun need u.... she Can cope Without u... and the best thing is she Dun even wanna keep u as a friend so pls stop harassing her la
 
she did stress that our lives, views and thinking are different. she may have got it mistaken somewhere and somehow of what we argue about and show her. misunderstanding of both of us become quite serious and communication breakdown too..

regard to her thinking i may have given some neglect on it. causing the insecurity on her. ya, she did gave me chances, i changed but somehow, i would revert to my old ways sometimes but i keep telling myself to not harbour this type of thinking. i told her before, i need some time, some time to change not to suit her but to compromise.
 
i didnt harasse her anymore. i did in the start of the mess. lyn2wen, please dont say that. i dont have this intention to, and i know i did a wrong move, didnt think properly abt it.

actually from what i see, i might gave her quite a number of fears that time.. i really dont know why she changed to another person.
 
"i know myself, once i love a lady or had chosen carefully i wont change. means to say im faithful"

I agree with powder on this. If you are so faithful and so able to "take care" of her, you won't be in a situation that you are in... so be real.. we won't know what is going to happen in the future. Don't say words that has no real meaning.

Since she has blocked you in MSN and changed her no. Please her alone ba. give her space and time. And don't dwell on her. Don't talk about her. Don't post about her. It is for your own good. Find new friends. Find new activities. Improve yourself. In time to come, how we know that you may cross paths with her again? Or you would possibly find someone better or more suitable for you.
 
"i could only contact her mum. thats the only way. she block me from msn and her mobile phone is off frm last wk till now"

arent u trying to contact her? To u, u feel u are not harrassing her But to her she may find u very irritating so thats y she wanna break off all contacts with u.
 
looks like nothing can be done as she already dont want me in her life anymore. as to say i can be a part of her life but not in her life.

life have many possibilites, is only at that time i neglected the importance of it. only concentrating on other issues instead. i really dont wish her to have this type of feeling on me now. to do so, i should stop contacting her at the moment till she move on and all?
 
by contacting her mum is to show the support to her. she's not really knowing im contacting her mum. i know it maybe none of my business of her life now, and my life is none of her business. she didnt change her hp no. , but most likly, as what simpleman, powder and lyn2wen said. i shouldnt hold on or dwell too much on it now.

i should try to put confidence back into myself now and change from my mistakes from now.
 
yes, no point crying over spill milk.

find ur goals, grow to be a better person.
get driving license
take up a course
whatever.......

n Dun make the same mistakes again
All the best!
 
thanks lyn2wen.. just as the other posters in this forum. i have this same kind of feelings as them. yet im trying very hard to move on.

needed to release it out thru black and white to at least reflect clearly on the picture and how not to repeat the same mistakes again.

but really thanks to all who gave me support and reply my posts. u all are really wonderful guys and ladies. i may be ignorant at some things, but after looking at these forum and all. it make me realise things that are more impt and makes me not neglected my other partner's thinking again and not imposing my feelings on her.
 
Yeah, don't contact her for now. Give her some time and space lah.

If you really care for her. You can contact her mom like once a while to see how things going.

I hope you can stop posting about her now. Go find a life..
 
actually she moved on liao, u're the one who cannot move on and think u have to show her support and this and that... and honestly, do u think her mum will not tell her? this part i feel u are abit naive...

bro, the thing is Over liao... u keep wanting to wish her well, show her support... Dun u get that she doesn't need it from u? Dun u get that of ALLLLLLLLLLLL the pple in the world to give her any form of support, u are not even the last one?

she dun need your help, nor support, nor contact at all leh...

u are the one who needs it, but u make it like she needs u.

re-channel your energy pls.
 
ya i understand, powder, thats y i shouldnt call her mum that often anymore. maybe as a friend concern next time. yup, she's moving on slowly, and i can see that. she got to move on coz she need to support her family more then i do.

by the way she was not feeling well ytd, email her in the morning and she replied that she ok. and working today.
 
ya, i will rechannel my energy on other things instead. let this matter rest and life still have to go on. i need money to feed myself and pay bills and allowances to my family etc....
 
really dont know what is she up to. receive a call from her mum and her mum was crying over the phone and saying weird things.

wasnt contacting her anymore. she just sms me to ask me to bring the wedding rings to her mum if possible. i replied her 'what for?' and her mum call me and told me off in the phone not to contact her anymore. i wasnt contacting her. she was the on who msg me first. and throw me things which hurt me. i said to her mum, why are u throwing u and ur daughter throwing things back at me. im also a victim, her mum makes it sounds like im all the one at fault.

what plot is she up too again. everything was her idea and now she starting to push all the blame to me like getting married to me was a mistake and we had little understanding of each other.

im trying very hard to move on.. and yet a call from her mum makes me feel so bad. my parents are worried abt me too and had sleepless nights. i didnt complain to her, and yet she had the cheek to come and say me. wth! and i got to see a counselor.

all this while my parents are very supportive of me, im very glad that they are still there 4 me, no doubt we didnt communicate much.
 


Hey, She obviously playing mind games as my ex. Ignore her la. Ignore her sms. When she know you not in the least interested, maybe it is the other way round she will be begging you back..

Same pattern as my ex.. Ignore him, he will come and forward me those sweet msg when he is the one who doesnt want to be friend and wants to stop all contact. Worst part, he is attached now.
 

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