Dating / marrying a Divorcee

scope_guy

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Bubblepuffs,

LOL~ You are really interesting. Break up and patch up. Usual happenings. So how now? Are you going to risk complication and consider someone else and assume this guy is no more? LOL~

That's why I am interested in your case.

After all these exchanges, what do you think you really want? ^.^

I think I have gotten the missing piece. He's a 'weird' chap. It's ok to have feelings... Once rooted, will take time to remove. But you are the sunshine type, and he's like a black hole. LOL~

Perhaps he has indeed married someone that incompatible... ... But here, we don't know in real. But he does know you enough to move upon you. LOL~ Which is why it is weird... He doesn't seem to be that sort who can't handle his wife. And that was 9 yrs. (?)

But at the end of the day, realistically speaking... what is your heart telling you? LOL~

It's that sort of crossroad that you must decide... is it love? Or is it just an encounter? If he is the One...

Yeah, he initiated a break-up, you can cheong yourself lah~ LOL~ Ego is nothing, when it comes to true love.

If only we can know the whole game plan in advance. LOL~

You obviously have too much fun jumping too close. You could have been eaten up alive. LOL~
 


bubblepuffs

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Hi Scope Guy,

As what doLL mentioned earlier - I think we all need a break from each other.

I know I want an open option to marriage and kids - at this age I really have no reason to be closing anything out. I know I still like him very much - when I realized I got assigned the biggest project when I'm only 1 month into my job, I was so tempted to call him to tell him about it. But I held back, maybe he doesn't want to hear from me. So I tried to spread that joy amongst BFFs and my family - everyone was happy but deep inside, it was the different kind of joy with sharing it with him.

When it was something confusing for me, he would sit me down and talk me through things. When it was something that was upsetting me, he would give his best to make me happy again. When it was something that was truly joyous for me, he would cheer for me as well.

And that is why - it did pain me a lot to be bailed out of this relationship or his world when he told me he's very confused about what he wants with his life. He is very frustrated and he couldn't pinpoint what was frustrating. And then he told me I wasn't a source of frustration.

What gives? If I wasn't the source, why kick me out? But it doesn't seem he has unloved me a lot either.

To me, the whole situation is very confusing. There are times I think the whole relationship was a scam. There are times I believe he truly loved me, and still do - but he has to do this for my best interest, he doesn't want me to waste time while he wallow.

But if he had loved me, why would he do this to me? And if he doesn't harbour a little bit of hope of getting back together somewhere down the road, why did he want me to call him when I was at the lift lobby? All the things he did on the day of the breakup does not spell that he wants a true break from me. But then again, he did not contact me again thereafter - which is usually a sign he really needs time away from me i.e a real breakup.

All could be a lie. I wouldn't know, maybe he doesn't either.

There are times I think I overthink the whole situation - there are times I just want to switch if off and not think about it.

As mentioned previously - the only way to get out of the murky water is to wait in patience for the dirt to settle.

Sure - if you ask me what I would do at this moment, I would probably call him up and let him know he had been sorely missed and if we are still on the same page for the feelings we have for each other.

But I believe to a certain extent both of us are confused with the situation, or else we will not end up at the stage we are at. For me, I'm caught between my open options and my feelings for him - it's like a relationship you know at the back of your mind will be great but you are putting it down because of current circumstances. Or maybe I was brought up in a different way - that love is about not giving up in face of difficulties.

But how much does he love me? Probably enough to make a move on me and spend so many months trying to work out my thought process, my likes and dislikes, what I categorize as "desperate men" (he told me before he was worried about being branded as desperate by me because his marriage was dissolved for only 10 months when he came after me), but probably not enough to keep me within his options at this stage.

I don't think there are any complications to be risked at this stage because I'm so tired from all these hoohaa I need a break from dating for a while. But don't worry, I still love myself enough to be open to options.

There are times I find him weird. There are times I think he's fine. There are times I don't know if I know this person. I once spoke to G - that there are times I don't identify with this person. G told me, it's okay, give him some time, he used to be a really happy guy.

I don't know how to judge that because well, I only knew him after his divorce. But people who knew him before his divorce all said the same thing - that he was once a happy chap. My ex colleagues used to tell me when they see me, they feel like they are seeing a female version of him. I eventually even inherited the same nickname they used to give him - Energizer Bunny. People who have seen us hang out together says the same thing - those 2 matches really well.

