Qns for the professionals ..Do you work hard or are you lucky?
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Hi Tomato,
family business -> u might want to change ur job again if there's no opportunity within.
There can be many different reason why ur manager treat you this way...
Let me raise one common mistake I see and you see if it fits ok? Cause hard to pin point the root cause with the limited information..
Often, new people neither appreciate the fact that others have spend a lot of thoughts and effort into things like workflow/business process design. Nor did they understood (or at least perceived by the manager not to have understood the topic to a good level) before they start giving suggestion or become critical.
If you are already an experienced person and understood the company, plus your boss have already witness and acknowledged your capability, you would more likely to be successful when you are raising suggestions in a straight forward approach.
If you are new, it would be better to approach any suggestion/question you might have using a discussion/collaborative approach. Before you raise a suggestion, ask your manager why is it design this way. How did it solve the issue or how does it support the operation. After you "show" your boss you have seek and understood his design, then you raise your suggestion. If you wanna raise to him any problem with the design, first seek to understand his design, then ask critical question on how his design is going to cater to a problem which u anticipate would occur. If he can't answer you. Then you give your suggestion.
If you are new, people would always doubt whether you have understood or study the topic enough to suggest. And yes, most likely your suggestion would be wrong since you did not do as much ground work. If you do it without seeking to understand the topic deeply first and is wrong in your suggestion, people would see you in a bad light. It also reveal ur poor communication skill and ability to collaborate with others.
Even if you are right, you are putting urself in a direct confrontational situation, telling ur manager that I'm just here and I'm right while u r wrong. He/she loses face. Who want to lose face to a newbie?
Go with a discussion and collaboration approach. It'll be much better received.
As for your PM, many PM have vast experience and have a tough character. But they have plenty to share. If they correct you. You might be better to listen and try to learn from them. There is a lot of reason why PM do certain things in a certain way, which are not understood by others. But those things helps to attain project success, even if others don't understand it. Go one step better. Tell them that you like to move to PM role one day and ask them to teach/mentor you with each comming project =) Most would be v glad to do so. Even if u don't pick up anything, u'll gain a deeper understanding of your PM's expectation and style, which would help.
family business -> u might want to change ur job again if there's no opportunity within.
There can be many different reason why ur manager treat you this way...
Let me raise one common mistake I see and you see if it fits ok? Cause hard to pin point the root cause with the limited information..
Often, new people neither appreciate the fact that others have spend a lot of thoughts and effort into things like workflow/business process design. Nor did they understood (or at least perceived by the manager not to have understood the topic to a good level) before they start giving suggestion or become critical.
If you are already an experienced person and understood the company, plus your boss have already witness and acknowledged your capability, you would more likely to be successful when you are raising suggestions in a straight forward approach.
If you are new, it would be better to approach any suggestion/question you might have using a discussion/collaborative approach. Before you raise a suggestion, ask your manager why is it design this way. How did it solve the issue or how does it support the operation. After you "show" your boss you have seek and understood his design, then you raise your suggestion. If you wanna raise to him any problem with the design, first seek to understand his design, then ask critical question on how his design is going to cater to a problem which u anticipate would occur. If he can't answer you. Then you give your suggestion.
If you are new, people would always doubt whether you have understood or study the topic enough to suggest. And yes, most likely your suggestion would be wrong since you did not do as much ground work. If you do it without seeking to understand the topic deeply first and is wrong in your suggestion, people would see you in a bad light. It also reveal ur poor communication skill and ability to collaborate with others.
Even if you are right, you are putting urself in a direct confrontational situation, telling ur manager that I'm just here and I'm right while u r wrong. He/she loses face. Who want to lose face to a newbie?
Go with a discussion and collaboration approach. It'll be much better received.
