Problematic In-Laws

cookie0511

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Hi all, I am new to this forum. :-)

Actually my bf and I had plans to get married next year but his parents have been giving us trouble for a long time. I am Chinese, my bf is Eurasian, and we are both Catholics. His parents are Catholics too.

However, ever since we got together in 2009 (we met in 2008), his parents have not been happy with me. The first time I went to his place, it was his mother's birthday. My bf has this bad habit of scattering his food all over his table whenever he ate, because he's the only child and took for granted that his mum would clean up for him.

That day was his mum's birthday, and when we were having dinner in the living room (his parents' other guests were in the kitchen on the dining table), his food scattered around the floor. I didn't feel good making his mum come and clean, so I went to clean up for him and advised him to eat properly. Apparently, his parents heard and didn't like it. Likewise when he took the food for me because it was the first time I was at his place, his parents didn't like it as they said I should be the one serving him and not the other way round.

When dinner ended, I helped to wash the dishes. My bf washed the dishes very carelessly, there were still traces of detergent on the plates. I am not a clean freak, but people do eat from the plates, so I took the plates and rinsed them properly again. His parents saw that and was not happy. When I left, they complained to my bf that how come I'm telling him what to do, that I'm controlling him? And they kicked up a fuss about him seeing me home by train (I live in Kembangan and he lives in Bedok). They said why must I make him see me home? He said it was late at night and he didn't want me to go home on my own.

The first Christmas I spent at his place, he had a female Chinese friend (whom I know slightly) who came to visit. His parents were so nice to her, and behaved so warmly towards her, whereas whenever I went over, they either ignored me or just hid in their room. They never bothered cooking for me or buying food for me, even though when I go over, I always make it a point to bring something.

This female friend also just started chatting with his parents, totally ignoring me. My bf's mother even said she has cooked for her her favourite dish, and even offered to ask her to bring back the dish! She had never even extended that kind of hospitality to me! And then the female friend said she wanted to take a photo with his parents, so the mother asked me to take a family portrait for them (my bf, the female friend and the parents), and once that was over, they didn't even bother asking me to take photos with them! Furthermore, I gave his dad a bottle of Chilean red wine and his mum a LV handbag for Christmas, but they toss it aside without even looking at them, whereas the small Christmas decos the female friend gave them, they were raving and showing it off to everyone.

I had never felt so insulted in my life before! After that I just went to my bf's room and stayed there the rest of the day. When I left that day, sure enough, the parents just ignored me and didn't offer me any food to bring home whatsoever. Just for information that this female friend had no relationship or crush on my bf whatsoever, she herself had a bf then and was about to get married. She only know his family from church and invited he and his parents to her wedding (without me), so I don't think she was actually going after my bf, yet I don't understand why his parents treated her the way they did.

Early this year, we decided to get married. His parents kicked up a very big fuss. We actually booked the church for 101112 (10 November 2012), which I thought its such a beautiful date! Even my parents (who have always been very nice and kind to my bf) thought its such a perfect date.

Then my bf's parents used emotional blackmail, say if we get married, they will not be involved, don't tell them, don't invite any of his side, they don't want to acknowledge or recognise the marriage. So my bf postponed the date to 2013, and got my mum so pissed. I am 33 this year and my bf is 37, so to my parents, they feel I should not drag on if I want to get married. If I am to get married in 2012, I will already be 34, let alone in 2013 where I will be 35, and then when can we have kids? We thought of having at least 2 - 3 kids.

But now his parents said even if we have kids they will not want to acknowledge. So be it, then all the more better for me so my parents can take care. But now the housing issue is another problem. Seems that because my bf is the only child, and his current flat is 8 years old, he actually bought the flat together with his parents, which means he is already an owner of a hdb flat.

So we can't apply for a flat together. I can't apply for a flat on my own due to my age, and I can't apply with my parents as well as they already own a property. Besides, even if I can somehow own a flat with my parents, my bf can't be an occupier as HDB rules is that he can't be an owner of one flat and occupier of another. If only we can have a private apartment, but both of us are not high-fliers and don't earn as much as some people. Maybe in another few years it is possible to own a private property but not at this point in time.

My parents asked me to rent, but what's the use of renting if I can't own it? Besides if we can afford to pay for rental, may as well save up the money so we can quickly settle his existing flat and get our own flat fast.

So the only alternative is to move in with him and his parents after marriage. Up to now, his parents still totally ignore me and refuse to have anything to do with me. They even call my bf when we were out late once, saying they will go to my place and wait there to pick him up if he was still not back, and my bf had to spend 10 minutes convincing them that he was not at my place.

And now they say, if I move in, they will sell the place and move out, don't care about us. They don't want me to move in and control their lives. I am moving in without a "status" as in I don't own the property nor anything in the house. Yet for my bf's sake, I am still willing to do this. I am the one losing out more and more worried about them controlling me, yet they can say things like that?

