Aircon - System 3 non inverter Mitsubishi vs Toshiba
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hi loveMe... i heard frm my friend who use natur-al co-l, they gave him the wrong compressor. A smaller compressor with lower capacity. And also they didnt cover his pipes with rubber. And the piping flow backwards at part of the house. *argh* ... not sure if they are really tat good. Or my fren is really that suay.
huh?
.... you can ask them to come down and check. Maybe you didnt use the approriate mode for cooling.. In any case, check your pipes.. and see that there is no leakage etc.
BTW, what temp u put it to? have you check the temp. after hours of switching on?
Normally, shld be able to feel
.... you can ask them to come down and check. Maybe you didnt use the approriate mode for cooling.. In any case, check your pipes.. and see that there is no leakage etc.
BTW, what temp u put it to? have you check the temp. after hours of switching on?
Normally, shld be able to feel
Hi
Maybe u can check if the compressor is running and check if the trunking has any condensation. If nothing wrong with the above and no matter what mode or how low u tune it to n it is still not cold after 30mins then i think u better ask them to come down n check. Maybe during installation the pipe is choke or bended too much. OR can it be they forget to charge in refrigerant? You can call the installer to come down n check. how long have u buy it?
Maybe like what ridz say you room is bigger so it become undersize and u will only get cooling effect when u stand near the fan coil outlet other places in the rm is only normal but better then no air con on.
Maybe u can check if the compressor is running and check if the trunking has any condensation. If nothing wrong with the above and no matter what mode or how low u tune it to n it is still not cold after 30mins then i think u better ask them to come down n check. Maybe during installation the pipe is choke or bended too much. OR can it be they forget to charge in refrigerant? You can call the installer to come down n check. how long have u buy it?
Maybe like what ridz say you room is bigger so it become undersize and u will only get cooling effect when u stand near the fan coil outlet other places in the rm is only normal but better then no air con on.
whiteivory
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Hi LoveME, Please pm me the contact for Nxx Cxx too. thanks.
Hi JGal, I've tried setting at 22degree & 16 degree Super Cool ... but still not cool. I've asked the Mitsubishi to come down twice but they say nothing wrong with their aircon. The aircon company says the pipe installation is alrite too. My relative came over to my place n they dun find the air-con cold. Seem like it might take quite awhile to resolve this issue with Mit n the aircon company. Thks
Hi Ridz, I m also wondering whther it's undersize for my MBR which is a new home. Do u know where i can purchase a room thermometer ...will try doing a test on it. Thks
Hi Ridz, I m also wondering whther it's undersize for my MBR which is a new home. Do u know where i can purchase a room thermometer ...will try doing a test on it. Thks
yeah.. you let us know the size of your mbr ? .. normally.. 9000btu will do for mbr.. unless your is super big.. did you hack any walls to enlarge the room?
if it's because of the size of blower, you need to ask the aircon company to help you change for free esp if they are the ones that recommended you the configuration.
if it's because of the size of blower, you need to ask the aircon company to help you change for free esp if they are the ones that recommended you the configuration.
soapwater16
Member
hi anyone,
Can explain how to calculate the BTU? Thanks
Can explain how to calculate the BTU? Thanks
the easiest is as follows
For a quick estimation, we can use the rule of thumb:
Area (Length x Width) X 65 = BTU/hr
E.g. Room size 10ft X 10ft = 100ft2 X 65 = 6,500BTU/hr.
if its in metres
you take Length (in M) x Breadth (in M) then multiply by 0.2 , then you mutiply by 3412 then you will get the required BTU but this is the basic calculating
For a quick estimation, we can use the rule of thumb:
Area (Length x Width) X 65 = BTU/hr
E.g. Room size 10ft X 10ft = 100ft2 X 65 = 6,500BTU/hr.
if its in metres
you take Length (in M) x Breadth (in M) then multiply by 0.2 , then you mutiply by 3412 then you will get the required BTU but this is the basic calculating
Hi,
Can anyone comment is this model ok? reliable? choosing non-invertor as seldom on the aircon.
Panasonic CU-3C20EKH / 3 X CS-C9EKZW
CU-3C20EKH (QTY:1 )
Category : System 3
Description : 2.5 hp Condenser Unit
Is suitable for HDB : Yes
Capacity BTU/hr : 20500
Cooling Kw : 6Kw
Power Supply : 230V / 1ph / 50 Hz
Running Current : 8.3A
Power Consumption : 1.92Kw
Dimension : 651H X 893W X 345D
Weight : 66Kg
Liquid Pipe Size : 6.35mm
Gas Pipe Size : 9.52mm
Compressor Type : Rotary
Refrigerant : R22
CS-C9EKZW (QTY:3 )
Category : Wall Mounted
Description : 1 hp Condenser Unit
Is suitable for HDB : Yes
Capacity BTU/hr : 9210
Power Supply : 240V
Running Current : 3.4A
Power Consumption : 785W
Dimension : 280H X 799W X 183D
Weight : 8Kg
Control : Wireless Remote Control
EER : 11.7
Can anyone comment is this model ok? reliable? choosing non-invertor as seldom on the aircon.
