Matters Of The Ball (Word Cup 2010)


denise80 (denise80)
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lol anyway everybody's posting at this hour...because of football?
Sidetrack a bit...damn pissed...England's not performing at all...the only right thing they did was to have Robert Green replaced. Wonder why many underdogs in this World Cup are performing too. No wonder the ball is round!


vios (vios)
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btw, England sucks. Argentina (and the retired Batistuta) rocks.


denise80 (denise80)
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lol..yea...my bet is on Argentina! Maradona rocks!


MiLo On e RoCkS (miloice)
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Vios, my bad. Thanks for highlighting. And yes, England is totally disappointing. Stay up duno for what.


vios (vios)
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so far, betted on one game and lost - that blardy kelong Spain. hahaha... a "rounded" world cup, indeed... think will cease betting until the knock-out stages.

denise80 (denise80)
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Spain played Torres too late in that Losing match. Wonder y. Germany vs Serbia - worst match of all. Referee too strict I feel. Watching match now. Most elated to see ghanna triumph over aus.


vios (vios)
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Spain was playing-a-fool lah... too confident liao, was like toying with the Swiss players.. but i think they will win the next two games. they have to...

never like Germany, so i was glad that the underdogs beat them... and the most kelong ref disallowed united states' third goal last night....

you don't like aus? shouldn't be a red card nor a penalty btw.. cos the ball hit kewell's chest first... of course, it happened too fast for the ref... anyway, i expect ghana to score one or two more. those punters betting +1.5 on aus should be sweating liao. heh....
 
denise80

i love Maradona the player, not Maradona the 'drama-mama' manager.... hehe.

don't know if you rem last world cup that he played in (1994).... Argentina got knocked out the moment he was evicted of drug abuse. what a freaking pity.

Anyway, this current squad is pretty good... with the likes of Messi and Tevez.
 
Ya. I feel aus r not as gd as ghanna. They were pretty rough in the 1st half. Btw, the Usa match, thought there was a goal! Y the referee blew the whistle?? No offside plus even if there's a foul, usa was at the disadvantage.
 
Ya. I like Messi. He resembles the Maradona then. I dun mind him as the coach cos he's animated to watch hehe
 
the third goal by USA should stand... the ref was taking note of the shoving and pulling in the box, hence blew the whistle against USA

watched the replay but Nothing was worthy of a foul... USA was robbed of an amazing comeback against Slovenia..

Ghana 1 Australia 1! Ghana didn't manage to capitalise on the opportunities... haha.
 
ya lor, he super entertainingly clown-ish... buay tahan..

messi has been brilliant with his club, barcelona but just merely good on international level. still waiting for him to sparkle on this big stage leh
 
MiLo On e RoCkS (miloice)
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Lots of red cards this world cup. And 2 times with the most deliberate handballs. Best part germany miss the penalty!
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yeah, 3 or 4 red cards liao?
serbia (vidic and the other central defender) lor.
i laughed hard when germany missed the spotkick...

don't bother about england, bro. they are not even kelong, simply lousy as a collective unit.
 
Don't know why England's always disappointing at World Cups. Yup, they are just lousy when as a collective unit somehow.

Sigh...why brazil matches always late at night..need to work next day!
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Ok...prediction for the day:

1. Slovakia vs Paraguay - Paraguay to win!
2. Italy vs New Zealand - Italy!
3. Brazil vs Ivory Coast - Brazil!
 
France is as good as eliminated already.

They must beat South Africa by at least 3 clear goals and then hope that Uruguay can beat Mexico by at least two.

Extremely difficult.

French coach Raymond Domenech is also quite a clown.
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Anelka has been sent home from world cup after he scolded the coach jialat jialat and refused to apologise, during half-time in the match against Mexico. No wonder France went on to concede two goals in 2nd half.
 
Get England a potty shaped like world cup and let them bring home will do lah.
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They played very well during the world cup qualifiers though. It could be the expectation that caused them to underperform in world cup.

But I must agree they are playing really badly in the first two matches. I stayed up to watch the match against Algeria. Wasted my time.
 
Watching Paraguay vs Slovakia now. Must say that Paraguay has v gd ball handling & passing skills! Hope nothing goes wrong and they'll win!
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England is rubbish. France is crap. A lot of ppl lost $$$, bookies are the happiest of the lot.

Don't bother to watch England in WC action ever again, I learnt my lesson after the 1990 WC when they went all the way to the semis and lost on PK. From then onwards crap all the way.

I have not even watched a single 'live' match of this WC since day 1...dunno why, passion seems to be dead.
 
latest world cup shock gotta be the Italians drawing with the Kiwis.... along with mutinying french and overpaid english, i think the men in blue and white have been very disappointing.

this world cup bad for punters, good for neutrals. denise, i hope you won predictions and money as well.

1990 WC - a certain Paul Gascoigne. Brilliant!
 
Most Big european teams are not doing that well.. with the exception of the Dutch team - well, they did not play that brilliantly but still 2 wins out of 2.

Looks like the South American teams are more impressive - even the less team of Uruguay and Paraguay. Argentina with Messi looks unstoppable. And Brazil may well not in the peak yet.

Spain is not out yet, so don't write them off. Still possible to get 2 wins and go to next round. Italy, yes none too impressive with 2 draws.. And even Germany, did not play too bad..

