Wanted to buy resales flat - Anyone selling for low top up cash ####

bien

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Hi,

Anyone here got any flats to sell and ask only low cash top up. I know now no cash top up is not possible at all. But i wish to get a flat around Sengkang area cos i know that is the only little possiblity to have low cash top up. My wife stay at AMK and i stay at Tiong Bahru. Of cos we wish to stay in mature estates but base on current property hike i believe is not possible as we got our own budget too.

If anyone got any wish to sell their flat at low cash top up. Please do let me know over here.

I been looking a flat for quite sometime till now also in vain. Try HDB balloting but all the time given the queue number is bad.

Hope im lucky enough to get a flat thru here.
 


dreamymi

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Hi Bonjour,

Now property market really too good liao... Sorry to hijack ur thread.... Jus feel that we are facing the same problem... hahahah.. Wonder when can we set-up a house soon....

Anyway all the best to you and dun give up!! Jiayou to u and mi and whoever is looking for house!! hahaha
 

bien

New Member
Hi Jus Mi,

True, now the property is really too good and everywhere also asking for top up cash.. and i try quite a number times of bi-monthly balloting and Balloting till now still not even got chance to have a queue number.

I really wish i can get a house soon..

I also wish u can get a house soon too..
 

jacqaw

New Member
hi,
im on the same plight as you guys... had went for a few balloting excerise but just couldnt get a unit. it's so frustrating...went to see a MP, appeal twice at the HDB but it's simply no used. argh...ive got a 13mths old son with another baby on the way...but yet we wasnt given priority. well i guess we are left with no choice but to buy from open market but the problem is it's so ex! a mere 4 rm flat at amk is asking for at least 450k and above. how to buy?!
 

dreamymi

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Ya i agree with 2 hands up.....

at least valuation we can borrow from loan .... but cash ... where to find so much cash? after paying owner we still got to do reno buy electric appl... buy furniture and etc... u tell mi who can help us... haiz...
Govt 1 us to get married and give birth ... looking at the rate now.... it not friendly lor... haiz....
 

bien

New Member
Yup.. totally agree. Govt want us to start family soon and live near parents. I live at Tiong Bahru and my wife stay at AMK. How to live near parent in this 2 hot areas?

I seek 3 to 4 MP for help but in the also kana rejected.

Take it for example, got 354 units available during this bi-monthly balloting and each have to give 10 and only abt 300 plus get flat but over 10k ppl have applied.
I wonder if this going to carry on.. how are we all able to buy flat thru HDB. Given advise by MP or HDB is to buy resales. But given current property hike, how to buy resales?

Across whole spore, almost everyone asking for at least 20k top up cash. how are we all able to come up this cash. Even manage to save for 2 year to get this sum of money. but how abt renovation cost, furniture. tv and so on. and on top of that we need to save up for custom marriage and photo shoot cost.

I really hope we will all lucky enough to get a flat soon with not so much top up cash.

And i also hope the property hike will finish in half a year time. If not, i think we will have to wait for very long then can get flats.

Sometime really wish somebody do serious look into this matter and help us if possible.

If not, we only got one word and that is WAIT... sigh..
 

dreamymi

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Hi Bonjour,

Do u know even a 3 room flat also asking for 35K cash? But we can see that so many empty units at Sengkang and punggol but jus because chinese quota is met the empty house is resevered for other race... then we Chinese sit here or lives under the void deck lor...

Being Chinese govt say not enough birth rate... Chinese is getting lesser so they "import other Chinese", Local chinese like us dun even have a place to make our babies lor... haiz...

HOPEFully.... now i pray pray for god to let mi win toto... then putting my hope with the govt...haha
 

bien

New Member
Hi Jus Mi,

You are right. i just dont understand why we all first timer and even want to live parent but we cant. Then in the first place no need to encourage us do this and that.. What for.. in which no home, mean no family, no family mean no babies..

u are rite.. most of the empty flat is met with chinese quota so we can just have to wait and wait and wait.. till dont know when..

Govt can tell us to rent or buy resales.. Rent now is abt 1k to 1.5k hard cash per month. Where got ppl want to rent? cos if one couple can come out with 1k to 1.5k per month, then we can eat grass liao.. still want to think of babies... can think of adoption of baby perhaps can.