Panasonic CU-3C20EKH / 3 X CS-C9EKZW
CU-3C20EKH (QTY:1 )
Category : System 3
Description : 2.5 hp Condenser Unit
Is suitable for HDB : Yes
Capacity BTU/hr : 20500
Cooling Kw : 6Kw
Power Supply : 230V / 1ph / 50 Hz
Running Current : 8.3A
Power Consumption : 1.92Kw
Dimension : 651H X 893W X 345D
Weight : 66Kg
Liquid Pipe Size : 6.35mm
Gas Pipe Size : 9.52mm
Compressor Type : Rotary
Refrigerant : R22
CS-C9EKZW (QTY:3 )
Category : Wall Mounted
Description : 1 hp Condenser Unit
Is suitable for HDB : Yes
Capacity BTU/hr : 9210
Power Supply : 240V
Running Current : 3.4A
Power Consumption : 785W
Dimension : 280H X 799W X 183D
Weight : 8Kg
Control : Wireless Remote Control
EER : 11.7
Hi Ridz, JGal n Summerlce
Mitsubishi and G*in C*ty came down for a 2nd joint inspection on Sat, they both say nothing wrong with the aricon. The Mit pple did now want to discuss as in how long does it take for the air-con to cool ...and says whther airc-con can be cold is a questionable thing. At times, it might take longer or even 4 hrs to cool the room... wonder why they r selling their energy saving brands if it takes so long to cool a rm. Will pursue to cancel the Extended Warranty and Service contract with G*in C*ty as for a airc-con to function in that manner is totally unacceptable.
Mitsubishi and G*in C*ty came down for a 2nd joint inspection on Sat, they both say nothing wrong with the aricon. The Mit pple did now want to discuss as in how long does it take for the air-con to cool ...and says whther airc-con can be cold is a questionable thing. At times, it might take longer or even 4 hrs to cool the room... wonder why they r selling their energy saving brands if it takes so long to cool a rm. Will pursue to cancel the Extended Warranty and Service contract with G*in C*ty as for a airc-con to function in that manner is totally unacceptable.
wha liao they told u that? say sometimes longer as in 4hrs? u never tell them they crazy or what of coz we dont expect them to cool in like 5 secs lar but 10mins i think is long enough already.....unless we are in a desert. Call ur salesman and complain can?
Heng i never get their service contract.
Hi janice,
I think i did consider the model u are look at too, cant remember which one. It depends on u what u are looking for. coz no matter how good the aircon is i think ultimately is the installation man's skill good or not. Thats what i realise after my aircon being install. I think they should have a better installation of trunking methods.
Heng i never get their service contract.
Hi janice,
I think i did consider the model u are look at too, cant remember which one. It depends on u what u are looking for. coz no matter how good the aircon is i think ultimately is the installation man's skill good or not. Thats what i realise after my aircon being install. I think they should have a better installation of trunking methods.
Hi Peppy2811, sad to hear your bad encounters.
Last weekend i nearly bought a mit heavy industry sys 3 inverter (promoted by a guy from ga_nc_ty), is yours also mit heavy industry or the common mit electric?
but in the end, we decided to buy back our original planned toshiba sys 3 inverter that is made in japan.
Last weekend i nearly bought a mit heavy industry sys 3 inverter (promoted by a guy from ga_nc_ty), is yours also mit heavy industry or the common mit electric?
but in the end, we decided to buy back our original planned toshiba sys 3 inverter that is made in japan.
hi all,
sorry to reply so late.. been a little caught up with assignments and projects as well as marking!!!
anyway yeah mitsubishi heavy industries are manufactured in china from what i gather.. not too sure very true or not. The mitsubishi electric now are all made in thailand. even compressors some new batches come from thai.. again i dare not make confirmations.
But yeah mitsubishi would be better bet. Or daikin i personally am for daikin in anyway they truly are the specialist in air conditioning.
as for your case pebby yeah they gave you undersized blower for that room.
IT IS true that a room generally takes about 3-4 hour to properly cool down just that typical singapore bedrooms are in the range that requires around 7000btu to slighlt below 9k btu to cool (for 2,3,4 room flats) hence the blower is able to cool the room faster cos its rated 9k but need to cool an area which with 7-8k is enough. thats the reason why we take it for granted that cooling in a bigger space is the same. that can be said true if the blower is significantly bigger like if you take a 12k to cool a 10k cooling needs yes. if its about the same like 12k blower cooling a 11.5k cooling need. then it will definitely need 3-4 hours to cool down.
But yeah it could be an option for you to swap brand of another air con in that case a daikin would be good. but i think you need to top up cos daikin prices are significantly higher by several hundreds.
but then again gain city i doubt they would give you a change of brand. maybe a change in blower size would be possible but to another brand.. you gotta check the terms of service that contract. then see if there is any clause that you can change or a loophole anywhere in the contract that gives you the authority to rescind it or some form of resolution.
whatever the case is i wish you the best yeah and let us know of the outcome okie?>
sorry to reply so late.. been a little caught up with assignments and projects as well as marking!!!
anyway yeah mitsubishi heavy industries are manufactured in china from what i gather.. not too sure very true or not. The mitsubishi electric now are all made in thailand. even compressors some new batches come from thai.. again i dare not make confirmations.