There was once we ended up fighting in Starbucks (no the verbal kind, but the hitting kind)because I hit him on the back and he hit me back (and cycle continues) - and G's friend was just standing next to us in the queue staring in disbelief - 2 adults in corporate wear just behaving like 2 school kids. She stared in silence, to the point I got worried if she was mad at 2 of us for embarrassing her.

She told G thereafter, these 2's energy matches really well.

The irony is she wasn't the only person to say that. Some of his friends told him the same thing - the 2 of you matches really well. And the reason? They don't know either - just a gut feel.

Such is the irony of life.

He's a blackhole and I'm the sunshine? Hmmm. There are times I feel this way because I have to pull him off the ground - to the point that sometimes I find it hard to stay afloat. Majority of the time we are fine, just sometimes when he gets overwhelmed at work or his bad mood, I do get a dose or two of his baggages.

And that is reason why I do get mixed signals from him on who he is as a person in real. My brother said maybe he saw his former self in me and hence the attraction. I can't justify that, I never knew him before his marriage and I'm not him.

I wouldn't know if he can or cannot handle his ex-wife - but he did told me she was adamant about it. She was bringing up issues that she was unhappy with 6-7 years ago which he said he couldn't even remember saying/doing.

Guess when someone wants to leave you, anything is a reason - exact same situation as me. He wanted to leave - but till today I have no idea what was the real reason. It's painful, it's hurting and most of the time, you feel vulnerable because it seemed like he thought about it so long, and only to hit it in your face expecting you to accept it right on the spot.

And that was the reason why I'm still glad I did not say anything impulsive out of anger or hurt or confusion that day. At least it shows I still have a hold to my emotions to a certain extent - albeit the fact that I did cry really hard that day.

As what doLL mentioned, only time will tell if I deserve a slap or not since things did not end on an ugly note. I guess sometimes when the answer is not available, focus on something else.

Murphy's law: When you need a cab, you never find it. Just like the answer I still am seeking, but I can't find it.

It would have been better if he had said right in my face, into my eyes that he has stopped loving me, let's call it off. But who decides that everyone has to be ceremoniously dumped? I thought I deserved a better breakup line than him burying his face in his hands, eyes on the table and a whispered "Every decision in my brain tells me to call it off."

At this point in time, I can only tell myself to focus on the things that are truly important to me at present - my career, my upcoming exams (ok that's like 5 months away), my friends, my family and my abundant of dating opportunities out there.

Buffet right? LOL

At this point in time, I can't bring myself to communicate with him yet - I've done it twice over the last 2.5/3 weeks since our breakup. Too fast too frequent? I'm not sure either - there's hardly a yardstick for this.

Too much fun jumping too close? I seriously don't know what is the profile of me you are crafting over the other end of the computer. Hahaha

Bottomline: No instant gratification to that hole created in emotions when one is in state of confusion. It only brings upon disasterous outcomes that one might come to regret. I might be wrong, I might be right.
 

sgbabydoll

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Bubblepuffs

From what you have described, there could be a possibility that being with you reminded him of how he was taking care of his ex-wife? He hasn't gotten over the stress and fear of having to take care of someone's needs, despite that you needed him for very different reasons from that of the ex-wife.
 

bubblepuffs

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Hi doLL,

I don't know - it might be, it might not be.

The most demanding request I could think of that I gave him was during his very busy period of time - I told him tongue in cheek: "You owe me proper couple time after you are done with being busy! =D"

Other than that, I can't think of much. Maybe I took up too much of his time but he told me that night, no you are not a chore to entertain, it's nothing to do with that.

What gives?

If it was the stress and fear of having to take care of someone's needs - maybe. According to his friends, he gave up all his entertainment for her - to support her failing business, her insurance and the car that she loved but could not afford to buy. Not to mention the mortgages too. He said the worst thing was after she left the house and the divorce was over, he was still receiving bank drafts for reminders of his ex-wife's car instalments - because she was taking a long time to find a new guarantor and she was constantly late with her payments.

He said he hates to have to deal with all these even after she is gone from his life. The divorce has been about 1 year and it's only a few weeks ago that he finally received the contract of the new guarantor.

He told me before as well - she's your wife, you have to make sure her business is doing well, she is well insured, she has the things she wants - which was the reason I pointed out to Scope Guy earlier, sometimes I think he takes on too much responsibilities for a lot of things that actually he doesn't need to.

