Advise!!! Wat should I do

amelia

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Hi all,

I on the verge of thinking of separation wif mu hubbie. We both sat dwn to really discuss wat we want in life. Look like both of us have different expectations we want. He try to start up a small business seeing any potential opportunities. He is not in the wrong and I somehow not as adventurous as him and not really optimistic abt him doing. But have endured and given him 1 year to do watever without a stable job. Til now, it is still not stable as I also worry and sumtimes juz can't keep my emotions and my emotions irritates him. I know he had try his best to bring as how as he can. He hopes that I will support him no matter wat. He is rather insistent in the things he is doing and mention that main priority is wat he is doing even sacrifice mi if I stop him frm doing. I can't and nor I want to stop him as his strong belief in doing this own things. Plus I have problems wif his mum. I know he is sandwiched between us but I try to accomodate but to no avail. Or maybe I did not do very well in handling relationships wif his mum. I really do know either myself. All I hope is stable jobs from both of us so I dun have to worry for his mum side maybe juz leave forgive n forget but his mum keeps making requests I find it hard to compromise. When I say no, he tell his mum my answer, his mum could be veri extreme like not talking to him since CNY till now. He feels bad and sad abt it as he comes frm a single-parent home. All these years his mum singlehandedly brought him up. He mention he is on the end already as everytime is his mum says tis and I says tis. He had enough trying to please everyone. Should we really try for one more time for our marriage or should we really let go?? Coz tis is not the first time we try. Or am I in the wrong should I juz let go?? He says he does not want mi to be unhappy so he wishes to be separated so tat both of us can really live our own lives. But I told him I try to succumb my emotions letting to try for a few more mths on his job but he should really know the limit as to when. He told mi he dun know. Wat should I do? I have sleepless nites and really affecting my work.
 


Hi all

My ex and i have broken up for 1 year plus. Throughout we stay in contaact and have a healthy friendship. Whenever i ask him about us , he said he need to get his career on the right track.He is going overseas to study. The timing is not right for us. Once, he cried and said he do not want to lose me when i found out that he was lying. Another ocassion, he was tearing when i ask him about us.

Today, he ask me why im so nice to him and making him feel more guilty. He said im wasting my time on him as he not a good guy. Through out the 1 year plus in contact, he brought me stuff, bring me out , suprise me with things etc..

Today he keep asking what is so good about him tt is worth it. When i ask him a solution, he said leave it to fate. What is this guy thinking? What does he wants?
 
Amelia,
i think you both cannot think straight now.
Things are getting tough on your low confidence in your hubby's capability in business as well. To make things worst that further stress him up, you sandwiched him between his mom and you, which a typical guy who is not having business problems will be vexed of..let alone your guy now is having BOTH problems.

BOTH problems has 1 constant factor: you are involved.
Work: you discourage him..told him your negative opinions on how things might turn out to be (that his business is gg for the worse instead of encouraging him)

Mom: typical guys cannot stand wife to go against their mom..in your case, your MIL raised him up single handed...which makes him wana protect her further..

Frankly, you are at the losing end.

But from what i can see, your husband said "i duno" instead of "let's call it quits" >> means that he still values the marriage to a fair bit..guys are decisive creatures..once they set their mind to let go, they just let go..now in your case, i feel that there's still a beam of light.

Y dont you 2 let things cool down and stop meeting each other for time being? AFter you 2 have cooled, i believe you 2 will value each other more..also, you 2 can take in exchanged words more..

If you cant bear to live without his presence, y not just be dumb for awhile..keep things quiet and live life as it is for the time being until he voices out that he wants to have a talk?

I mean to me, other than these 2 choices, i feel no other suggestions from me liao.

Also, have you tried talking to mutual frens of both of you? Sometimes, i believe people outside the picture can see the whole scenario better and thus give constructive and non-bias advices.
 
hi hateyou and pinkcloud,

Like wat hateyou say maybe we juz together at the wrong time. We have been together for abt 10 years since schooling days, everything is ok until he popped out he want to quit his job and start out on his own. Everything turn upside dwn when I myself is not quite agree wif his views since we have a family to considered, it is too risky. I might be wrong also to oppose to wat he want to do in life. I really dun know. He says same as hateyou ex saying he is juz not fit enough to give mi happiness I want despite he still loves mi. It really hurts to know.

I think I will do wat pinkcloud advise maybe juz to keep quiet for the time being. Everytime I saw ppl commenting on problems that they faced wif their hubbie or BFs, nvr imagine it would happen to mi. Do you tink I should fully support him thruout despite my character is not tat adventurous as his ambition or should I juz let him go? He did mention tat if the business fails and he has no capital to start on then he will go find a job again.
 
hi hateyou and pinkcloud,

Like wat hateyou say maybe we juz together at the wrong time. We have been together for abt 10 years since schooling days, everything is ok until he popped out he want to quit his job and start out on his own. Everything turn upside dwn when I myself is not quite agree wif his views since we have a family to considered, it is too risky. I might be wrong also to oppose to wat he want to do in life. I really dun know. He says same as hateyou ex saying he is juz not fit enough to give mi happiness I want despite he still loves mi. It really hurts to know.

