Diamond ring - wat size ?

[chelle]

Hihi.... Maybe try SOOKEE... cuz one thing i like about SooKee is that they allow an unlimited times of upgrading of diamonds as compared to the other brands which only allows once... both within 2 years...
But i have to say diamonds are a very personal issue... as much as there's the surprise element, the lady should be there for selecting the ring. especially for the setting and the choice of the diamonds...

but that's only my personal opinion...

 

[knowsy]

SIGH... apathy and indifference - it's sad when one cannot appreciate the truth and tragic realities taking place. At least, give a moment to consider the world around you and even if you can look pass the abuse, don't lose your common sense.

Truth be told...

The slogan "A Diamond Is Forever" was designed to convince the purchaser that although a diamond is a good investment, for sentimental reasons no rock should ever be resold. Given the continuous mining of new stones - not to mention the half-billion or so carats that will never rust, break or wear out walking around on the hands, necks, ears and lapels of hundreds of millions of women - the last thing De Beers wants is to have previously sold stones coming back onto the market.

De Beers has enough problems dealing with the oversupply of new diamonds. In the mid-1950s De Beers was overwhelmed by a flood of small diamonds pouring out of recently discovered mines in the Soviet Union. After nearly a decade and a half of convincing everyone of the importance of larger stones, suddenly the company needed to create a virtue out of the previously disparaged small diamonds. To accomplish this, De Beers invented the "eternity ring," a single, unbroken band of up to 25 evenly matched small stones. The ring was introduced in the early '60s as the best way to renew vows in the home stretch of a long marriage and the best way to wear diamonds without the ostentation of big stones.

As it turns out, this ideal of perpetual ownership is a healthy delusion for the owners of all but the rarest and most expensive diamonds. Despite the illusion that it retains its value, a diamond can only be sold for less than its wholesale price, not what one would consider a good return on investment.

http://archive.salon.com/business/feature/2000/09/27/diamonds/index1.html

 

[vvn]

diamond no more... really appreciate what you have posted. I do feel guilty abt bugging my fiance to get me a diamond ring after I watched Blood Diamond. I know now a lot of people, including julia roberts etc are swearing off diamonds forever. But i guess there's this tiny bit in the female brain to think that no proposal is complete without a diamond ring! and tat is something that even logic can't defy.

blame it to the society and the commercial and advertisments, from tiffany to soo kee, it's always a lady with her handsome fiance (usually face not really shown clearly) and the most important star of the commercial/ print ad - the big fat diamond ring.

It's like being thin or having perfect body/face i would say... we are all victims of adverstising and commercial and brandings.

 

[jgal]

Anyway... the problem is with the ppl in africa.. Got nothing to do us loving diamonds..

It like saying iran and iraq war is cause by oil fields, then we dun have a car?!?

I also watch the show "blood diamond", i empathise with the africans. But then again, if they are merciless towards their own ppl. It got nothing to do with the diamonds. Personally, i think if not for diamonds, they will be at war for other reasons. Maybe they will be grown poppy fields!?!

Let's be realistic abt the situation. In the beginning of the show, the Leonardo did mentioned the same thing happend when rubber / gold other kind of minerial is high demand. Actually not long ago, alot of chinese are sold to Malaya to work in the rubber fields. But chinese survived thru these time because of our strong belief in family and relationship. And also our european lords are more humane.

 

[knowsy]

Charly, I understand to a certain extent the appeal of a diamond. At the end of the day, it's different strokes for different folks. All I hope is for people to be more aware and make informed choices. But after knowing the fact that the value of diamonds is artificial and the realities of the industry is less than transparent, and still people want a diamond, then like you said, it defies logic and that's that.

However, JGal, it's sad that your world view is that narrow that you cannot see the cause and effect. I don't know if you really understood the movie Blood Diamonds - the tragic reality in Africa has everything to do with diamonds. It may be in Africa, but we all live in the same world so our choices affect what goes on around the world.