As for your PM, many PM have vast experience and have a tough character. But they have plenty to share. If they correct you. You might be better to listen and try to learn from them. There is a lot of reason why PM do certain things in a certain way, which are not understood by others. But those things helps to attain project success, even if others don't understand it. Go one step better. Tell them that you like to move to PM role one day and ask them to teach/mentor you with each comming project =) Most would be v glad to do so. Even if u don't pick up anything, u'll gain a deeper understanding of your PM's expectation and style, which would help.
girlytomato
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ya stanzza !! I hate to say u are rite!! that's the mistake I made .. Isnt it too late..
Another thing I cant stand is that my manager is also a family member.. arrghh
Another thing I cant stand is that my manager is also a family member.. arrghh
miloice
Well-Known Member
hi Tomato, what's a PE? A project or team lead?
I'm surprised on why a PM role can be routine. Whatever improvements and recommendations should be linked back to the biz priorities. There are 101 ways to coordinate, plan and optimize. But you only go the extra mile to optimize when its making a significant benefit to the biz. You need to understand the opportunity window, potential gain etc and align your planning to it.
When you prez your plan, it has to be inline with the biz and helping the management gain the most from the new project. I duno if its your boss or are you just filling data in the standard templates for your program. Its a highly stress and challenging role as each team and stakeholders will have their own agenda. It will be no end and crazy to squeeze everyone's balls. You just make enemies. But you don't just happily accept everyone's schedule. As the program manager, it is key that you understand the biz objectives and push decisions and planning to optimize the opportunity. When the various leaders start to share and appreciate their extra efforts in the job are directly impacting and contributing, they would be more appreciative of what you are doing.
The job of the program manager is not to do people's job but to ensure everything is done in time and in line with the market needs. You run the show.
I'm surprised on why a PM role can be routine. Whatever improvements and recommendations should be linked back to the biz priorities. There are 101 ways to coordinate, plan and optimize. But you only go the extra mile to optimize when its making a significant benefit to the biz. You need to understand the opportunity window, potential gain etc and align your planning to it.
When you prez your plan, it has to be inline with the biz and helping the management gain the most from the new project. I duno if its your boss or are you just filling data in the standard templates for your program. Its a highly stress and challenging role as each team and stakeholders will have their own agenda. It will be no end and crazy to squeeze everyone's balls. You just make enemies. But you don't just happily accept everyone's schedule. As the program manager, it is key that you understand the biz objectives and push decisions and planning to optimize the opportunity. When the various leaders start to share and appreciate their extra efforts in the job are directly impacting and contributing, they would be more appreciative of what you are doing.
The job of the program manager is not to do people's job but to ensure everything is done in time and in line with the market needs. You run the show.
hi tomato girl
i would think that EQ skills can be polished, it's a matter of how much a person wants to seek self-improvement? for me, it's through lessons and constructive criticisms that hone this particular aspect as well as problem-solving skills.
like when i first started my first sales job some 8 years ago, i was not short of confidence but i only knew how to sell and sell - at times, i couldn't even fulfil my quota. mainly, i was pissed with myself that i couldn't do as well as i thought i easily could - thus, i did alot of self-analysis and observations (on my seniors) and realised that i was firing all over the place, even though my sales figures managed to hit.
at that time, i just didn't figure out that there is alot of difference between selling to a satisfied customer and a Happier one. needless to say, it also requires accumulated experience to convert the former to the latter. and some of those ex-colleagues are naturally gifted with customer management.
one important aspect for myself - say the right things at the right time.
anyway, do you tend to face recurring issues with your boss, colleagues and/or cilents? if so, then you gotta honestly sort yourself out (those bad habits during work), and also, critically look at their main requirements at the same time. start to look from this angle, and chances are that you won't be that frustrated with your own performance like before.
additionally, TRY not to get too personal (esp. with female colleagues) at work. it's detrimental and unnecessary.
i would think that EQ skills can be polished, it's a matter of how much a person wants to seek self-improvement? for me, it's through lessons and constructive criticisms that hone this particular aspect as well as problem-solving skills.