Even Govt say if u fail 4 times in balloting the fifth times u will have extra chance.. but problem that is only apply to Build to Order and Balloting Exercise and not those Bi-Monthly balloting.As i know number of failure in Bi-Monthly balloting is not counted as one time fail in Balloting Exercise..

sigh..

really lost of words..

Have to really pray to God..
 

jacqaw

New Member
exactly..so many pple sign up for the balloting during august..each person collect $10...it's easy money for them man! realli win win situation for the govt. im a first timer with 2 kids and guess what's my queue no? it's 2000plus! my hubby's friend who already got a hse got queue no 80 instead and she bought the unit at toa payoh..realli angry leh...dn noe what the govt is doing...super frustating ...been thinking of writting to the straits time's forum but just dn noe hw to write..sighz..
 

bien

New Member
that why i think is a win win situation for them not for us. Each pay 10 dollar and recently there is 10k plus ppl who apply. U can count how much...

I think next time i go and change my work and work for them and i believe bonus sure high.

I have seen MP from Tanjong pagar to AMK but still not able to get a good reply from HDB.

i really dont know how many times we have to keep trying.

I agree with Jacqueline how come ppl who has a flat go and apply bi monthly can get queue number 80????? what is this?

i think the failure from bi monthly balloting shall also taken note and so when we hit four failure for the bi monthly balloting, we shall get another chance.. not just on balloting and build to order.

I dont understsand why Bi-monthly balloting is not counted as one failure. if that is so. One year we got how many chance to apply for Build to Order and Balloting Exercise. If one year only got 2 chance to apply for these 2 exercise and we have fail in getting a good number. then how many years we can wait to get a flat???


People like us really have difficulty in getting a flat from HDB. Resales simply too high now and now is seller market not buyer market.

How.. someone please help us.
 

dreamymi

New Member
Ya... may someone help us.... haiz...

Maybe we should form up as a group to appeal together maybe that will work... ahhahah

We are grumpy young ppl lor....
 

okxygene

New Member
Hi all
I can echo all your thoughts here. Had been flat hunting for the last two months. Tried balloting(many times) and eventually resale. It's ridiculous how some silly sellers are asking for cash over valuation of min. $50k for a small and old unit in serangoon.

Aren't there any young couples buying resale out there?! How do pple who buy resale manage to fork out so much cash?! I feel like screaming at those sellers that not everyone who is buying a unit had benefited from the enbloc craze. This is gonna be my matrimonial home!

Now can only resort to praying hard for a unit with a reasonable seller to come by. argh!
 

jacqaw

New Member
hi all,
i understand from afew of my friends working in property line that the market will remain like this for the next 1-2 years...so what are all your plan? stay put, buy from open market or continue to wait for hdb to launch new flat and go for balloting again till you got it?
 

dreamymi

New Member
Hi Jac....

Wat can we do with the market so hot now.... for mi.. no choice have to continued looking for flats either from resale or HDB... hopefully can meet a nice n reasonable seller.. but still will ballot from HDB till i get a house.... then everything have to delay also...
 

bien

New Member
Hi Jac, Just Mi and okxygene,

I totally agree with you all.. who will be able to come up hard cash of 50k? u think all singaporean is v rich or open bank is it. If we got 50k cash, i dont think i will be looking at ur old unit at serangoon.

I mean if we all ppl stay put and stop buying resales .. i believe sooner or later they will lower down their price..

if not i just have to wait for a reasonable seller and at the sametime try balloting. Initially i wanted to try build to order but i find is bit long to wait for the flat to be ready.

i rather stay put..

honestly speaking we all can just try our luck in our balloting and hope that there is more balloting comes by..

Sigh
 

pinkie_nah

New Member
Hihi there ,
i am in the same situation .. looking at pasir ris tampines and bedok .. crazy crazy price .. tried the bi-monthly .. by the time its my turn .. all flat no more .. haiz .. i tried calling all agents .. when they hear 20K-30K cash , all say almost no chance... Now alot of 4 room already asking 400+K ... young couple like us how to afford ...
 

christineoah

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Hi gals, I'm from ERA. Maybe i can help, I grow up in AMK so I can say I'm specialist in AMK area too ;p let me know if anyone of u looking at other areas, i'll be most glad to help also & of coz i do understand yr angers & urge of looking ard for resale flats, i've been thru this too.

We can hv further discussion even for 20~30k.