I don't know anymore - and I can't possibly try to figure out his thought process.
 

scope_guy

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Bubblepuffs,

Actually I was starting off with the idea that you fell in love for the sake of falling in love. LOL~

It is not how a girl in love seems to me... But in a way, you do sound like you are 'enjoying' this love-hate story.

It's obvious... You don't really understand that love of yours; too many other people's views and such you are bothered with. Small things as such suggested a successful crush in progress and now... it's like a hangover from a drug overdose to me.

This is life, and enjoy the confusion. LOL~

Don't settle for second best. Get the One. LOL~
 

bubblepuffs

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Hello Scope Guy,

I never knew people fell in love with the sake of falling in love. Interesting point of view.

The last time I check, I'm not really into creating pain for myself ;) If I really am enjoying this love-hate story, I might actually be sitting down right outside his place every other day trying to ask him to take me back. Creating more hate in order to feel more love - that's what I call 'enjoying' a love-hate story.

Or like what my friend did - getting on her knees to ask her ex to take her. Waiting at his void deck with his favourite food on a daily basis. Of course that was done in the silly years of being a teen, she has grown up and moved on.

No I'm not into that - plainly because I happen to love myself enough. And I happen to cherish whatever remaining bit of friendship I have left with this person.

Don't really get this - "Small things as such suggested a successful crush in progress and now... it's like a hangover from a drug overdose to me." You might want to elaborate.

Closure is something people would seek if not given. That's presumably human nature in my opinion.

I never said I understood him so I'm not going to take that accusation ;) I reckon sometimes people have troubles understanding themselves, let alone another entirely different human being.

You are drafting a profile of me which I have no idea where you are drawing from but it's a fascinating view.

Is there really The One in this world? The world is not that ideal - usually The One that we all fondly speak about suggest more of a seemingly alright person at the right point in time and place. (I don't know what perception you are getting - but it seemed to you that I'm dying to capture this guy back in my pocket for whatever reason that I don't fathom - you might want to enlighten me on that ;) )

In the midst of your very realistic facade, you seemed to have a little of an idealistic view as well.

Well do correct me if I am wrong.
 

scope_guy

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Bubblepuffs,

There are many great guys out there... date around, and you'd know why I perceive you that way. ^.6

What I was saying is... if you love someone in real, you'd have somehow understood him. I was fooling around with a Sad And Heartbroken... you can go over and peep. LOL~ Sad woman, but I'd rather drag her by the hair and kick her to the mirror than having her hold some crazy illusions...

Idealistic... But my dear little girl, love is always idealistic to all the lazy little cutie pigs. LOL~

Bubblepuffs, if you are truthful, you are one fantastic companion in life to have... Any guy who could have you would be more or less blessed because it's not just 'me me me me me me'. You deserve a great man more than those assholes out there.

To them, what you deserve is idealistic. But to you... Don't you want to be realistically happy? LOL~

Who is the One for you, I don't know. But you can get a better deal, why the idea of getting something as so-so as the rest? LOL~

Anyway, when has love been rational? LOL~
 

bubblepuffs

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Aww come on, I'm not saying I'm going to be staying behind this computer and sulk for the rest of my life.

I'm not an idealistic person - I don't know maybe in the midst of airy fairy, I understand that we live in the real world after all. Love is beautiful, but love has to be real too.

Aww who doesn't want to be realistically happy? Everyone wants to be.

I don't know how much more truthful I can get - I have my darkest truth about the guy decked out here in a public forum. Geez. But the thing is...I've never revealed that much of this to that dude - thought it seemed a little weak :S I have a ego issue maybe.

Yeah everyone says I can get a better deal - and sure I will. As what that dude mentioned - I have a big patch of life ahead of me whereas he's old (I do not concur by the way).

I guess somewhere in my mind or heart - there is a lingering thought about an unfinished story and hence my digital vomit of romantic woes to a group of very patient strangers who would bled their eyes reading my long long grandma story.

Aww come on, women are not THAT selfish - been meeting bad women? I haven't met many really selfish ones in my life - or maybe I haven't seen enough. As you mentioned - too green too little.

I have my own profile of him - which is something that I drawn out from spending time with him and seeing how he react to situations. But I would never say I understand him because like I said - no one can truly understand another person. My profile of him speaks through my words (very responsible, caring, supportive, pretty good listener) - which might end up sounding a little too good to be true character for a guy - minusing the part that he does seem to have some baggages to clear.