like when i first started my first sales job some 8 years ago, i was not short of confidence but i only knew how to sell and sell - at times, i couldn't even fulfil my quota. mainly, i was pissed with myself that i couldn't do as well as i thought i easily could - thus, i did alot of self-analysis and observations (on my seniors) and realised that i was firing all over the place, even though my sales figures managed to hit.
at that time, i just didn't figure out that there is alot of difference between selling to a satisfied customer and a Happier one. needless to say, it also requires accumulated experience to convert the former to the latter. and some of those ex-colleagues are naturally gifted with customer management.
one important aspect for myself - say the right things at the right time.
anyway, do you tend to face recurring issues with your boss, colleagues and/or cilents? if so, then you gotta honestly sort yourself out (those bad habits during work), and also, critically look at their main requirements at the same time. start to look from this angle, and chances are that you won't be that frustrated with your own performance like before.
additionally, TRY not to get too personal (esp. with female colleagues) at work. it's detrimental and unnecessary.
miloice
Well-Known Member
And actually, the best way to defend your mistake is to focus on analysing its impact and pushing forward the best recommendation to 1st fix it and next how to avoid it in future.
Sometimes, after the analysis, the impact is zero. Then, no matter how others scold you, you really don't need to care. Because, it doesn't impact anything at all. Just take note, not to repeat it. In fact, you should start wondering WTF is this step for since its not impacting anything.
Can you go into a discussion with a manager or colleague trashing out everything to understand his pov and countering etc and then leave the room and have lunch and coffee with him as if nothing has happened? If you are becoming emotionally affected over the disputes in work, then its something you need to work on.
Sometimes, after the analysis, the impact is zero. Then, no matter how others scold you, you really don't need to care. Because, it doesn't impact anything at all. Just take note, not to repeat it. In fact, you should start wondering WTF is this step for since its not impacting anything.
Can you go into a discussion with a manager or colleague trashing out everything to understand his pov and countering etc and then leave the room and have lunch and coffee with him as if nothing has happened? If you are becoming emotionally affected over the disputes in work, then its something you need to work on.
and speaking of street-smart, i'm solely referring to Creativity, and being less rigid with implementations/solutions help to improvise the current operations as well.
i know people who always stick firmly to A-B-C-D after so damn long when an expressline from A to D is doable for the longest time. for the current Me, it is easier to convince colleagues and even customers to implement a faster (and more effective) measure as compared to the old Me.
i know people who always stick firmly to A-B-C-D after so damn long when an expressline from A to D is doable for the longest time. for the current Me, it is easier to convince colleagues and even customers to implement a faster (and more effective) measure as compared to the old Me.
and don't doubt your own intelligence, as and when, you couldn't help but compare yourself to others.
anyway it's no surprise that each and everyone of us has different strengths, so......... don't get de-moralised by colleagues esp. those who have the tendency to name-call.
like few days back, one of my good friends was so damn blardy upset the whole evening as her "more experienced" colleague said that she was stupid.
personally, it doesn't help any cause and it's not a constructive comment. so, i told her to stand up for herself as it's perfectly fine to ask and learn more.
anyway it's no surprise that each and everyone of us has different strengths, so......... don't get de-moralised by colleagues esp. those who have the tendency to name-call.
like few days back, one of my good friends was so damn blardy upset the whole evening as her "more experienced" colleague said that she was stupid.
personally, it doesn't help any cause and it's not a constructive comment. so, i told her to stand up for herself as it's perfectly fine to ask and learn more.
tomato, i guess all u lack is the REAL hunger for success. What i see is that u're going after the monetary aspect of the job and you do not really hve the PASSION for what you're doing (considering that u mentioned that you'll be lazy in your comfort zone) so u're jumping jobs cos u envy what others are getting and what you're not getting.