MY MOBILE 97476710 - CHRISTINE ONG
MY EMAIL : [email protected]
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dreamymi

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Hi Nahinbliss,

I can strongly mirror ur words.... Mi also looking at the same area as u.... the price is crazy...crazy.. Something to share ...Please be careful when u are looking for flat in bedok... i meet a swindler in bedok .... he make the offer attractive and then refused to date OTP and etc...

Actually he just 1 2 cheat ur money... he would ask for 2.5K - 3K.....u 1 more details... pls PM mi...
 

bien

New Member
I do not wish to spend so much on 20 to 30k on resales.. i am bit shock ppl around sengkang also asking abt 20 to 30k top up hard cash.

thus i will rather wait till 1 to 2 years later till the property hike bit cool down.. cos i believe by that time shall be able to get a resales at Sengkang around 5 to 10k top up cash..
 

pinkie_nah

New Member
Hi Jus Mi.... Can Pm me more details ?

Anyway i got this offer for exec apt in pasir ris .. top up abt 10-15K ...but on second floor .. anyone inetrested can let me know .. cos i dun wan 2nd level ...but i can pm you details
 

jacqaw

New Member
hi all,
thanks for the response. the thing is how long do we have to wait? im so sick of waiting and goin from unit to unit to view..it's such a waste of time.Recently i just view this unit at amk ave 4 where the unit is so old and run dwn,with holes on the floor, built in 1982, v is about 340k yet the owner is looking at at least 450k. *faint* the only good thing abt the unit is it's on the 16floor. other than that...i realli got no idea who will want to buy the unit.
 

l3x

New Member
I guess we all are facing the same problem. Newly-wed couples wif no huge 'reserve' to fall back on. Damn frustrating too.

I tink the one and only solution for us is to wait or buy smaller flat like 3RM from HDB but aso have condition (household income cant exceed 3000).

Unless ur rich, tat is to say u have 30-40k to pay for the COV and 30-40k for reno n furnitures. Den can put ursel on the board, else wait for all the carrots to be chopped 1st.

Sometimes, I feel tat does the carrot buyers contribute to this problem? Haiz..
 

krisjon

New Member
hi all,

Agree with you all that the resale market houses now are "untouchable".

I am looking for a flat in Bedok or Tampines cos my baby is coming 1 yr old soon and over here in our in laws place is relatively crampy. Went for a few viewings and ppl are asking sky rocket high COV like 68k cash? madness...moreover the house is a 4S type and not done up, mid flr.

We also tried with HDB a few times and all they say is try ur luck in balloting. Really horrible.. I was quite piss y only Bi monthly sales got no priority scheme offered like balloting exercise and BTO.

I think the root of the problem come from those enblock home buyer... cos the stupid developer enblock their home and then ppl might down grade to HDB and then those carrot chopper started to offer HI HI price, trying to get a slice of cake out from this opportunity.
 

l3x

New Member
I wonder wat would happen if all the potential buyers out tere agreed together not to pay any COV. Would it bring down the price?
Ha.. Dun tink its possible.
 

superrazorblade

New Member
I agree that the resale houses now is really expensive. I think I have viewed at least 20 flats without success. Everyone is asking for sky high COV. I have offered 45k COV for certain flats that I really like but the owner is looking for at least 80k.....
 

krisjon

New Member
Wah blade, u can really fork out so much cash! For us, I think 10K already a bit of issue and concern liao.
 

bien

New Member
I think we just have to wait for the property hike to go down and at the same time keep on trying balloting.
 

pimples_gal

New Member
Hi all, i wonder have you all consider the consequences of buying a 30 yrs old resale flat? Most flats in AMK are about 30 yrs old and what will happen to the valuation of these flat at 60 yrs old and you are also at the age of 60?

I bought a resale flat in AMK too.. and quite regret lor..
 

pinkie_nah

New Member
hihi .. gd news ... have been viewing flat this few day .. and realise that the market is softer already .. saw one flat at tampines 4 room beautifully renovated high floor and the price asking is val + 25K jus that it is near expressway..haiz ... parents particular.. i think so far like ok .. been asking ard .. of cos got those asking 50 K but realise that this week like mostly say negotiable already .. hehe .. by the way i jus got letter from hdb saying got left over flat at punggol but onli 3 room somemore mainly no chinese quota and low low level only .. arggggg!!!!
 

bien

New Member
Im glad that is finally slowly get better with the resales.. if not if the hike still not going down.. think we have to wait even longer to get a resales flat.