And now they said if can postpone the wedding 1 year, why not another 1 - 2 more years? My bf said he can't keep dragging me on as well, to which his parents said if I'm so desperate to get married and can't wait, then may as well I go find someone else who can marry me immediately!

My bf has been sheltered by his parents all his life. For someone of this age, he does not have any insurance whatsoever, and his passport and chequebook is kept by his parents. So it is difficult to even write a cheque or go overseas because he has to go through his parents first. And they help themselves to his ATM card anytime they like so sometimes they withdraw everything out from his account.

I encouraged him to set aside some as savings and insurance, and even recommended him my good friend who is an insurance agent. My bf bought his first policy, but when his parents found out, they hit the roof. They made an appointment with my friend the agent and told him that he is cancelling the policy. My bf had already paid a year's premium for this, and there was a big hassle to get the refund because his parents were so adamant. We tried convincing his parents that the policy is good in the long run, but they refused to listen, and even said that they and their son had made a pact (when he was 16) that they will decide all financial matters together. It was rather embarrassing for all of us, for my friend and I.

Hence they say if I am really a good girl, why do I care about my career and want to progress in life, instead of being a homebody and serve the husband and in-laws? Why do I have an opinion instead of listening to what my bf says? Why do I make him spend unnecessary money? But they are not with us all the time, how do they know I don't listen to him? Besides all the things we do is because we happen to have the same interests and he wants to do, so I am not the one who "coerce" him into doing anything! They even said I am buying for time, and once I found someone better, will sure dump him! If I am really buying for time, then what for I start anything? I am no longer at the age where I can just "play" and waste people's time and my own time like that.

I have a law degree but gave up practice, and now working in-house. I am studying part-time for my Masters in Arts. I live in a landed property and know how to play the piano, organ, recorder and learnt how to play the violin, flute and cello. I write short stories in my free time and I sing. I can cook and bake. I grow up on fine dining and travelling around the world.

My bf failed his A levels and he had recently gotten his part-time bachelor's degree from SIM. He is working in a govt stat board and has been there for 10 years. He has never been promoted and been drawing the same salary for the past 10 years. He can't drive, can't afford much fine dining and the only places he has been to are various cities in Malaysia. We have never gone travelling together. From his income, half goes to his parents, so we are a bit tighter than many other couples.

I am not trying to show off, but just to have a background of where both of us come from. I feel despite everything, I am still willing to be with him, yet his parents are doing this to me. If I have a son who finds a girl who is "better" than him, I will rejoice and treat the girl so well cos I will be so grateful she even wants to be with my son in the first place!

So now I really don't know what to do. I seem to be stuck everywhere. If I get married, then I foresee a very miserable life in the future because my bf is one who likes to please everyone and avoids conflicts as much as possible. But if I don't get married or wait, then what is the use of dragging on?

I am really really confused now on what to do! Hopefully some of you BTB or married people can give their insights to this. Sorry for raving on and thank you so much for "listening".
 


hi im new here also... read about your probs... cheer up, i think most ladies cannot get along with the in-laws. just use your sincerity to move them. dun give up. work together with your htb, show them you really love him, support him..
now i think they feel your htb is scared of you and under your control..
therefore infront of them show your love to him, sit often in the living room, dun hide.
feed him, get him drinks, cook for everyone, wash his clothes, hang clothes, do their housework, show them you are a good girl.
i guess this is what in-laws want for their son's wife, to take care of their son, and take care of them.
just be as tradition as you can and seriously smile often.
this is my personal opinion, no offence though...
thanks
 
Hey babe,

My suggestion was to leave the guy, a guy cannot protect you when he is a mummy boy. When a guy is ready for a marriage is when he left his mum and dad, take care of you emotionally and financially.
I really feel for you and i can say that you will be very very miserable in the future. I dun think this man can give you much happiness. You definitely deserve someone much better. If a woman have to go through miserable life when get married, might as well stay single n be happy. Let go of the man who can't even decide his own life and happiness. I wonder what the parents has been learning from the catholic church. Gracious!! Im sorry to hear your story, i hope you will leave him and find happiness. Move on
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Hi Cookie,

Would you like to first speak to your parish priest about your problem? Have you already signed up for Engaged Encounter or Marriage Preparation Course?

I would suggest that you just attend the earliest one possible before proceeding with any other plans. To be honest, on reading your account, it sounds like you're headed for disaster... especially your boyfriend who doesn't seem to know how to take care of himself, let alone take care of you. The fact that he is so dependent on his parents, and doesn't make a stand for himself. Are you sure this is the guy you really want to marry?

Read the letter of St Paul to the Ephesians 5:21-31
http://www.usccb.org/bible/ephesians/5

Don't misconstrue the "subordinate" part, because it is the part about "love" from the husband that is greater. In the last line, in the end the Man is the one who leaves his parents to be with his wife. That means that he starts a new household altogether. Your husband should become the head of the household, NOT his parents. You might want to ask your priest to explain what this means in further detail to you and your boyfriend.