There's no comparing to other natural resources like oil. While we cannot do without natural resources, be it to power a car or for electricity, we certainly can do without a piece of colourless carbon, which is of little real value.

 

[innercloset]

Hello anyone can advise whether it's ok to purchase a 1 carat solitaire with only in-house cert from T*ka. Any experience or comments? Thanks in advance

 

[jgal]

cindy.. better not .. cos' there has been bride reporting that t*ka diamond turns yellow/black after sometime.

Diamond No More : ha ha ha .. yeah i am narrow-minded. Afterall, there is little we can do to stop the trade.

 

[vvn]

JGal,
hmm... if it's a diamond, why would it turn black or yellow? that's strange. i hope those are real diamonds and not crystals! i was tempted to buy their earrings coz they look so pretty!

cindy,

turning black/ yellow aside, you need to ask urself what is this diamond for. to just erm 'show-off' and wear it often? to keep for now and then upgrade later? for your 'collection' as a rare piece of jewellery? to or to keep it as some family heirloom to be passed on to ur daughter next time?

coz diamonds are expensive mah... so must think hard of what to buy. if you are thinking of upgrade or keepsake or something, may be you will need to have an international cert besides the in-house one.

if you just wnat to show off big diamond and it will be subjected to wear and tear, no harm buying that if the price is reasonable and the diamond is pretty! (no one will ask u to see the cert anyway)

take you time to weigh the pros and cons... afterall, the most impt thing abt diamond ring is that u need to love it!

i just got my ring cleaned and was in this super happy state for the whole of today. ha ha...

 

[nessa81]

to think about it...my FH no buy a diamond ring for me as a proposal ring as it was us decided...but i am someone whom dont mind..

 

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[whatodo]

Best diamond size is >0.3 carat ... Do not go for branded diamonds like Destinee, BR ... cos I realised that even LH salesppl cannot recognize whether a diamond is Destinee ... Personally, I own a 0.34 Destinee which I can use to purchase a much bigger GIA diamond ...

 

[roses]

My proposal ring is a 0.3ct diamond, flanked with two small diamonds of 0.05ct each on both sides of the ring. Though the size is not considered big, I am contented with it, as it is a token of love from my FH.

 

[hapimint]

My proposal ring is a 0.5ct diamond from Sookee... I am more than happy with it... but like my SO to tell me that he will get bigger and better ones next time when he can afford it... hong me, i also happy mar... haha

 

[diamond_illiterate]

hi all, anyone knows if a Van Cleef & Arpels diamond ring's any good? what abt Larry's Lazare? any idea how much would a reasonable 1carat cost?
cheers

 

[roomfulofstars]

Are there any wholesale diamonds that would be cut similar to the Gabrielle?

any contacts?

 

[princess_cabbage]

Hi JGal,

Not sure if you are still lingering in this forum. What do you tink of the Starr collection from D'Meyson Jewellery?

My FH bought my proposal ring from there. Ideal Cut, 0.5, G color, VS2, i tink. Cost him 2k... is it gd? Why can a ideal cut ring cost so cheap?

This is open to other brides for their opinion as well... thanks.

 

[cactus_79]

Hi cabbage,

I've not heard about ideal cut before, but I'm not familiar with D'Meyson collection. My husband bought me 0.46ct, E colour, VS1, from Soo Kee, normal cut, $1.5k. I'm very happy with it.

D, E, F is considered colourless. G is not defined as "colourless".
VS1 and VS2 are not that ideal in terms of inclusions. VVS1 and VVS2 are better.
There is a price jump at 0.5 and 1 ct so 0.5 ct is actually unproportionately more expensive than a 0.49ct for diamonds with same specifications.

I don't think $2k is cheap, unless the ideal cut is really that good.

 

[jgal]

Cabbage.. that's very cheap for ideal cut. Cut is The most impt for a diamond cos' it the only thing that can be control by man. Alot of diamond are cut "smaller" in order to be ideal. So a 0.5 ideal cut def. more expensive than then normal cut diamond, even if they have better clarity, color. For clarify, you need to check what kind of defect, whether it's a feather or a spot etc and where is the inclusion, all these will determine the "value" of the diamond. Not just the grade. If it's vvs1 but on the table of the diamond. It almost as good as vs2 nearer the bottom.