So I would take my own judgement with a pinch of salt in case I have been blinded by my own feelings. Yeah they say you should trust your own judgement, but never turn a deaf ear to opinions as well.

I can then decide if I want them internalized - so I don't think I get confused or bothered with multiple opinions. If you realized, I don't think my stand has changed much from start to the end - only the level of nakedness of dirty dark thoughts have changed.
 

scope_guy

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Bubblepuffs,

LOL~ The reality of any matter of the heart is of the beautiful idealism behind. What hence is hatred? Can we define a realism of it?

Unless God favors you, and let you know more of the fate, else how? How would you know if the story would go anywhere? LOL~

This is a world of assholes, Bubblepuffs. I only deal in anything real for this instance.

I see your basis of an ideal romance story of a lifetime, that's why I wish I hope I want you to be serious with whom you'd find. Amongst all those superficial pathetic women... I'd be very glad to see a great seed blossom.

You are not yet ready; even if he is the One... a premature engagement won't be nice. LOL~ Not to mention, I am quite sure it's a love for love's sake.

I love my women, and I read them like a book...

When you love anything, you'd be able to know. You love your child, you know his characters, when he lies, when he's happy and such...

Well... You are not idealistic... so am I. But when it comes to matter of the heart, I have to be idealistic, because that's realistic to be idealistic.

You are a woman... I seem to have given you too much tips for your hunt. LOL~

Women are just that selfish. Trust me. When it comes to man... it's always selfish. LOL~ Even if it never makes sense, it's still selfish.

Too green, too little... LOL~
 

bubblepuffs

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Hahahaha okokokok too green too little.

Thanks for the tips then! And henceforth I shall go embark on the journey of de-greening myself!!

Don't worry, i want to remain a great seed.

>SM: Okokokok it's a boring story, I get it. LOL
 

simpleman

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bubblepuffs,

I know exactly how your bf is feeling..

I am divorced too.. I have gfs too.. but each time, I would tell them that marriage is out of question now.. in the future, I don't know but I can't commit.

If you are not ok with this situation.. then we break.. in fact, I will bless them to find other better men more ready to settle with them..

At time I even asked them if they need any good recommendation for "potential hb".
 

bubblepuffs

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Wow how long have you been divorced? You know what? He actually said the same thing - he doesn't know in future if he will. Maybe that was why he told me to ask him again in 1-2 yrs time when things looks brighter for him.

He told me I'll nv understand how it is like to go thru a divorce so don't bother understanding that piece. Just know that it's painful and no one should go through it.

I don't claim to know every part of him, but most of the time I do pick up his emotions. I remember when we were friends, just basing on something he says - I can tell what's going on.

And which was why he used to always ask me - "do u think we were like twins like our previous lives?"

Hahaha cliche I know.

This time round I like to believe he chose to back off or let me go because he is confused with his life - but similarly I don't want to think that he likes me so much that he doesn't bear to waste my youth on his uncertainty.

Maybe it's just that little cynic in me which wants me to leave that gap for doubt. Or maybe I don't wish to trust that gut feel at the back of my head.
 

simpleman

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Or you can just take it that he don't love you enough to want to settle with you.. Well, he may not agree with this statement I am making but there is an element of truth in it.

Like me.. I don't rule out 100% getting married again although I know it is unlikely.. The girl that will make me commit myself to a marriage again has to be super super special..
 

bubblepuffs

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Yeah I did mentioned in one of my posts that he probably did like me enough to make a move on me but doesn't love me enough to keep me in his options.

Although his "the good thing is..2 yrs later I will still be around.." Left me vv vv wistful
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, I wish he could have just said I stopped loving you or something.

Well if it's meant to be it's meant to be eh?
 

bubblepuffs

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e told me he can't date for marriage now..because at this point he just can't. When he thinks of marriage, he shudders. He looks back at the 4 yrs he shudders

And the worst part was when he said "the day I can contemplate marriage again, trust me, I'll think of you"


And I said in jest "right..."

My girlfriends all tot tt was sweet, my divorced uncle who remarried 5yrs later said "you can probably take comfort he does see u as a permanant fixture in his life one way or another".