I think I will do wat pinkcloud advise maybe juz to keep quiet for the time being. Everytime I saw ppl commenting on problems that they faced wif their hubbie or BFs, nvr imagine it would happen to mi. Do you tink I should fully support him thruout despite my character is not tat adventurous as his ambition or should I juz let him go? He did mention tat if the business fails and he has no capital to start on then he will go find a job again.
 
Amelia, I can understand how u feel abt the uncertainty cos I'm facing that myself. My hb recently quit his civil service job to try out something new. It doesn't offer a fixed income, has no employment perks and no annual leave or other HR benefits. But I still supported him cos in life there is no gain if u dun risk. I know there's a chance he may not make it but why focus on that? Wouldn't it make his chances of succeeding greater if I lent my support? And that's what I choose to do. Fortunately I landed myself a better paying job so I'm still able to support him for a while if he doesn't bring home any money for the time being.

So yeah... give ur hb a reasonable amt of time to establish his biz. Maybe discuss w him an exit plan if it doesn't work out in the end. U know ur hb better. If he's not the kind to follow thru w his plans or is v fickle minded, u have to be even more patient or gently guide him along. In the meantime, can also think abt what ways u can support him, eg getting a better job, doing part time work for extra income, etc.
 
Ameila,

since he said this, "He did mention tat if the business fails and he has no capital to start on then he will go find a job again." why are you worrying about his future career? seems to me that he has already made an exit plan as wat g-gal has suggested..he will NOT go jobless..he will go find a job! i know, there are lotsa "wat ifs" from you now..wat if he din go find a job and end up without income? leave this out for the time being coz it has not happened.

just stay dumb for time being..think about it: if you were to ask him "whatz your option now? shall we part? do you stil love me" > then i feel you are inviting those harsh comments from someone very confused at this stage.

just let nature take its course..and stop showing that worried and paranoid face infront of him (even if you are)..coz you might make situation more tensed up without knowing! try to be cheerful and NORMAL..go out for meals..and talk about other stuffs EXCEPT his work now..until he mentions himself then mayb you can tell him you will give him your ful support from now onwards..but probably highlight to him on your worries.. (in a concern tone and not in those wet blanket kinda)

i feel hor, at this stage, its best you meet up with frens..you will feel better ranting to them instead of keeping it to yourself and then inevitably showed that sad face to him.


cheers!!
 
Amelia,

if your hubby only takes 1yr to get to stability from starting a business, then he's a genius-entrepreneur or he's simply very rich in the first place... If he is not either - then 1yr isn't a viable duration. where did this 1yr come from? who derived it? which businessman with proper plans allows himself only 1yr? typically it's pple who have No Idea who throw this number in the air...

If the 2 of u do not have kids and u're not very well-off - then what's the risk that u have to lose? 1yr of work is maybe 20k savings.. 2yrs of work maybe 40k, 3yrs i give u 80k savings... so what? if normal biz can be ok in 3yrs and give u 40k a year, then it should catch up in 2yrs... and thereafter - it's almost exponential...

an unsupportive risk-adverse wife is the Cancer of any entrepreneur... nothing is worse than marrying a woman who spends most of her days Killing your dreams and goals simply becos she dun have the bloody guts to have some bigger dreams of her own. If i was his buddy, i'd actually advise him to leave u. we have only 1 Life... any man can have a wife and family, but not any man can have a Wife, Family AND help build a Successful & Happy Life for them. if u just wanna be a wife and have a family, then marry an Ambitionless guy to match yours.

do take note... if he listens to u and gets a normal job and leads a life of normalcy with u - then when u reach your later years and u see frens around u having a pretty decent quality of life with holidays and cars and condos - Dun u Ever wish for the same... u decided u dun need them when u were a young wife.
 
well said, powder...

Amelia, don't ask for anything now coz for sure.. ur hubby is trying his best to make his business work.. and the rest will follow... give him more time.. leave him with his thoughts.. i'm sure he can handle much much more with a supportive wife..
 
powder

Most new business start up ended up in failure. There are statistics to prove it. So Amelia is being practical.
Nevertheless, I agreed with you. No venture no gain. Never say die until you try.


Amelia, lend him your support.