i do agree that to do things well, most of the time all u need is logic and common sense. Just like my job. its supposed to be a "professional"industry but seriously, anybody with common sense will be able to figure out what i'm doing. However, i never allow myself to be in a"comfort zone"as i will cease to grow if i'm ever there. so i constantly challenge myself. maybe u'll like to try that as well. and MAY produce better quality work resulting in more recognition
i do agree that to do things well, most of the time all u need is logic and common sense. Just like my job. its supposed to be a "professional"industry but seriously, anybody with common sense will be able to figure out what i'm doing. However, i never allow myself to be in a"comfort zone"as i will cease to grow if i'm ever there. so i constantly challenge myself. maybe u'll like to try that as well. and MAY produce better quality work resulting in more recognition
@May: Thanks
@Tomato: It's never too late =) Many ppl have commited this mistake and moved on with their career (I have seen it). It's not career ruining as long as you learn and improved on it. What I know is that many managers are happy and glad when they see their ppl improved. Those whom learn and improve shows that the person have potential. They would give you more opportunity if they see that you improved in many cases.
By the way, don't keep too much thoughts about family business, crony ties etc. You have to believe in urself.
No one can put a good person down. So the main thing is to constantly develop and improve yourself. At the end of day, if there's no opportunity from within, you bring along all the experience/exposure/skill with you to the next company. These are the things that is going to help you achieve your goals in life, regardless of the place.
Agree with milo, a project cannot be routine, because one main characteristic of a project is that it is supposed to be unique (otherwise it cannot be considered a project, but rather, operation work). The 2 other characteristic is that it always have a definite start and finish date and that it have a clear defined objective.
However, having working with manufacturing project before I sort of understand why it can be so.
Straightly speaking. Project mgmt in manufacturing is not exactly project mgmt. It is actually operational work. I believe you have template with pre-defined milestone, detailed description of process and deliverables. Established responsibilities of each person's task at each stage. Even the wbs is almost always the same, with only a little bit of changes. Is always the same guys on the steering commitee and sponsors also. In the case of change management, you also already have a group of change board members already establish, and everything I described above.
In a real project, u have to establish all these from scratch. There's no establish process, templates etc. You also have to work out what are the work packages. There maybe some reference you can make from previous project, but it would always be quite different.
I don't think you are doing program mgmt. But you might wanna go into that later in your career.
I think what you need now is some self motivation and fire in ur belly. Do lots of reading and self improvement. Seek feedback from people whom are close to you. I always do that when I'm down. I read and try to improve myself to gear up for the fight when I find myself down and battered =)
As long as you are good, you will get your financial rewards one way or another. And you can only become good if u take effort to constantly improve.
@Tomato: It's never too late =) Many ppl have commited this mistake and moved on with their career (I have seen it). It's not career ruining as long as you learn and improved on it. What I know is that many managers are happy and glad when they see their ppl improved. Those whom learn and improve shows that the person have potential. They would give you more opportunity if they see that you improved in many cases.
By the way, don't keep too much thoughts about family business, crony ties etc. You have to believe in urself.
No one can put a good person down. So the main thing is to constantly develop and improve yourself. At the end of day, if there's no opportunity from within, you bring along all the experience/exposure/skill with you to the next company. These are the things that is going to help you achieve your goals in life, regardless of the place.
Agree with milo, a project cannot be routine, because one main characteristic of a project is that it is supposed to be unique (otherwise it cannot be considered a project, but rather, operation work). The 2 other characteristic is that it always have a definite start and finish date and that it have a clear defined objective.
However, having working with manufacturing project before I sort of understand why it can be so.
Straightly speaking. Project mgmt in manufacturing is not exactly project mgmt. It is actually operational work. I believe you have template with pre-defined milestone, detailed description of process and deliverables. Established responsibilities of each person's task at each stage. Even the wbs is almost always the same, with only a little bit of changes. Is always the same guys on the steering commitee and sponsors also. In the case of change management, you also already have a group of change board members already establish, and everything I described above.
In a real project, u have to establish all these from scratch. There's no establish process, templates etc. You also have to work out what are the work packages. There maybe some reference you can make from previous project, but it would always be quite different.