I love to see it as something really nice but the cynic is me wants to put that down because I believe it will leave me hanging too.
 

mum_of_2_girls

New Member
Hi Bubblepuffs,

Some views from 3 time married Donald Trump.

Interviewer : This is your 3rd marriage. What do you think of it?

Donald Trump: If she isn't so exceptional, I will not be doing it(marriage) again.

Despite experiencing messy divorces from previous marriages, Donald Trump still does marriage again.
 

bubblepuffs

New Member
Yeah I guess, nothing much I can do either........

Probably spend some time dating myself too. Haha ;)

To Albee - yeah I guess. Like the directors in my company - quite a bunch of them are divorced people. There are 2 groups - one adamant never to marry again, another group knows they want to do it again but just not now.

Interesting.
 

simpleman

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But seriously, beyond the need to provide legitimacy for the children out of the wedlock, marriage is NOT that important.

Of course for a young lady and with the pressure of the her family - it is understandable that she would not want to have a no-marriage relationship.

I have many friends - divorced and staying with GF for many years.. all are matured and absolutely happy...
 

kittenpie

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hey bubblepuffs, you seem like an interesting and outgoing person and you deserve to sit right in the middle of a great buffet of life. taste a little here and there and have lots of fun along the way. why bother about this 35yo man whose intentions (sincere or not) you cannot even be 100% sure of.

i have no idea whether your whole relationship was a scam based on your descriptions; it could be either ways. he could have been with you for the fun of the moment, he needed company, etc. or he could have liked you genuinely and deeply. none of this matters except that he is not able to make you happy.

but the more you devote mental bandwidth to him, the more this thing will REALLY turn out to be a scam. you can't have a scam without one party falling as a victim and you will become one if you give this relationship more time and thought than it needs.

i like Albee's first response to you, you should take it easy. from your long stories i can see that you like to think, think, reflect, think. why think so much, this is not WORK you know. just relax and have fun.
 

simpleman

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May,

Only young, interesting and outgoing person deserve to sit right in the middle of a great buffet?

ha ha..

I thought that everyone is entitled to that.. including me..
 

kittenpie

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and also, given your current level of maturity and exposure (24), perhaps you are not able to determine the true nature of the relationship right now.

when you grow older and undergo more of the playing field, you will accumulate the wisdom to ascertain, on retrospect, what really happened between you and this man. just treat this relationship as a learning experience and be positive about it. and positive means minus all the neuroses.

unless you caught a terrible STD from this person, or lost $ on him, then you would have been no worse for the wear. STD and $ are extreme examples, now what about TIME. this is back to the same point in my post above, you would really have incurred loss in terms of wasted Time, by still dwelling on this thing.
 

bubblepuffs

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> SM: Ooo that was what he said too. Oh wellz, doesn't make much of a difference at this point of situation I guess
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> May Ong: Hey thanks sweetcake ;) Yeah I like to dissert things mentally - maybe that's why I do mucho better at work haha. I'm trying to drive down the mental bandwidth too but somehow every other night I'm being haunted endlessly with dreams of him. I end up waking up feeling I don't know, down?

Ok la, he did made me pretty happy during the months I was with him - minus the 2-3 quarrels we had over small stuff I generally was really happy with him. Well until the point of his 2 mindedness came in again. There are times I tell myself if I just sat down and listen properly to his 2 mindedness thoughts (because he said those are thoughts and he just want me to know) - would things have changed? Would we still be together now?

Because he kept saying this is not a breakup call not a breakup call not a breakup call - he just want me to know he has thoughts running in his mind.

It's the kind of I don't know - like it was an unfinished story.

Yeah I need to stop harping on that I guess. Poison the mind.
 

kittenpie

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Well until the point of his 2 mindedness came in again. There are times I tell myself if I just sat down and listen properly to his 2 mindedness thoughts (because he said those are thoughts and he just want me to know) - would things have changed?

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hey bubbles, this shows that you are taking him too seriously. i wont take anyone seriously until he is able to commit himself to a stand and act accordingly. i may still hang out with him for a short while he indulges in being capricious, but i will keep an eye out for alternative company and stand by to leave for greener pastures at any time.

as for you, you take him seriously while he gets all busy swinging from one end to another. now
does it sound like a scam to you. a scam need not be intentional, but he could be subconsciously or unconsciously stringing you along. remember you made no demands on him as to marriage (your open policy) yet he still behaved in this manner. if this is not stringing along, whether or not with malice intended, tell me what is.

anyway your story is interesting lah, nice to read during a lunch break. you are not too long-winded lah, just that it shows that you care TOO much about this thing. keep us updated on Part 2 if any
 

simpleman

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thinking of which..

where is the best buffet for breakfast, lunch or dinner in SG?