I didnt know that Meyson has ideal cut. I thought their star collection is just hearts and arrows.
Ideal cut refer to all the hearts and arrows are in equal proportional. Anyway, 2k for H&A of that quality is a good buy.

Maybe your fh bluff you, dun want you to heart-ache abt the price.

 

[tinkylover]

Ideal cut is actually Lazare's trademark. When you look at the diamond under a scope, the patterns are symmetrical. The words "Ideal cut" are patented by Lazare so I don't think Meyson has them. Hearts and arrows is another term most shops use. A 1 carat Ideal cut can cost $25k but a similar H&A $12K. $1.5K is a steal for the diamond, cabbage. Usually, a diamond of the same specs shd cost more than $2K.

 

[jule]

It's not true only Lazare diamonds are ideal cuts.. LeeHwa's Destinee, SK's True Love, TianPo's Aurias all are ideal cut diamonds.

 

[princess_cabbage]

Hi Gals,

Sorry if I provide the wrong info.
It's Hearts & Arrows actually. Isnt it the same as Ideal/Perfect Cut? I understood from my cert that everything was stated as excellent. Does it mean anything?

 

[jule]

Cabbage, most important is it's from your FH

 

[jgal]

From what i know only LeeHwa's Destinee, Sookee's Fugo and TianPo' HeartOnFire are consider ideal cut.
The term ideal cut. Is like Ideal home, only if you use it as a "brand", then it is protected by patent. In the industry, ideal cut refers to perfect H&A, it also consider the table portions to the depth of the diamond.. Alot of things..

I know that SK's True Love, Meyson and Citigem only has H&A, cos' it relatively "cheaper" to own. Cos' not many H&A gets a "ideal rating". It's like tip of the tops..

Lazare's cut is diff. Just like tiffany's, cartier's.. and other big brand names. They are cut to the best of the diamond, not necessary to display 8 perfect hearts and arrows under the scope. As some of you may notice, when you are buying in Lazare showroom, only some of their diamonds make it to "lazare' grade" also.

I was talking to a friend who was GIA-cert. She told me that in the states, ppl are more concern abt the cut, and dont really mind the color.. They opt for shining diamond ( good cutting) that a "pure white" with poor shine.

the cost of the diamond is largely determine by its cut. Cos' when you cut the diamond, you cant simply chop abit more on one side , just to make it a IF. The diamond has to be calculated and examined very carefully before cutting..

 

[jgal]

Cabbage.

No.
"ideal" cut is like the best of the best.. Has to be better than excellence..

for those who want to know more abt grading/cut.. you can refer to this site
http://diamonds.pricescope.com/round.asp

 

[andain]

My proposal ring is a 0.22 brilliant cut classic Tiffany ring.

 

[clair3]

hi please help! =)
is this 3.2 carat ring worth it to buy?

Colour: G
Clarity: VS2
Price: $900

please help =) its my first time buying a ring =)

 

[jgal]

claire.. where is the diamond cert? is it a whole diamond or made up of smaller diamond. $900 is too cheap.. beware it's a russian diamond.

 

[kjustina81]

Mine: Lee Hwa's Destinee - 0.42 carat sol

 

[casgy]

In your opinion, what is the reasonable/market price for
0.36 carat sol brilliant round diamond ring
Colour: G
Clarity: VS1
Cut = Very Good
Polishing = Execellent
Symmetry = Very Good
Flourecens = None

Thanks

 

[eigga]

Hi all,
I have a Diamond Ring from LeeHwa for sale, 0.46carats, VS2, E colour. Comes with certifcate. Bought it at $1900, willing to let go at $1600.