Sometime is hard to please everyone.. if we can we also want to get a new flat at AMK or any area near parent but we have to see our budget also..if the new house/resales cost 350k and more we also cant affort cos in the end every month we have to fork up few hundreds and worst our CPF use up till very dry..

sigh.. hope property hike drop faster
 

l3x

New Member
Iggymummy (krisjon),

I agreed wif u. 10k is alot of an issue liao. Wait lol. Cant afford to fork out so much mney.

Hope e price will come down aft sometime, it cant always be rising right? Ha.. Lets cross our fingers together.
 

krisjon

New Member
Nahinbliss, really? Thats good news u know? But I do hope prices drop further and best COV is from 0 to 5K.

L3x, I mean, even if we had 10K cash in hand and use it as COV, we will have lesser money to do other things like furnitures and reno etc. So 10K is a concern too... How many mths do we have to slave for others to get 10K? Hiaz... Dun think the price will keep on rising for COV. But for the valuation , it is hard to go down. Dun forget, everything is control by g********t
 

skywolf

New Member
The other time my colleague was pondering on getting a unit in Tamp also... and then the US housing mkt drop and caused the STI to drop, guess who were the most happy abt it?

Both my colleague and myself. Haha! Bad I know, but then... haiz..
 

bien

New Member
Hi All,

I do agree with u all. 10k maybe to other ppl is nothing but to normal ppl like us we need how long to save in order to reach 10k.

Is not easy to get a flat nowsaday. I do agree with Lggyummy that is better to have COV drop to 0 to 5k..

together let pray we can get a flat soon..

Btw, i heard AMk is building new flats soon. Heard is from 350k to 400K plus. Anyone got any idea got any flat from this range of flats sell between 300k. cos if 350k plus and above i have to fork up every month few hundreds thus i think is not advisable if the cost per flat for the future flats at AMK is 350k and above.

Sigh.. hope HDB build more flats and so we can have more chance to ballot.
 

dreamymi

New Member
Hi all,

Even if they start to build flats we can only get to ballot in 2012(i guess) how much time do we have now? Praying for next monday mooncake draw.... hahahha I just hope that H** can relased those flats that is for the other race so that we can get a house lor...

PRAYING HARD NOW!!
 

krisjon

New Member
HI Skywolf!

Jus MI, me pray to the moon (whoever is up there) let me strike TOTO. Lolz... then i dun buy HDB liao. Buy EC as lifetime house.
 

babyleen

New Member
hi, just like to share my experience... i was in this predicament many years ago.

just want to know if anyone try the following method before?

1st) call HDB up.
2nd) explain your situation.
3rd) ask them whether there are any left over flats or walk-in-selection type? these are flats mainly are left overs or owners cancel their bookings after being allocated.

and a word of advice..

if you are getting those left over flats, you should very well be prepared to accept:
- its a left over flat, ppl dun want it
- it could be at lower level
- it may not hv the ideal ventilation
- it may not provide privacy or quietness, eg. it could be next to the lift, staircase, schools, rubbish dump etc.
- it may be of odd design
- it may not be near either of your parents or any relatives' hse
- it may not hv conveniences, eg. near your workplace, near mrt, near bus-stops, near interchange, near mkt etc. (trust me, these places ask for cash from S$12K for 3rm to S$60k for point blk 5rm!!!)
- it may be a smaller flat unit due to your current budget, eg. why not consider a 3rm flat 1st and you only need small amt of renovation loan or try the HDB smaller flat exercise 1st. and 3-5 years down the road, when you guz hv enough savings, you can move to a bigger unit.

and 1 more advice, whenever HDB come out with the balloting exercise or whatever exercise, just apply 1st on the very 1st day at the very 1st moment once the online or whatever way they open for the application first whether you want or not.

this will ensure that you get a gd queue number. do not go hm and think that you will do research abt the areas 1st den decide want to apply or not coz by that time it could be too late. and if subsequently you dun want, it will not affect anyone coz you will not go to HDB and the number after you will still benefit from your cancellation.

i was left with no choice the other time and had to take a 3rm unit with $12k cash top up. we treat it as upfront cash for renovation coz the unit was well renovated and upkeep by the previous owner. due to this reason, we only do painting (by my hb, brother, sister and me) and wash the whole hse only (lucky my mum, brother, sister and father-in-law help out). and we juz go buy the vy basic necessary furniture and household items, eg. sofa, tv console, bed, wardrobe, cheap foldable tables, washing machine to use first. we start to add subsequent items when we hv a bigger budget as days goes by. fridge and tv were a gift from my sister-in-law and my mum.

good luck to all of you.
 

dreamymi

New Member
hI Babyleen,

Thanks for your advise...Mi and SO is actually trying ur method but ....even a 3 room flat COV is also 30K.... haiz... and the place is old n need revo lor...Haiz... that y most of the forumer here is upset... hahah

Iggymummy, i also 1 2 strike toto lor... but how ez can it be...hahahaha
 

smurfying

New Member
Hi babyleen, if we were to apply for 3rm fr HDB, there's a gross income cap of 3k. Many of us would hav exceeded if both husband and wife are working.