I don't care about price..

Long time no good buffet liao..
 

bubblepuffs

New Member
No la not so extreme - in fact I think I gained a lot from being with him. Being introduced to new sports, new friends, new activities.

I guess at this point - losing his presence in my life is the painful part. It's like besides a BF, you pretty much lose your soul mate and good friend.

Doesn't help that I think he doesn't seemed to want to talk to me much either when he was the one who asked if we could still be friends and told me to call him at the lift lobby. I have issues hanging out with common friends too because they usually ask about him and it seemed no one knows about the split either.

I don't want to be the one spreading the announcement - it's just I don't know weird?

It still pricks me to think of what happened that night and the weirdest thing is during my alone moments in the night, sometimes I relive the whole breakup night again - I don't tear and cry for the things he tells me, I tear and cry for the things I say to him. Especially the part where I told him I just wish he could see what I see, and then I hope he can be happy.

It's weird I don't know why - it wasn't his "every decision in my brain tells me to call it off" that makes me want to tear. It's what I say that saddens me.

But no, till today I didn't regret a single word I said that night - I still wish him to be happy, something he should be searching within and not from anywhere else. I'm still glad I didn't lash out anything in state of disappointment and tears, something I would regret in future.

There are too many a nights where I find myself hanging out at my home balcony before I sleep and I find myself saying that I just hope he's happy and I hope I walk out of this smarter, better and stronger.

Emotional? Maybe. Or maybe it's my subconscious selfish thought of accumulating karma - wishing that someone on this planet will be happy, although he made me sad.

Of all my breakups, this is the only one I felt it wasn't the cleanest. Maybe that's why part of my thoughts still linger.

I guess I will give myself a little bit of time to sit down after the fall. I know I will pick myself up, I will and I can.

I guess I just need a little bit of time.
 

bubblepuffs

New Member
> May Ong - he did commit to a stand when he turned around in February and that was why I agreed on the relationship.

But he said when he went through his wardrobe the other day and came across his ex-wife's stuff, he asked himself is he ready to do it again.

And that was my source of frustration - make a decision and stick with it. No matter how hard it is.

And probably that's one part of my sadness - it was the disappointment in that, because I've always saw him to be better than that. And he was the one who constantly tells me - make a decision and stick with it.

He was the one who told me "Never say never".

Such irony it was never used it on himself. Hahahahahaha.

But at the end of the day - I still want him to be happy. Really from the bottom of my heart, I just want this man happy.

Which was why that night when I said "This is the final call eh?" and he kept quiet before saying "Every decision in my brain tells me to call it off." - I told him "I hope you are happy with the decision."

He looked up for a while and shook his head, and then roll his eyes - and then he said "I don't understand why you want to say that."

So I just replied "I hope you are happy."

Just in case, no it wasn't a sarcastic tone - I said it in a really calm way. Maybe because I went to the meetup with expectations that he might just call it off. Or maybe I was as well mentally drained at that point.

I re-iterated again when I reached my lift lobby - I really just want you to be happy.

Hopefully something gets in eh. Hahaha
 

kittenpie

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aiyo, bubbles ... no offense, but i think you are going off in the drama-mama direction ... when i read what you wrote the images that played through my head are like episodes from a taiwanese idol love drama ... are you sure you are not over-reacting .... haha ...

do you realise that he is just a man? and there are plenty of other nice men, interesting men and good men out there? if i were you, i would be so young, happy and carefree. i would be laughing as i come in and laughing as i go out. and it seems like you are a cheerful person, cause you pointed out that others have remarked so. if i were you, i can meet any man i want, i can even meet women if i want. you should be exhilarated by your freedom. if you feel oppressed by your absolute freedom, that's masochistic!

anyway, to ameliorate your current mood, i point out the following:

(1) you did the absolute right thing by leaving a man wants to break up with you. if you had done anything else, you would have compromised on your dignity. but you behaved with maturity beyond your years, well, be proud of yourself cause that is laudable.