As a backup plan, make sure he doesn't over stretch his cash flow so that you will still have a roof even if business don't go as smoothly as desired.
 
hi jolin,

i know tat well, mine ended in huge debts (subjective at that time)... it was Huge becos it was either biz or regular jobs at 2-3k/mth...

well typically out of 100 biz, 90 fail... out of the 10 that are did not close, only half make money. u decide which one u are... i normally believe i'm the half that make money... if u choose to believe that u're amongst the 90, then it's that mindset that will carry u thru your life.

u can fail many biz in life, most fail 1 time and call it quits, some do it for 1yr and decided they are the 90%. All these are the doing of ourselves... no-one is to blame. our prep-work, our product, our beliefs etc... some pple fail even as employees, and they think they can suddenly be successful biz-pple. oh, did i mention that u can FAIL as an employee TOO? It is just as much a Failure to make 2k a month if u're Worth 5k. No? cos u fail to Maximise your full value, and becos of that - u sell yourself for 2k, and let the company save 3k by hiring u - Makes u a failure in my books.

there are pple who walk around with 5k salary and think they're a success story... their wives think they are a success story... their parents think they are a success story... But when i look at them and i see that they are actually worth 10k, then i think they are not successful at all.

bosses might think i'm worth 5k, my mother would be happy for me to make 5k, my wife might have been happy if i made 5k, but i never believed i was worth 4-fig salaries. since nobody believe me - i have to believe myself. and i Believe not just in thoughts, but in action. even when in negative, i still believed...

when u earn in a month, what pple take 1yr to earn... when u earn in a yr, what pple take 10yrs to earn... then u will know why u persisted in believing in your own worth... and Not in statistics.

statistic doesn't take into account the Human factor. neither does education. neither does classifieds. neither does society. those who make it are normally those who dun believe the statistics, else how else they convinced themselves to start in the first place?

of cos, If u believe in yourself - u will need a life-partner who believes in u.
 
Amelia,

Seriously i don't think u r getting the answer that u wan here. I read through your case and realised that I'm in similar situation as you.

I was with my bf since 2005 Oct. Ever since we're together, he's those kind who will venture and does not want to work for others and he only has an 'N' level cert.

Initially I can put up with his dreams of establishing his own biz and seriously he's 4 years older than me and imagine when we were together in d first place, I'm only a poly student. I worked 3 jobs and helped him whenever he has no money.

Despite having no money, he still wants to own a car and drive. Until now, things hasn't been getting better. He's in debts. Not only owe me but also owe banks becuz of his previous cars and also office rental etc.

And yet, he still don't see his problem and still took over his friend's car recently despite of his debts.

It's only until i'm pregnant that i realised that i really cannot tolerate such behaviour and i told myself i've given him enough time. From 2005 til now.

The best is to set a time frame and that if things still dont change for the better, give up. We girls jus want a stable life and we deserve one afterall.

Now i've to support my daughter alone and that throughout my pregnancy, he hasn't been able to pay a single cent for my checkups. I hope u know understand what i meant.

Give yourself a limit. If he's over that limit, let go. You're not wrong to want to have a stable life. =)
 
think it's rather Important to ascertain someone who wants to do biz to get out of the cycle, and someone who simply spends beyond his means.

faith,

your bfren may be someone with dreams, but he isn't someone with the right head - he spends beyond his means and probably uses "Biz" as an excuse...

i hope u dun confuse the issue here. seriously, there are business men, and there are foolish men... your bfren is a foolish man, more than a biz man. i hope u, and girls reading this thread realise that the only expense tat contributed to the biz is the office rental. the debts incurred from the cars - those were character flaws... Not business flaws. not seeing his problems is Not a business flaw, it is his character flaw.

basically he wore a bigger hat than his head could fit.

u want a stable life - start with a man of good character... a man of weaknesses can be an employee or a boss and still not give u a stable life.
 
Hi all,

Thxs all for ur advises! I really appreciate all comments. It gain insights in mi knowing different ppl really have different points of views. I know wat powder is trying to say, tink my hubbie thinks the same as him as well. Tis few days, I been trying to keep quiet and pretend as normal as not to let him be worried. Let us maybe cool dwn for awhile. After really thinking all tis time, I know I need to support him and I will choose to support him. I was afraid tat say will support him and DO is different. I am afraid tat I might be affected by my own emotions again and it all come round in a circle and is futile. How do I suppressed my own emotions and not show him my worries and emotions as not to affect him? Should I occupy myself in more activities? I try to release my frustrations by talking to my frens but tink my close ger frenzs also same thinking as mi and they sided wif mi and say tat my hubbie can't do tis and tat. All I want is to tell them how I feel to release my stressed up emotions juz like tat but ended up more stressed. I can't tell my family as well coz they will be worried. It is sad tat I can only tell it out here. He might make it or might not. Tink I will not mention anything till maybe his capital is close to zero and I will highlight to him, he needs a exit plan. I believe he will and stop thinking abt "wat ifs" wic is better for mi.
 
monitor his character lor... if he upgrades way before he is making money, then may not be a good thing... it's a fine line. not everyone doing biz will succeed - i agree. but those who do biz and treat themselves like big bosses wayy too early - it is a Character flaw... recognise it as a character flaw. becos i always see pple blaming something else except the person... in this case they blame the biz.
 

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