2nd, does that make a diff to apply on 1st day as the current system supports only balloting. Those who submitted later could get a better Q no. than those who applied on 1st day.

Yes I agree with you to go for a small 3rm if resale is the option. it's much more affordable.
 

finni

New Member
Hi Smurfying.....
My situation is the same as u, onli wan a 3rm but due to the gross income cap.

Resale 3rm, is old & need to renov + COV.. is also not cheap.

Sort of, also jam in behind.
 

smurfying

New Member
Hi finni, actually we prefer a old 3rm cos usually they're bigger than the new 60sqm 3rm fr HDB. We previously managed to ballot a new 3rm, it was tiny, but anyway we had to give up cos of the income ceiling too.
 

l3x

New Member
Btw, it does not guarantee a good queue no even if u apply on the 1st day. I applied on the 1st day for Sector A, got 1900+/2000+

Personally, I feel tat if ur really not interested in the balloting ex. Dun apply.
1. Dun let them earn so much through the balloting.
2. Might affect those who r really in need of the flat the good queue no, although u duno how it will affect(who knows how their balloting system allocate the queue no.).

Iggymummy, JusMi,
I'm aso looking upon tis coming TOTO. Jus hope can strike the windfall. Ha..
 

dreamymi

New Member
Ya i agree.... the ceiling income of 3K is very hard for us to ballot also... 2 person working specially in the late twenties sure at least 1.5K per person so 3K is hit liao....Therefore old ppl also say
we can either be very rich or very poor.... ppl like us govt dun care lor...
 

finni

New Member
dreamymi & smurfying ,

Anyway, i hope next year is better.
I intend to buy next year......
So currently is monitoring the price lo
 

l3x

New Member
Actually, aso came cross my mind to get 3rm from HDB but cos of the income cap.

Too cheap, govt dun give us buy. Too exp, cant afford to buy. Jammed ah..

I tink even if we wait, still will have the same prob next yr. Cos still many potential buyers on the waiting list.
I tink the only way out:
-Seller in surplus,
-Potential buyer reduced,

else seemed really hard for the price to come down. Any other diff perspective, anybody?
 

babyleen

New Member
hi, i belive the balloting system is 1st come 1st serve and also depend on the area. if you talk abt the hot areas, of coz, during the 1st day, there will be many ppl applying for it.

and also if you can't get a 3rm from HDB due to ceiling cap, get it from open mkt. look for a agent and tell him/her what you want and hw much budget you hv and that look for a unit that require minimum renovation so that you will not be burden with heavy loans. the agent will try his/her best to look for you if they want to earn your commission.

the govt encourages us to stay WITH our parents, not near them. near them is boh bian if our parents' hse is too small and already too many ppl living there.

bargain your ways with the owner when you visit their unit and let them think it over. do not agree anything on the spot unless they are willing to give in to your budget or 0 cash top-up. but if they hv renovated their hse, they are bound to ask for some cash, so hv to be prepared. and maybe you can loan from banks on personal loan basis, or from relatives. call the different banks up and check with them if they hv such loans, what are the interest rate, hw many years of repayment and how much to pay per month, and of coz their requirements.

if you are able to hv an income above S$3k for both, a calculation will help.

eg. base on the lowest income, say S$1,200, x 6times of salary = S$7,200 loan

may hv to top up with your savings abit in this case if ppl asking for S$12k - S$16k cash for a 3rm flat. and also you guz can borrow from a few banks but do keep in mind how much you can afford to pay back per month base on your income. ask the bank personnels to calculate for you.

but do remember, this amt is for a renovated unit that is at matured estate central area. if you want a lower cash topup, can go for more ulu areas. last time, at tampines end, the owner will to forgo S$5k cash for a 5rm unit! but i decline the unit coz the previous owner had the wall of MBR and bedrm1 knock down to become a very big MBR which i dun want.

let's say S$7.2k x 25%per annum (im using a high interest rate so that we can hv abit of buffer here) = S$9,000

if 3 years repayment period = S$9,000 / 3 years (36mths) = S$250 per month

you guz shld be able to make the loan repayment.