(2) in some ways, he is lacking. from what you wrote, i see that there were times when he was moody, when his emotional baggage drags him down. and definitely, he is CAPRICIOUS. (personally i HATE CAPRICIOUS men. cause that is not manly, that's why)

then imagine meeting a young man, smart and having bright prospects, with the humour and light-heartedness of a twenty-something, who can relate to you even better, who in facts LOVES your cheerfulness, now, who is better, tell me.

(3) what if, in the worst case scenario, it was really a scam? here, you are lamenting and pouring out your woes, there, he is gloating about having scored a sweet young chick and wondering about his next target. well, since you voiced your uncertainty whether it was a scam, let's take it further from here and explore it in this direction. he could be a filthy 30 something on the rebound after divorce, looking to hit on a tender young thing. a man doesnt need to wear a lewd face or to have a certain sort of a look to be this way. he can present a very wholesome image, and even act decently most of the times, but that does not mean he cannot be a philanderer. your feelings could have been cheated, my friend.

(im not saying that he is like that, im just taking it in a hypothetical direction).

so in this case, your sadness at the breakup should be replaced by joy!

i dont know why bright young things like you should be unhappy for longer than necessary. by the way, how long has this troubled you? being sad for a while is ok, but dont let it bug you for more than a week ...
 

bubblepuffs

New Member
HAHAHAHHA I think so too!!

Okay maybe I put it in too drama a form - but to be honest, at the end of the day, i seriously only wants this person to be happy.

I kid you not.

And I'm not kidding about the part which night after night I have said out to that bunch of empty air out in the balcony - I hope he is happy, I really do.

And of course I hope I walk out of this smarter, better and stronger. I believe things happen for a reason - and for that reason, I like to know I came out a better person ready for whatever life throws at me thereafter.

No la only 2-3 weeks I think - can't really remember the exact date of it actually but yeah shouldn't be more than 3 weeks I think.

HAHAHA okie then too long liao! It's not supposed to be more than 1 week!

Aiyo the last point so sad la - rebound. Contemplated before actually. Hahaha and that was why I kicked off that 6 months window thingy as well - just to drag time a little to see if he would head out for someone else since I was making things inconvenient.

Yeah I didn't like the capricious part either - but whether that is his true self or it's just part of his wallowing - I don't know and I don't want to speculate.

Okie bright young thing needs to go find other bright young thing... LOL Thanks May Ong, you make me laugh. Hehe
 

mum_of_2_girls

New Member
Hi,

To love or Be loved?

One of my "evil" mum's lesson is "Let the guy loves you more. You better don't love the guy more than he loves you.
 

bubblepuffs

New Member
Hi albee,

Ah my mum said the same thing! :D I'm sure they make really good friends
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I guess I have to put it down...much as exterior wise I have...I think emotions wise, it will take a little while more I guess....

I think most pple wants to be loved la - but my mum always says for women - it's always better to have someone who loves you more.

Haiz
 

sgbabydoll

Active Member
"Well until the point of his 2 mindedness came in again. There are times I tell myself if I just sat down and listen properly to his 2 mindedness thoughts (because he said those are thoughts and he just want me to know) - would things have changed? Would we still be together now?"

As a divorced person myself, I could understand his uncertainty not of the partner but that of himself. It would benefit him to either not date for the time being or to date lightly.
 

bubblepuffs

New Member
> doLL: Thanks for the insight. At the initial stage, to be honest I kept wondering is it because I wasn't understanding enough. My divorced uncle told me - it's him, not you. He needs to sort himself out. So I guess...oh well. Nevermind, I'm sure there are better stuff out there eh?
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Thanks lady, you have been giving me insightful stuff.

> Scope Guy: Thanks for still popping in despite the long non-progressing grandma story. Hahaha I'm really focused on work and my exams in 5 months time now. So it helps.

End result is I'm now in the extremely great book of my Vice President and Directors ;) Which means I get the good big projects. Hahaha

Guess I lost on love but gained something else.
 

scope_guy

New Member
Hi Bubblepuffs,

No thanks. When I sense a good girl stuck, I'd try to do something as when I sense a clown, I'd try to get entertainment.

You are not a bad lover-to-be, you deserve to pick your card again. Take this experience well, feel love for love sake is better than nil experience. But... from your basis, please find your real prince, and you'd have the most envious romance story of a lifetime.

I was hoping hence for you to jump out of the loop... leading you away from the main topic.