I don't think you are doing program mgmt. But you might wanna go into that later in your career.
I think what you need now is some self motivation and fire in ur belly. Do lots of reading and self improvement. Seek feedback from people whom are close to you. I always do that when I'm down. I read and try to improve myself to gear up for the fight when I find myself down and battered =)
As long as you are good, you will get your financial rewards one way or another. And you can only become good if u take effort to constantly improve.
miloice
Well-Known Member
I agree that the process and templates in the manufacturing biz is very SOP. However, the nature of the project isn't really always the same. Each will have unique challenges and constraints. If the company has all the comfort on budget and schedule, it only shows that they are making good money with not enough competition. Unless they are in some proprietary patented technology that gives them the advantage to monopolise the market. I used to work with the press, they have this kind of clear advantage.
Normally, in the manufacturing biz, they cannot remain in such a position for long. Sooner or later, competition will hit them hard and they have to relook at their entire cost structure, processes and organization and revamp everything for a more competitive lower cost model.
It is hard for functional supporting teams to appreciate and understand the real biz priorities and urgency of the project. To them, its 8-6, well defined job scope. Exactly, the view tomato is having over her work.
Sometimes, optimizing the ramp-up by a few days could mean securing a tender for the next 6 months of constant orders of millions. Or savings of few cents per part for the next quarter of billions orders. Figure out the impact for the biz.
And other times, the project can be of so low priority because it doesn't have any short term gain. More for long term maintenance effect. So, how could it be the same every time?
Normally, in the manufacturing biz, they cannot remain in such a position for long. Sooner or later, competition will hit them hard and they have to relook at their entire cost structure, processes and organization and revamp everything for a more competitive lower cost model.
It is hard for functional supporting teams to appreciate and understand the real biz priorities and urgency of the project. To them, its 8-6, well defined job scope. Exactly, the view tomato is having over her work.
Sometimes, optimizing the ramp-up by a few days could mean securing a tender for the next 6 months of constant orders of millions. Or savings of few cents per part for the next quarter of billions orders. Figure out the impact for the biz.
And other times, the project can be of so low priority because it doesn't have any short term gain. More for long term maintenance effect. So, how could it be the same every time?
And... have patience. Don't be too overly eager to impress ur boss.
The best way is always to impress through your work. Then add on with some impressive "talk" and presentation. Never try to impress if you have nothing to show on hand
Do some good work first in your area of responsibility. Then talk about things on how business can be improvement etc. Before you have good solid work performance to show, just show enthusiasm in learning abt your company, your work and how other function works, but don't "act smart" ah =D hehe...
The best way is always to impress through your work. Then add on with some impressive "talk" and presentation. Never try to impress if you have nothing to show on hand
Do some good work first in your area of responsibility. Then talk about things on how business can be improvement etc. Before you have good solid work performance to show, just show enthusiasm in learning abt your company, your work and how other function works, but don't "act smart" ah =D hehe...
1) How many years did u work to be in ur current position / your pay?
a) less than 5 years
b) 5-10years
c) >10 years
d) >20 years
Ans: A
2) What you achieve now is depend on
a) hard work
b) smart
c) luck
d) all the above
Ans: A & C
3) Do you make careless mistakes and how do you handle it?
Ans: Learn from your mistake and make sure you do not do the same mistake again
4) What advices will you give to someone who wanna climb the ladder?
Ans: Think what others do not think and know how to network with those around you
Stay Positive and be sure of your goals and work hard to achieve those goals and soon your results will be coming in..
a) less than 5 years
b) 5-10years
c) >10 years
d) >20 years
Ans: A
2) What you achieve now is depend on
a) hard work
b) smart
c) luck
d) all the above
Ans: A & C
3) Do you make careless mistakes and how do you handle it?
Ans: Learn from your mistake and make sure you do not do the same mistake again
4) What advices will you give to someone who wanna climb the ladder?