Please email me at [email protected]

 

[terr]

Hi all,

I need some help here.
Recently, I have been hunting around for engagement ring and need some advice.
I have been to SK, Goldheart, Lee Hwa, Sookee.
At this point of time I'm interested in a 0.9 carat, G color, SI2 clarity, round cut and GIA certified diamond ring from Sookee. They are charging me $5508 after discount (I think it's a 50% discount).
Is it a good buy?

I have not been to eClarity and Josi yet. Should I go this 2 places to take a look?

 

[kyclaire]

Im selling a 0.47 diamond solitaire! worn for a few months only!

$1500 price slight neg.

With Gia cert! can pm me for more details or pictures =)

 

[ade_oei]

I was reading through the thread,
I learn alot more about dimonds.
Btw, Ideal cuts dimonds is certified by AGS
And I have TAKA pendant which is still sparkles.
Terr> The larger the cts size, i think u might want to consider the Colour grade, because, it will get more obvious.

 

[simplymel]

Got a quote from Soo Kee for the following @$1729 after discount:
Carat: 0.3
Clarity: VVS2
Colour: D
Cut: Round brilliant (v good)
Worth the buy?

 

[fat_ger]

Hi Melvyn,

Is worth buying..can buy

 

[xiaoqing]

Hi, I just got a Ideal cut diamond, 1.03ct, J color and VS1 at $9935. Worth it?

 

[fat_ger]

Hmm.. colour J ah? Not bad.. but of cause can get a better one with this price.

 

[lynnnie]

Hi mine is 0.37 G colour VS2 Brilliant Rose @ $3.1k. Is it worth it?

 

[fat_ger]

solitaire ah? I bought a ring costs $4K..

 

[lynnnie]

hi fat ger, ya it's a solitaire. Is it worth the money spend?

 

[fat_ger]

what is the cut of the diamond?

 

[strawberrymuffins]

what is the clarity?it matters too

 

[jgal]

If you not sure what to look out for.. you can make an appointment with Amanda@clarity..

That day i went with a friend to get his diamond ring for his galfriends.. amanda did a nice presentation on the things to look out for..

Whether you eventually get from her.. it's go to let her advise on these things.

 

[jgal]

dun think Brilliant Rose is worth the money.. cos' this cutting does not bring out the true brilliant of the diamond.. It always known that
58 facets (or 57 if the culet is excluded) give the best brilliant.. anything less or anything more.. the shine comprised.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_cut#Round_brilliant

 

[tattoosio]

huh, anyone wants to buy diamond at good price? e-mail me at [email protected] for details.
shop around and i can do a counter offer if possible, just let me know the 4C's...

 

[snowyflake]

I need some advise from the experts here, have the following specs:
Carat weight: 1.00
clolour grade E
Clarity grade: SI1
Cut grade: very good
Polish & Finish: very good

The one small spot for the SI1 grading is 'off the table', just at the side and some clouding at the extreme opposite side.
At price of $8679, is this considered a good buy?
Graded by GIA.

 

[junio]

when is the next soo kee sales? is the sales really that good?

 

[blue_mountain]

i also like sookee. i bought their brilliant rose diamonds.

usually, for sookee warehouse sales... only for normal diamonds.

 

[missaiv]

We just bought a Soo Kee Brilliant Rose today. 'D' color VS2 0.42ct, about 3.8K after discount (5% sale + 5% member) - just wanna chk w u all, is this a good buy?

 

[jmlh85]

Seems many of you guys a looking into buying diamonds which are not worth it or are very over priced.

I would really suggest you guys to research a lot online before going out going out spending thousands of dollars on a diamond ring.

I would strongly recommend to have a look at this blog to understand about diamonds.

http://jannpaul-diamonds-casey.blogspot.sg/

Firstly
Personally I would recommend to stay away from diamonds with less than min. VS2, G-color.
Secondly: You cannot rely on a certificate only, there is much more to a diamond than what the certificate shows. A GIA triple excellent can still be bad cut so the fire and scintillation will not show. You have to look on a diamond overall. Through different scopes (ASET, IDEAL, HEARTS&ARROW etc.)