LOL~ There is no such thing as loss or gain in relationship. If that guy is your One, your loss will also be his loss.

Hopefully, the next time you appear here... is to share how madly truly deeply in love with the prince... These women... they need a good example to market them the right things. People such as Doll, Junkie, etc will need to learn what love and relationship truly is.

This will be your biggest project for this forum. LOL~ Ciao.
 

bubblepuffs

New Member
Hi Scope Guy,

I think DoLL is offering her perspective as someone who once divorced before
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That helps a lot.

Thanks for believing I'm not a bad lover-to-be..hahaha. As of now, I'll just continue focus with my career and completing those exams that I need to do. Focusing on what I have and can control at hand is more important I guess ;-)

Good to know I still have plenty of opportunities knocking on the door hahahaha. But now I'll just hang around la, need some time to recover. LOL

AH usually sharing good things becomes very jinxed one leh. LOL
 

sgbabydoll

Active Member
"AH usually sharing good things becomes very jinxed one leh. LOL"

Hey, this reminds me of the practice of no breathing a word about pregnancy until the first trimester is over lol. Perhaps it's better to keep a new relationship under wraps until it stabilises. My love life remains very private even though it is stable.

One of my colleagues is having an office romance. I advised her to lie low when she asked me if she should "announce" it (actually, I don't know why must announce to other colleagues as it doesn't add to one's career achievement). Now that the four-month old relationship is rocky, she's at least thankful that I am the only colleague who knows about it. There will be no public scrutiny if she were to break up with him.
 

newhope

New Member
never date a divorced man. they have a different mindset, and they will never love u as much as their ex-wife...
 

bubblepuffs

New Member
> doLL: HAHA yeah, I don't know I always think this are private stuff so it's better not to make it big and known. Well unless it's SUPER SUPER stable.

Previously, when we went out, he was very adamant about making it public while I was the one who dodged and dodged that annoucement because well I just don't have the habit of doing that (even in my past relationships.) - I only will brielfy mention if asked.

And I think he got offended before because he thought I mind him being a divorcee and didn't want anything to do with him :S

Wah if I mind, I will go out with you meh?

> Sad_Gal: I never believe in generalizing
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I have 2 uncles who remarried and they are living well too. Sometimes they make a wrong choice in the first and learn their lesson in the second.
 

scope_guy

New Member
Bubblepuffs,

Many here are divorced without understanding the lessons...

Whatever it is, they ain't my problem because... they ain't my type. I have no desire for dim-witted, immature and incorrigible women because it's impossible to expect pure love from them, and there won't be romance, and... I might as well go for beautiful hookers.

Let me be frank with you... these women will 'gamble' again. And they will get the same risks, hate men... and NEVER once understand that if they worth nothing, don't expect what they ain't worthing.

They don't believe in true love, they ain't offering pure love, and they expect love from men...

LOL~

LOL~

LOL~

Wait till they expire in 40yo~50yo... These people... hopeless cases. I sound very nasty... but they are more nasty to themselves. LOL~

I like women like you... you got the basis of a great romance story of the lifetime. So be sure to 'hunt' properly. Don't settle for any match other than that made in Heaven.

All the best.
 

sgbabydoll

Active Member
Unlike Sad Gal, I prefer to date separated/divorced/widowed men compared to single men, for their different mindset in relationship. Don't quite fancy a structured relationship but prefer to explore possibilities together. Realised this after being in relationship with two single men post-divorce.
 

simpleman

Active Member
sad_gal,


"never date a divorced man. they have a different mindset, and they will never love u as much as their ex-wife..."


What type of warped mindset do you have? Might as well don't date..

Or date someone who never dated before.. otherwise they may love their ex more than you?

And also date an orphan with no relatives, otherwise they will love his parents or relatives more than you?

Better still, date yourself.. you sure that you can love yourself more than you love other people.
 


bubblepuffs

New Member
He called me last night but I missed it. I texted him this morning if he had called.

He responded with a "Yup I did. Sandra (my good friend) called me to tell me to give you a call".

I was like "Huh????"

He went "Yup, Sandra."

I totally called my friend up and WTH her. She had good intentions I guess so I didn't want to be harsh on her.

AIYO.

So much for wanting to move on. Bleah. Anyway I didn't respond thereafter.

> Scope Guy: Thanks for your faith in me man...I appreciate it. I really do. Thanks.
 

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