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nichie

Member
Aiya...milo...I am actually quite honest and cool with my weight but huh..the abit bah bah comment...make me conscious of it...remember not to eat too much tonight or you will need to go to gym more often...enjoy!
 


miloice

Well-Known Member
Just back from the dinner gathering. 1st question friends were asking... did i spend alot of time in the gym? Fact is no. 30 mins per session. Sometimes followed by a relaxing swim.

Exercising is good for everyone. Not only when u over eat then need to exercise. Make it to the gym 3 times weekly. Train hard and rest well after.

Go online to find out effective regimes that can give u a real challenging workout within 30 mins. I see lots of fatties in the gym walking on the treadmill religiously only to stay fat. One need to train effectively than going through the motion.

Clark, how often do you even workout?
 

clark

New Member
i workout everyday and watch my diet.

No need for gym. Jogging and walking works for me.

I do not have a tummy but no six packs. BMI is at 22.9.

Health is Wealth.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
meaning no resistance training at all. BMI doesn't take into consideration size, body mass etc. Just height vs weight.

Lots of slim fat people with perfect BMIs. Everyone's body type differs.
 

clark

New Member
what is the benefit of resistance training ?

walking will build on my bone density.

my purpose of exercising is to stay healthy and not to be attractive.

BTW, my IPPT is silver.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
BMI or Body Mass Index is based on weight alone.
Just weight.
- It makes no distinctions for age.
- It makes no distinctions for muscle mass
- it doesn't even distinguish between male and female.

most of the athletes in the peak of condition are, according to BMI standards, at risk. This is understandable because athletes are often quite muscular but BMI scoring does not allow for the percentage of muscle mass and muscle weighs 4 times heavier than fat. BMI scores render many athletes even those with very low bodyfat levels as "obese".

BMI is totally meaningless for me. At 18, eating only 1 meal a day for 6 months, it made me damn weak to achieve this BMI crap. Read more about resistance training vs traditional cardio.

Traditional cardio loses weight undiscriminatingly, this means, the weight you lose, some 25% will be from your valuable muscles. In the long run, if you only do lots of cardio, you will lack muscle mass. This explains why professional long distance runners are all skinny. Compare that to the sprinters that has explosive power in their run. They are huge.

Both have very similar fat ratio, but contrasting BMI.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
interesting that you touched on bone density... do read up more on the benefits of resistance training to bone density.

just google... lots of information available.

http://www.naturalnews.com/010528.html

after reading... tell me again if you think cardio is all you need. And resistance training is no use.

btw, I'm Pes C2 because of injuries from over running. I was getting Silver (no big deal) because of inheritery inflexibility that affected my board jump. Could not tug in my legs. Doctors can't help me either. So, the only way to compensate is increase the power to jump further.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
taken from this URL http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9927006

High-intensity resistance training, in contrast to traditional pharmacological and nutritional approaches for improving bone health in older adults, has the added benefit of influencing multiple risk factors for osteoporosis including improved strength and balance and increased muscle mass.

If you have not added resistance training to your regime, do consider. Its not just looking good.
 

sgbabydoll

Active Member
Looks like no one who have revealed their height is shorter than me haha. Quite used to it since I'm shortest among my siblings and also in my department. 95% of my friends are taller than me. As for my weight I belong to the old school of thoughts that women should have curves. I guess I can lose another 2 kgs to look better but there would go the bustline.

I am most happy with my eyes but most guys including my bf have said it's my lips, especially when i smile, is most attractive. I also like the way my legs look as they are slim, and I look good in miniskirt and hot pants.
 

clark

New Member
Milo, good article that u have provided.

resistance training is certainly of use. i guess even basic walking with some form of loading can achieve the same purpose. In my younger days, i did a lot of intensity training....and i guess in some way, it can be quite 'stressful' on the body. As we get older, it is more prudent to be a little more gentle on our body.

I believe that the BMI range should be taken as an indicator. For everyone to monitor and get some form of benchmark to access their weight in relation to their health. Still good to use despite having little distinction (not totally meaningless).