Ans: Think what others do not think and know how to network with those around you
Stay Positive and be sure of your goals and work hard to achieve those goals and soon your results will be coming in..
Hi Milo,
I'm not saying that manufacturing project is 100% same =). But they are similar enough to reuse the same templates and process. And that a one time setup of the project organization is normally enough to cover most of the project that comes along within the next 10yrs. If you have a establish workflow, template and a in tray with dateline. In project mgmt domain, that is considered more operational rather than project. I won't say it is 100% operational, but more towards that.
Normally, due to the uniqueness of each project, these items can't be specify or pre-define and reused. Most of the time, it is a case of business trigger project idea and objective, then PM/Biz perform a feasibility study based on financial, operational and technical benefits. Once approved and budget is allocated. It is the PM show to establish everything from scratch and run the show to get it done. That's the reason why, that techniques and methods are always very general in project mgmt framework. You can't be very specific before hand, such as having a checklist that say what needs to be done that can more or less be reused.
Yes, there is always something unique and challenges in manufacturing project. But the uniqueness is like 10-20% and the repeatation is like 80%?
Compared to finance, IT, supply chain or marketing project. The difference is much more. Thus, we almost do not see such templates around in these functions. Is always PM go figure.
I'm not saying that manufacturing project is 100% same =). But they are similar enough to reuse the same templates and process. And that a one time setup of the project organization is normally enough to cover most of the project that comes along within the next 10yrs. If you have a establish workflow, template and a in tray with dateline. In project mgmt domain, that is considered more operational rather than project. I won't say it is 100% operational, but more towards that.
Normally, due to the uniqueness of each project, these items can't be specify or pre-define and reused. Most of the time, it is a case of business trigger project idea and objective, then PM/Biz perform a feasibility study based on financial, operational and technical benefits. Once approved and budget is allocated. It is the PM show to establish everything from scratch and run the show to get it done. That's the reason why, that techniques and methods are always very general in project mgmt framework. You can't be very specific before hand, such as having a checklist that say what needs to be done that can more or less be reused.
Yes, there is always something unique and challenges in manufacturing project. But the uniqueness is like 10-20% and the repeatation is like 80%?
Compared to finance, IT, supply chain or marketing project. The difference is much more. Thus, we almost do not see such templates around in these functions. Is always PM go figure.
miloice
Well-Known Member
Yap, I understand your point. My advise for Tomato is to understand the objectives and steer her contributions, priorities and whatever recommendations to the big picture. It helps to make more sense for her and probably her suggestions would be more appreciated this way.
She can definitely see a lot more value in her work than just routine despite having to comply with processes and templates. Else, the QAO will be chasing her with long list of Non Compliancy issues.
The routine part still has to go on but it isn't all there is in the job.
She can definitely see a lot more value in her work than just routine despite having to comply with processes and templates. Else, the QAO will be chasing her with long list of Non Compliancy issues.
girlytomato
New Member
Hi Milo , to answer ur qns "what's a PE? A project or team lead? " , I am a project executive...
For my job scope, it is very well defined.. Process and templates in the manufacturing biz is very SOP. The repeation is around 80% to 90%..
Hi stanzza, regarding yr msg :" I think what you need now is some self motivation and fire in ur belly. Do lots of reading and self improvement. Seek feedback from people whom are close to you. I always do that when I'm down. I read and try to improve myself to gear up for the fight when I find myself down and battered =) : " I did try to seek feedback from pple.. like I say in my earlier post... my dad and my bf are just asking me to be satisfied with wat i have..and my friends? 90% are like me.. always complaining about the little $$ they earn.. (just like powder mention earlier "8 out of 10 pple here are either not that happy abt their job, or pay, or environment... and 6 of these 8 pple will do nothing but procrastinate and chuck things aside. u are amongst the 6 pple now... u figure how Not to be amongst them. "
and those 10% who are successful, their advices is that they are lucky (got good bosses and mentors) or they naturally are good talker(great personality) ..