S$9k is a decent amt that can also do a simple reno for a 3rm flat already.

and also remmebr, these type of flats can bargain for lower cash or 0 cash:
- no lift, must walk up if its those 4sty old flat
- at lower flr
- no facilities within 2km
- abit far out places

places with higher cash:
- mature estate
- blks with facilities

prices of flat are quite stable in Spore i shld say. those great fluctation in prices are those condos, pte hses. those hdb units that sell exceptionally high prices are only a few cases, less than 5 in 10 years? coz i dun find that alot.
and its these houses prices that are reported in the newspaper and give ppl an impression that all flats or most flats can fetch that kind of price.

so the prices are not that far fetch. btw, hdb dun really earn that much from our S$10 lah. juz imagine they hv to cum out outfront loans, cash etc. to build the flats, do landscaping etc first and we are repaying slowly to them, say from 10years to 25years (normal for us unless we are rich where we can pay within 3years!)

we are considered vy lucky that the govt think and plan for us. make employers give cpf to us, make us contribute cpf if we are working and allow us to pay mthly after we so-called 'bought' a flat.

in HK, the average ppl hv to hold 2 jobs in order to pay for housing. and if let's say the unit cost $200k, they hv to pay everything in full in cash, no instalment. and they dun hv cpf for to fall on also.

and also in order to minimize all spendings, hv less loans, buy what you need only, don't buy a car and drive.

less loans include those hire-purchase, instalment type also which apply to furniture and electrical household. trust me, me and hb were extremely frugal during those years and try to save as hard as possible.
 

smurfying

New Member
Babyleen, we balloted for Jln Membina during the last day application, we got a Q no. of 700, while most of our frens balloted during the 1st few days, their Q nos are 4 digits. So I believe in balloting, we're talking about pure luck.

Personally i'm not one who will loan fr banks to pay for COV. Cos we never noe when we'll lose our jobs. Touch wood if one day happens, we'll hav difficulty financing the loan.
 

popfnn

New Member
Hi Everyone!

Stumbled upon this tread by accident. After reading all your posts, really sympathize with everyone here. Personally, I went through the same anguish and anxiety of trying to get a matrimonial home like all of you here.

Parents staying @ Bukit Purmei but the resales there are ridiculously priced. However, there seems to have endless stream of buyers as all the units put on sale were snapped up in couple of days!

After much searching, finally managed to find a 4-room resale unit @ Telok Blangah Rise at a resonable COV of 6k. However, after accounting for agent fee and etc etc fees, the money spent on buying the flat is already closed to 10k. Currently, we are renovating the house. Reno + furniture we already spent close to 50k liao. So all in all, approx. 60k out of the pockets. And mind you, this is only for the house! Really bleeding profusely. Luckily, we have already taken our photos and the arrangements for the customary weddings/banquet were settled prior to buying the house.

So, in summary, me and my wife are starting on a new phase of our life with all our savings practically wiped out. Sometimes I wonder, if Singapore is getting so expensive to raise a family in, what awaits my children? Its scary...
 


pinkie_nah

New Member
Iggymummy ,

rather confuse about good news or not .. received the letter from the march BTO .. my queue number was 2000+ so now allocated queue mumber ...

Total got 53 unit available .. 38 is 3 room and onli 15 unit is 4 room .. out of this statistic only ONE is 4 room unit eligible for chinese .. Somemore 3rd floor .. so now almost nothing to choose .. Called Hdb . they say like that consider successful attempt le ... Meaning that i wun have more chance in future .. arggg ... Its so unfair ...

Haiz .. back to resale ... i need some advice ... can ppl out there help ... with the current salary , cpf probably can cover either 4room or ea .. the 4 room i saw has small master bedroom so wall had been hacked to sacrifice a bigger bedroom .. so now only got 1 spare room .. my main concern is in future (2-3yrs time )i have children and my MIL come over permanently to stay there prolly wun be enough room as the spare room is rather small .. should i get a 4 room and upgrade later or should i buy a EA now ? cos now price rather high yet scare in future with the IR or anything cant afford to upgrade ... how ....haiz....
 

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