Health is wealth. Worth more than a million dollars.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
Hi Clark,

HIRT is targetted to minimize the insult to the body. With adaquate rest between each workout, it should be safe for the body.

Another interesting article that suggests that why resistance training is important.
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0265.htm

"For endurance athletes, two of the key problems associated with getting older are a gradual decline in muscle mass and a potential loss of bone density. The missing muscle makes it more difficult to run, cycle or swim powerfully, and the shrinking bones increase the likelihood of injury and osteoporosis.
Of course, running and cycling preserve leg muscle tissue, and studies have shown that running about 20 miles per week enhances bone density. Unfortunately, running has little impact on upper-body muscle mass, and scientific studies have shown that runners who log 40-75 miles per week actually may have decreased bone densities in their upper spines, shoulders and ribs, compared to sedentary individuals."


I spent many yrs training long hours in the gym with lesser progress. HIRT is truly effective. Giving me more free time lesser time commitment to each workouts.
 

simpleman

Active Member
There are always many reports of one type of training against another.

I believe in moderation

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090227080005.htm

The above for example says running May Provide More Benefits Than Resistance Training.

Then again, stronger bones is only one aspect of our health. There are many other areas.

For me, I believe in mild exercises in moderation. Nothing intensive, nothing high impact.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
hi sm,

thanks for sharing the good article.

The article doesn't really say running or resistance training is better. Rather, highlights the benefits of impact sports and running to lower limbs. It doesn't contradict with the earlier findings about the weakness about running. The benefit are most on the lower limbs and nothing for the upper body.

Also, I would like to point out common misinterpretation of HIRT. Intensive Resistance training isn't high impact. All movements are to be done strictly and slowly with every repeatition focusing on its intensity done with minimum strain. What it does is maximize the work done within the short timing and keeping the heart rate around 80% which is very similar to a running training.

If you would to pick up most fitness mags nowadays. Most will be selling HIRT over traditional forms of training.
 

kittenpie

New Member
does your type of fitness equate improved longevity and quality of life.

or is it for your vanity to build big muscles.

here is a question for you to consider.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
Exercising is for everyone. So, is resistance training. You will only bulk if you have the testosterone and right diet to grow it. Women do not naturally have the testosterone to build big muscles. No matter how hard you train, it doesn't grow much.

That is the point why I'm driving across here. We need to exercise to stay healthy. Recent studies have reported effective results with HIRT. It is not only for bodybuilders. HIRT is reported to burn much more calories than 1st perceived previously. The effect goes beyond the workout, it increases the metabolism for the next 36 hours. Hence, you continue to burn more energy beyond.

I want to share this with because it free more of your time. Each workout is only 30 mins. I'm sure we see many people walking and running hard on the treadmill without much progress. Our time is previous.

Moderation is surely needed. Have a balanced lifestyle that includes some sports and exercises.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
About vanity, who isn't vain?

But, its really beyond vanity. I enjoy bodybuilding, swimming and cycling. Just as bowling. These are the activities I enjoy. And I set goals to achieve in them.

Oh yah, bowling is one activity that surely improve the bone density of the limbs.
 

nichie

Member
Seem like you have goals for a lot of things, even for swimming and cycling? What goals are that? I love jogging and swimming but don't set any goals for it, just try to enjoy it and may be complete as many laps/distance as possible...till I sweat or can't go on...
 

susanna_low

New Member
Nic, i set my goal on swimming too. Before every swimming session, I will set a target on how many laps that I want to achieve.

The highest are 30 laps (to and fro consider 1 lap) and I will set a goal to hit 50
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nichie

Member
For me, sometime I count..sometime I just do whatever I can...sometime I just go for a dip in the water for fun...sometime I exercise because I have problem or feeling lousy...after a nice work out and sweating...I felt better..better appetite..easier to fall asleep...keke..so it all depend on the time available, my mood and company....