But yeah mitsubishi would be better bet. Or daikin i personally am for daikin in anyway they truly are the specialist in air conditioning.
as for your case pebby yeah they gave you undersized blower for that room.
IT IS true that a room generally takes about 3-4 hour to properly cool down just that typical singapore bedrooms are in the range that requires around 7000btu to slighlt below 9k btu to cool (for 2,3,4 room flats) hence the blower is able to cool the room faster cos its rated 9k but need to cool an area which with 7-8k is enough. thats the reason why we take it for granted that cooling in a bigger space is the same. that can be said true if the blower is significantly bigger like if you take a 12k to cool a 10k cooling needs yes. if its about the same like 12k blower cooling a 11.5k cooling need. then it will definitely need 3-4 hours to cool down.
But yeah it could be an option for you to swap brand of another air con in that case a daikin would be good. but i think you need to top up cos daikin prices are significantly higher by several hundreds.
but then again gain city i doubt they would give you a change of brand. maybe a change in blower size would be possible but to another brand.. you gotta check the terms of service that contract. then see if there is any clause that you can change or a loophole anywhere in the contract that gives you the authority to rescind it or some form of resolution.
whatever the case is i wish you the best yeah and let us know of the outcome okie?>
I thought Toshiba n carrier are the same. I heard from the salesman that the parts are the same coz carrier bought over by toshiba, thats why the casing is almost the same. Really Toshiba from Japan? Didnt hear about this when we source for air con.
Now every company wants to cost down, and many items are from china or thailand. I still feel that thailand will be safer as they are ealier then china. Many products from china they dont bother much about quality only price.
Initially we wanted to get a panasonic also..anyway the mitsubishi and panasonic sys 3 price are not very much different.
like what ridz says you have to check the spec properly...to c if it suits ur needs, cannot fully trust a salesman.
I dont think they will change the air con for u to another brand, most probably they can change the compressor to a higher capacity one.
Now every company wants to cost down, and many items are from china or thailand. I still feel that thailand will be safer as they are ealier then china. Many products from china they dont bother much about quality only price.
Initially we wanted to get a panasonic also..anyway the mitsubishi and panasonic sys 3 price are not very much different.
like what ridz says you have to check the spec properly...to c if it suits ur needs, cannot fully trust a salesman.
I dont think they will change the air con for u to another brand, most probably they can change the compressor to a higher capacity one.
yeah.. summerice .. toshiba and carrier is the same.. cos' i register my toshiba warranty under carrier website..
When the toshiba aircon arrive.. all the blowers were stated on the boxes to be shipped frm thailand.. However, i confirmed with my aircon man that the core is frm japan. If they bluff me.. i also cannot verify .. ha ha ha
When the toshiba aircon arrive.. all the blowers were stated on the boxes to be shipped frm thailand.. However, i confirmed with my aircon man that the core is frm japan. If they bluff me.. i also cannot verify .. ha ha ha
i think mine was the earlier stock.. but i am aware that the blowers are not japan-made.
Anyway, the aircon saleperson is quite responsive for queries etc.. that day i turn the temp too low.. 18 degrees and there was some 'condensing' in the toilet.. he also come down promptly to help me check it it is a leak..
So far... quite happy with his service.
Anyway, the aircon saleperson is quite responsive for queries etc.. that day i turn the temp too low.. 18 degrees and there was some 'condensing' in the toilet.. he also come down promptly to help me check it it is a leak..
So far... quite happy with his service.
hi fiona, i just bought toshiba non-inverter system 3 at All-Best, IMM. I can get you the sales agent that we got our aircond. He is quite a nice guy. My colleagues also bought his aircond there..
system 3 - non inverter for abt $1.6k if not mistaken.. i haven't install yet..since i have not shifted in.
system 3 - non inverter for abt $1.6k if not mistaken.. i haven't install yet..since i have not shifted in.
summerholiday
Member
how much now for sys 3 non-invertor mitsubishi
danieltiger
New Member
hi summer,
i bought at all best at $1,875 (w/o bracket cause got aircon ledge). had first installation last week. 2nd installation will be next week
i bought at all best at $1,875 (w/o bracket cause got aircon ledge). had first installation last week. 2nd installation will be next week
summerholiday
Member
my id charghe 2199 bargain to 2150, my friend charge 2050 with all pipings chnge.. somermore, there's no way to tell piping ggod or no good lo
only by weighing only
bith price with piping
only by weighing only
bith price with piping
berries5588
New Member
Hi all...which brand system 3 would u recommend?
Some say daikin, mitsubishi, toshiba...
there're so many..i dunno which to pick!
Some say daikin, mitsubishi, toshiba...
there're so many..i dunno which to pick!