Actually, I find that pple around us are important too.. I envy those pple who have great bosses or mentors to guide them and motivate them. So far, I only met one from my first job..
I really find those advices shared by u guys are very helpful(eg, vios, milo, powder, yourself etc) and will unlikely be offered by my friends..opps.. hahaha
Hi powder, yup.. I will wanna "try my best" to buck up.. at the very start,I just dont know if I doing correctly...but the points that all of you given have enlighten me abit..
I always have fire in me, but it diminishes too.. I WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, I WANT TO EARN LOTSA $$$$ is always in my mind .. I know I need ACTIONS!! what actions ? how to do it right ?
For my job scope, it is very well defined.. Process and templates in the manufacturing biz is very SOP. The repeation is around 80% to 90%..
Hi stanzza, regarding yr msg :" I think what you need now is some self motivation and fire in ur belly. Do lots of reading and self improvement. Seek feedback from people whom are close to you. I always do that when I'm down. I read and try to improve myself to gear up for the fight when I find myself down and battered =) : " I did try to seek feedback from pple.. like I say in my earlier post... my dad and my bf are just asking me to be satisfied with wat i have..and my friends? 90% are like me.. always complaining about the little $$ they earn.. (just like powder mention earlier "8 out of 10 pple here are either not that happy abt their job, or pay, or environment... and 6 of these 8 pple will do nothing but procrastinate and chuck things aside. u are amongst the 6 pple now... u figure how Not to be amongst them. "
and those 10% who are successful, their advices is that they are lucky (got good bosses and mentors) or they naturally are good talker(great personality) ..
Actually, I find that pple around us are important too.. I envy those pple who have great bosses or mentors to guide them and motivate them. So far, I only met one from my first job..
I really find those advices shared by u guys are very helpful(eg, vios, milo, powder, yourself etc) and will unlikely be offered by my friends..opps.. hahaha
Hi powder, yup.. I will wanna "try my best" to buck up.. at the very start,I just dont know if I doing correctly...but the points that all of you given have enlighten me abit..
I always have fire in me, but it diminishes too.. I WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, I WANT TO EARN LOTSA $$$$ is always in my mind .. I know I need ACTIONS!! what actions ? how to do it right ?
tomato,
i guess it's all down to how much of your own mind u can conquer... i think u do realise now that it's really 90% yourself First rite? if u do, then it's definitely a good realization to have.
one thing i can tell u is that it is easily forgotten... the fire, the motivation, the zest... i've kept it with me since i was 19, by spending the nites before i sleep - telling myself that i have to get out of my own mental limitations... i do it today still... it's been 17yrs to be honest, and i dun think my achievements thus far is anything remarkable, but i definitely got out of the poverty cycle. it's how much u want... i guess being financially restricted from young makes for good motivation, but i could just as well be one of those resigned to living life 'contented'.
it all starts with your mind... dun forget that. dun ever defeat yourself Nor be afraid to fail... there is no such thing as succeeding all the way... just keep it going and believe u can and u will.
i guess it's all down to how much of your own mind u can conquer... i think u do realise now that it's really 90% yourself First rite? if u do, then it's definitely a good realization to have.
one thing i can tell u is that it is easily forgotten... the fire, the motivation, the zest... i've kept it with me since i was 19, by spending the nites before i sleep - telling myself that i have to get out of my own mental limitations... i do it today still... it's been 17yrs to be honest, and i dun think my achievements thus far is anything remarkable, but i definitely got out of the poverty cycle. it's how much u want... i guess being financially restricted from young makes for good motivation, but i could just as well be one of those resigned to living life 'contented'.
it all starts with your mind... dun forget that. dun ever defeat yourself Nor be afraid to fail... there is no such thing as succeeding all the way... just keep it going and believe u can and u will.
sgbabydoll
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General degrees are non-professional degrees, for example, business administration, mass communication, arts and social sciences, management, etc.
girlytomato
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stanzza.. southern cross