France will be on the way home soon. Will be possible for England to get to second round and even if they squeeze in, they won't progress much further.

I guess the ball has an impact. They suppose to make the ball more unpredictable.. so for difficult for goalkeepers and hence more goals. But mostly I see it being over-hit. You can see the passes, if it hits the ground, it will be gone. And a lot of shots much over the bar. Or it could be the altitude as well - as quite a number of mathces are played at 1000+ M above sea level.
 
vios,

Why you said bad for punters? I have been making bundles.. mostly on bets of draw.. and going for the under-dogs..
 
English are much over-rated..

Italians may not be doing well, but on a general basis, they always have the luck.. they always come from the dead or boring 1st round matches to be stronger later on.

Spain is a good team, very good passing. But they need the self-believe and the cutting edge to get the ball into the net..

Germany, don't write them off yet..
 
2b fair Keita didn't go looking for it but he reacted quickly and dishonestly to the accidental bump.

Kaka suay.

Even tho the Ivorians have reason 2b aggrieved over Fabiano's 2nd goal which was 2x handball, Keita still didn't have reason to cheat like that lah.

Sigh.
 
sm,

i speak for those who have been losing $ over reputed teams on -1.5 ball....

but it's true. it's the underdogs thus far.
 
b-boy

i think both teams were equally ugly in different ways, ie. playacting and stuffs.

coming from me, keita should win the best actor award.
 
Actually, Italians equalizer is also a very weak one. The foul is only a slight shirt pulling that goes unpunished most of the time.
 
LoL...I don't bet on soccer, vios. Just predicting for the fun of it. But if I were to bet, I'll bet on the underdogs too. 'Eat ball' better than give away at WC man!

Okay, one prediction of mine was wrong - the one on Italy which was totally unexpected.

Okay...tonight's matches' prediction:

Portugal to draw N. Korea 1-1
Chile 0 Swiss 1
Spain (torres recovered oreadi?) 1, Honduras 0
 
agree with denise on Spain. Probably another underperforming spain result.

For Swiss, I don't see them scoring really. Going for 0 goals.

For the North Koreans, its a tough one to predict. Most teams do not have match experience playing against them. But their defense if probably not the strength.
 
Gdness, 5 goals already for Portugal. Milo, u r right about the north Korea having poor defence. Goalkeeper is not up to mark.
 
wow... unexpected big-time scoreline for portugal. n.korea's defenders didn't show up tonight.

now chile vs switzerland... the red card was quite harsh.. and the chileans seemed to have more fire in the belly.
 
Stupid red card. Makes no sense. Could the referee fixing the match? Seems kelong. But credits for both matches fighting hard.
 
haha... denise's beloved did not play well, maybe still finding his touch after injury... spain could have gotten 6 or 7 goals, to be honest.

some rough predictions for tonight's games:

mexico vs uruguay - market saying a likely 0-0 or 1-1 draw but im guessing one goal to either side.
s.africa 1 france 2 - france wins after much internal conflicts but gets knocked out on goal difference
nigeria 1 s.korea 1 - nigeria to fight it out for some african pride
greece 1 argentina 1 - greece level on pts with s.korea, but loses out on head to head.

one more thing..... 1 or 2 more red cards. it's x'mas in advance!
 
- Mexico vs Uruguay will be interesting. It can go either way. I favor a 1-0 scoreline for win on either side.
- S.A vs France, I will go for high goal. Both have nothing much to play for but pride. No pressure to perform.
- Nigeria to kelong at homeground.
- Greece eat. Argentina don't even need to win this game.
 
vios,

No comment excep

greece 1 argentina 1 - I don't think argentina will draw.. They should beat Greece.

And France may beat S. Africa (not too sure).. but no, they won't be out because of goal difference. Mexico and Uruguay if you have rightly predicted - draw (very likely), France will be out even if they score 10 goals.
 
sm bro,

nope.. im guessing one-goal victory but unsure which side although the market highly flavours a draw...
 
but sm, maybe argentina only needs a draw?

they may rest key players since they already have 6 points and may top group no matter what.
 
vio,

And don't think World Cup has such a thing as head-to-head record.

It is goal difference then followed by goals scored.. if level on points..
 
vios,

The uruguay vs mexico game will be a highly kelong match.. a draw. Why they should fight when all they need to do is to put up a show and kick the ball in the middle of the field?
 
i see... then s.korea might still go through, unless the s.koreans and argentinians get thrashed by the nigerians and greeks respectively which are unlikely...
 
When a team is winning, you need to keep the momentum and the spirit.. which is what I think aregentina will do.. Of course if they are winning, they will rest key players..

But for Uruguay & Mexico.. a draw is strategic..
 
sm,

true... but if it's for avoiding Argentina in the next round, why not?

still, both side might play it safe and go for counter-attacking..
 
For teams like Uruguay & Mexico, reaching the 2nd round is their aim.

You can't avoid argentina unless they go all out for a win.. which means, they can lose and be out of the world cup..

That is what I think they will do..
 
yep they will not go all out and cheong for the opposition goal, so i'm just guessing that both sides will play cautiously until the dying moments....

a goal out of nowhere - for the legal and illegal bookies to own the last laugh again.
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Hope France goes out after the 1st round.

They don't even deserve their place in this WC in the first place.
 
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