Tingyi

How long you take to finish 30 laps? My best result is 20 laps but never keep track of the timing, probably more than a hour...I prefer freestyle, you?
 

susanna_low

New Member
nic: I took 1 hr to swim 15 laps (to and fro per lap) so almost 2 hrs for 30 laps.
Me too, I like to ponder and think when I swim, v relaxing after the swim like doing a massage or spa...
 

erniesurn

New Member
I oso like to ask those health people if they experience this themselves.

Do you think it's good to go for runs in the evening or in the morning?

I go runs in the evening after work but the run keeps me awake all night and I can't sleep properly. Whats up with my body?

Thinking of changing my runs to the morning, but I think I'm too lazy to wake up.

Any advice?
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
ern, i read this somewhere which I agree.

The timing is not all that important. Its the frequency. One should exercise when the opportunity arises.
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If you intend to lose weight, best time for cardio is early morning without breakfast. Your body will be without insulin and all the energy burnt will not be from your sugar or carbo intake but fat burning.

I also agree that exercising keeps you awake. Its completely normal. To help you sleep, you could get an eye mask or soak yourself in the bathtub to relax. For me, switching to Korean drama will bore me to sleep. If you can wake up earlier to exercise, it would be better. But, if you can't the evenings is the only other option available.

Also, take note of your resting heart-rate. If its increased, its an indication of over training.
 

erniesurn

New Member
Milo,

Thanks for the info. My weight is okay, at 74Kg and 1.78m but would be nice if I can knock off some kilos too. Actually I wanted to start training for the stanchart marathon but not this year, maybe take part next year. So I heard from people that it takes about a year to train.

Just started my running regime a few weeks ago and it's turning my sleep into nightmare.

Maybe I should run earlier in the evening on weekdays and then maybe on weekends I can run in the morning.

I think the resting heart rate is true, can feel that at night my heart pumps harder and my body heat is to the point of feverish, maybe I should just tone down abit.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
Over training in the long run hinders progress. Its a vicious cycle, if your resting heart is increase over a long period, your sleep will be affect and your recovery is slower.

Resting is an important part of recovery from exercises. Something we overlook and take for granted from young. But, as age catches, our recovery is no longer like before. Even top footballers Giggs and Owen are also not playing regularly for 90 mins. They have all the experience and a wise manager like Fergie will know when to deploy them to good use within the limited timing.
 

pinktweet

New Member
i think 2 persons with the same height and weight can look very different in size

SM says his eldest girl is 1.65m and 54kg and she looks bah bah to him. I'm also 1.65 & 54, but people usually commented i looked thin/trim and was shock to know my actual weight .. hmm.. maybe my bone is heavy?
 

wat_are_dreamz

New Member
doll: Dun worry abt ur height. U are a petite Asian gal, v easy to find bf. Hee.

I'm 1.7m n 52kg. My wt is usually ard 50-52kg, but flunctuating abit cos i've been sick for 3 long wks, so havent been exercising. Time to pick up the momentum tis wkend. Going for a walk w my gfs. Gd to breathe some fresh air outside.
 

cococherry

New Member
pinktweet

Maybe she have baby fats thats why she look more bah bah and yr bones are heavier.
165, 54kg is alittle bahbah.
Do u have a slimmer upper body compare?
 
i'm 162cm/52kg.getting a lil tyre ard my belly.MIL feed me herbal soup every night.lol..

ern: i think evening time go running will pump your blood more such that your body and brain will not feel tired cos of the oxygen rush..
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
check out today's TNP page 4. Sg lady body building champion, Joan Liew. She is 65kg at 1.68m.

Lean and beautiful without steriods but overweight by BMI.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
jz, just gotten the call from the clinic. Everything is all clear. No problems with my kidneys and liver.
 

miloice

Well-Known Member
LOL.

In fact, doc told me I passed with flying colors and that not many have a perfectly good result.
 

albertri

New Member
@ Milo wow congrats...

I think i'm over weight I'm 1.68 and 77kg
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got a bit of side flabs also now stop running for nearly 5 months now so gaining kg
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Last time I went for check up I am still ok although doctor told me a bit on the edge already hehehe.
 

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