You seem like a truly capable and independent woman, so I'm not sure if you really want to play nanny to a 37-year old man. I'm guessing that a part of you is unwilling to give up this relationship out of pride - just to prove his parents wrong. I mean, I would probably have felt the same way too...

Take care!
 
Thanks, all, for your advise. I have been so confused lately. My age is against me. There have been men who said they don't mind dating me, but they prefer a younger girl, someone who is below 30. What can I say?

We have actually attended the Engaged Encounter weekend last year. The thing was that, during the EE, everything was good. We talked about what we need to do and intend to do, he made promises and swore he would improve the relations between his parents and me. But up to now, more than a year after we have attended the EE, nothing has been done, and things are getting worst.

So I am still in the decision-making stage. I can ignore whatever his parents say and do right now, but how long more can this go on? On the other hand, if I break up now, I am not sure if I can even find another guy whom I can get along with and who can tolerate my quirks, since the guys I know all prefer someone younger. Afterall, what can I offer a man now that any 20-something sweet young things can't?
 
Hi Cookie

EE is a point of awareness, and since you've already attended that, the two of you have already identified the problems and discussed the solutions.

But it cannot be just NATO (no action talk only). It has been a year, and nothing has been done... then no amount of attending EE or even marriage will help improve this, unless he does something about it.

Please do not worry about being single... because getting yourself into a life of worries and feelings of anger day in and out is not going to do you any good at all. Peace be with you.
 
If your husband/bf still doesn't do anything about your emotional sufferings being with the mil, I think it's time for you to think for youself. Don't you just feel like your husband and mil are on the same side, whereas you are on the opposite side of theirs when all of you should be together instead?

If this continues, I would tell my bf/husband. "I feel ugly and uncomfortable with all the problems that your mil gives me and I wouldn't feel happy seeing them even again if you don't do something abuot it. If you choose to be a mummy boy and not salvage the problem that your mother has with me, then I'm sorry, I have to leave because this is definitely beyond my control".

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I feel the pain you have. because my bf is somehow a mummmy boy too. his mom loves him so much that she cares every single thing in his life.
 
Cookie and Eunice,
I guess I'm better off even tho my hubby is also a mummy boy but at least his mum thinks the same as me at times.

Perhaps a little bit of explanation would helps, its not that you dun like it that's y ask him not to do it but its for his own good. I guess sometimes we gotta think like a mum.

N cookie maybe its bcos that you are too gd thats why the parents will be afraid that you will hurt their little flower(Son).
If you reli wanna be with him maybe you can go to the same church together with the family and show the other church frens that your r a worthy DIL.

otherwise maybe you would like to leave him ASAP.
 
Used to have a bf that was from a very different educational background. Needless to say it was difficult to maintain as our expectations in life, requirements were vastly different. This was something beyond just love can bridge. There needed to be a lot of compromises and well, it did not last. My bf told me "You are just too good for me" when we were already looking at marriage. Wasted my best years on this relationship. Made me realize sometimes beyond love, looking for a companion, compatibility in terms of your needs & wants in life is very important. Else you will only find yourself drifting apart. I believe that to love someone is a choice.
If he chose to love you, he should be aware and place priority on your needs & wants.
 
hey Cookie.. I think there's something wrong with his parent -.- but frankly speaking.. since the case.. you should reconsider whether he is the guy for you or not. I've been married for 2 years and frankly speaking, marriage wasn't about 2 of us only. Altho my PIL are not as bad as his parent but my MIL loves to interfere with whatever we are doing and I'm like under CCTV 24/7.( we are currently staying with them now as our flat is still building in progress).

Altho my background is not as fantastic as yours.. but my mum came from a good family and she teaches me virtues and everything and ask me to bear with watever I can because it doesn't pay to be bad to people... we should treat people good even if they are bad to us.. my hubby and me are all graduates but his parent are loud..rude.. etc.. I thought that I can bear with it (and yes I am still bearing with it).. things worsen after we had our first kid.. my MIL just treats me like an idiot who doesn't know anything and keeps complaining to my hubby that my baby very poor thing coz I didn't force her to eat after she doesnt want it (wat the hell?)

Anyway.. I just felt unhappy everyday when I am facing them.. can't wait for us to move out soon -.- altho i know my MIL will still be shadowing us. I felt like they are the parent of my child and I am the maid.

Anyway.. if one day you were to get married with your current BF... I'm sure that your relationship with your PIL will be more strained.. given their attitude now.. you can't possibly ask your hubby or you not to visit them or see them anymore.. it is not right.. right?

If the relationship didn't get better. then I guess you really have to reconsider..

My hubby knows how hateful is his parent but he doesn't appeal to my complains too.. its his parent? what can he do? So don't pin hopes that your BF will help you.. never will!
 

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